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post Apr 28 2014, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(~min~ @ Apr 28 2014, 02:31 AM)
then rtz mid creep block also cant use now. because creep will stop instead of pathing around
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Blocking creeps and repathing creeps are entirely different la
rtz block still works. the creeps will just repath to the shorter route on the SAME LANE.
total blocks like es fissure will reroute them via another path since the entire lane is inaccessible... doh.gif
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post Apr 28 2014, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(~min~ @ Apr 28 2014, 12:07 PM)
basically its the same right?

when es block, there still other route that creep can take right?

same goes for cog block
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lol you are always going off topic, even when its you who asked the questions.
Really dont know what you are asking anymore.
QUOTE(~min~ @ Apr 28 2014, 02:31 AM)
then rtz mid creep block also cant use now. because creep will stop instead of pathing around
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first you asked this question rite?
So, by your logic, if we use RTZ block, the creeps will STOP and wont move behind your hero, right?

No.
RTZ Block is just a re-path, letting the creeps decide the shortest route to take.
This makes them move to the RIGHT OF THE RADIANT TOWER when they spawn, so you can block them better.
Otherwise, they will split like usual.

They will still find a path on the SAME LANE.

QUOTE(~min~ @ Apr 28 2014, 12:07 PM)
basically its the same right?

when es block, there still other route that creep can take right?

same goes for cog block
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No, they are not the same.
Again, re-path and blocking path is entirely different.

ES fissure block abuse puts all of them in the trees if done right, or you can even ancient them.
Same thing for CW cogs (deploy, remove one cog near trees, they all go inside that open cogs into trees)

Now with the NEW PATCH, even if you fissure or cog block them, they will not re-path anymore.
They will stay on the SAME LANE and wait for the fissure/cog to disappear.

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post Apr 28 2014, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Apr 28 2014, 07:55 PM)
he ask the question and answer question make me confuse also
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Normal.
Have a teaching job, so it benefits all when someone explains it clearly, even if there is language proficiency not that good.
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post Apr 28 2014, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 28 2014, 09:15 PM)
unsure.gif

let's make this into guild shirt  unsure.gif
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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if i wanted to have a snail as a mascot...
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post Apr 28 2014, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Apr 28 2014, 09:39 PM)
RM200?? waaa
i wan tht doll only rest tak interest
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oso just want the doll. haizzzzzz
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post Apr 29 2014, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Celldweller @ Apr 29 2014, 09:51 AM)
Doll > courier  nod.gif
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QUOTE(tarvalslain87 @ Apr 29 2014, 09:50 AM)
If the opponent kept unpause without even waiting for at least 5-10 mins then Ill rage. If pass that time and your friend cant even get on then i think its not fair to keep pause and ask your opponent to wait for him to reconnect. 

Ill do the same thing for my opponent as well.
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Usually, the unwritten rule or guideline is no pausing in middle of fights.
Its just poor taste and lots of split decision making can be made, even if someone dc-ed.

Just pause after the end of the match, despite losing or winning, don't matter.
Its only proper etiquette, but who am I to wish for this in SEA...

Those who keep unpausing when reconnecting should die in a ball of fire.
I know how crappy Steam can be, suddenly crash or dc for no reason.
But recently, most people have been pausing when i or others crash or dc so I think this habit has become common edi, fortunately.
And when I even have to pause for an enemy who dc, while their team is like okay with it... doh.gif

QUOTE(sniperz @ Apr 29 2014, 10:55 AM)
http://imgur.com/r/DotA2/cdpelmu

What some guys do not KNOW is that MMR is still a flawed system? I think I blasted some crooked forumers with so called 4K MMR and now they're gone!

Lose 10 games still get 4.6K close enough? biggrin.gif
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If you just got that from another source, please read the reddit comments and discussion there explaining how its possible.
MMR is not that flawed. Has its bad points in providing mean distribution of MMR but otherwise, ranks up the average mean value of points than median.
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post Apr 29 2014, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(dps404 @ Apr 29 2014, 06:14 PM)
This is definitely the way to go IMO but unfortunately some teams really do abuse this 'pause for rc' privilege by pausing during team fights, only to turn the table against the initiating team since they are no longer caught off guard and are able to pre-planned their subsequent moves.

It's even more frustrating when your team is on the losing end and had to rely on these hit and run turtle strategy.
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Its just luck and infrastructure in the end.
If you know you have shit ping or connection, why bother connecting and give other users and yourself a bad time...
Better go fap or play that void farming app game if you really wanna smack creeps
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post Apr 29 2014, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(dps404 @ Apr 29 2014, 06:25 PM)
that's where the abuse part comes in.
since the dc is intentional.
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lol cant do anything about that.
Pause system is still a system, and humans exist to bend, abuse and ultimately break them.

thats just how the dice rolls laugh.gif
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post Apr 29 2014, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(sniperz @ Apr 29 2014, 07:04 PM)
I never condemn the fact since I'm close to 4K MMR and my account trolled a lot of games with Pinoy before MMR was implemented.

I beat a few 5K MMR's with my 4K MMR competitive friends. Just to see that the level is fragile if they don't have tournament experiences. Vice versa.

brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif

See players with 7K MMR? I think they'll still be lack of form in LAN tournaments because? They lack real face-to-face competitive FEELS / AURA.

It ranks but as you see from the photo. It clearly shows there are FLAWS. I don't see many 4K MMR succeed too.

Lots of PINOYS had 4K MMR and they are disrupting the gameplay. You have to understand it is a system but the FLAWS is huge if you blend in SEA players , the regions , demographic and vice versa. The unlucky pros will keep dropping their MMRs.

Trust me. I saw my friend with Party MMR 5K and keep droping until 4.7K and up to 4.9K and again dropping around. Why? When they have no full teams, they gonna play with publics they don't know.

I won't say much since I know our best teams in Malaysia namely Orange or Titan etc. Their MMR is lower than many here. So why the fuss? They won't recruit people who don't have RAW MATERIALS (RAW PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE) is what most high MMR players (4K or 5K) lack.
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Perasannya. I never talked about you but so fast cerita kat I your life story lol.
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post Apr 29 2014, 11:32 PM

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We're not the ones who came and told us their "Ranked Adventures".
If he wants to share, he's free to do so, but don't see the point he's trying to make.

Trying to prove he's better than his mmr?
Saying mmr is flawed?
6k and 4k is same?
pinoy is crap?
welcome to doto la, SEA edition lol
all daily occurrences we oso find, nothing special really.

Never said or mention about him, but suddenly "condemn the fact" about what exactly, no idea.
But mmr is mmr, and dont see glamour in a few points. Too little time to play these days, haiz...

but if u want real ranked adventures brows.gif


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post Apr 29 2014, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:40 PM)
this video make me wan learn doom scare lose game pulak
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EE's doom damn legit.
Remember watching his stream.
EXP/min was 666. Our faces when we saw it... shocking.gif
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post Apr 30 2014, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(sniperz @ Apr 30 2014, 12:02 AM)
I'm not proving. It's just the fact. Look at the photo I show. You lose 10 calibrated games. You still get 4.6K+++ It's a matter of luck sometimes. People want to show you the flaw. It is good. I never say it's not, just some players can get it easy due to the population , demographic. Like you enter a server full of weak players (not to mention country). You get lots of wins.

More to come. Titan them? Oh I don't need to tell you though haha. I have enough connections with some of them. Compared forumers with 4K MMR and still gonna get complained. Can't lead vice versa... Cheers smile.gif
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So what la photo. You showing photo without context. Win liao lor.
Show obama with gun photo. Guess he supports 2nd amendment huh.

First comment in reddit edi explain possibility mmr working as it should.
Asked you to go read, but you're the talkalot type, so i put the link. http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/247...ating_got_4600/
You believe what you want, it works for you then. Win lor.
Wanna prove your point, discuss with reddit. Fight and win lor.

I'm relatively new here, but you come in here gungho, wanna tell us you got connections with titan, 4k mmr, etc.
What you want us to say? Can't even hold a nice convo with you for 1 post, expect to be treated the same?
Don't know why you still here in "4k mmr forum" when you clearly don't like anyone here, and vice versa.
You seem to be okay guy, obviously have a good head on, pretty educated with some networking in pro scene, but nothing to fix that ego...
I want to have nice discussion with you, but ego too big to not have "mmr" in any of your posts.
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QUOTE(BunsS @ Apr 30 2014, 12:54 AM)
nothing from him is educated, wait until he pm and rage u. i already immune liao.

you see, it is sad to be him, stuck at 2k MMR, syiok sendiri with some "big" imaginary cable with the pro scene and always behave like a kid who lost his candy when argue about MMR.

so, at here we tolerate a bit la, give this kid post his veteran tourney story and legends of him winning some rm10-50 in the last decade, listen to him, and support him a bit so that he can climb to 2.5kMMR, give some tissue to him if he cried and lost a game, because life must be very hard for him, to convince people how bad and flawed MMR is and at the same time need to try so hard to win games.

Give the boy some credit, so that he can move forward and everyone will be happy.  wub.gif
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boy needs to grow up then. need some moonmeander

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QUOTE(whoopa @ Apr 30 2014, 06:23 PM)
Wtf newbee so power meh
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Very shaky la. Supposedly superstar team to rival DK, but I really hope they can show their "all-star" valor when push comes to shove.
Titan was deserved i think, don't think any other stable SEA teams. And even tho mushi is out of former orange squad, kyxy and gang did perform pretty well.
Still remember Net with visage-mirana-arrow block saves and quad-gargoyle stun into dk wipe.
They need to bring out, not their A, but SSS+ games for the holy grail.

HYPE TRAINNNNNNNN
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QUOTE(v1n0d @ Apr 30 2014, 09:14 PM)
A patch is expected before the ESL games tonight.
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Summit, ESL and D2CL edi banned VS from pick in CM.
Will continue if no hotfix by tonight.
Alot of games going on everyday, yo.

QUOTE(v1n0d @ Apr 30 2014, 08:46 PM)
Arrow's good, but there's a massive skill gap between their members. I've seen them play myself in local tourneys, and only 1-2 of them are international material. Personally, on a good day I think they'd give Titan a run for their money, but TI invitations are all about consistency, and Arrow just hasn't done that yet.
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Yes, I think this is the criteria everyone overlooked.
It's not about mmr, trophys, winnnings, players, etc
It is about consistency. Don't think I could have put it better than myself.

Look at fnatic, cheesus.
I really like them for staying true together, and their invite is definitely due to that stability.
Really hope they can get out of that HoN trash cycle and win a big one.
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QUOTE(-Torrz @ Apr 30 2014, 11:18 PM)
anyone know which abaddon item has the custom ability icon gem or w/e thats attached to it? or the custom abilty icon is possible only if you equip the FULL set?

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isnt that the new abaddon set by [A]?
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post May 1 2014, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(-Torrz @ May 1 2014, 02:00 AM)
yes. dont feel like getting the whole thing, wanna know which item is tied to the custom ability icons tongue.gif unless it's tied to the FULL set  unsure.gif
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might be whole set, but I'm not sure since I've never gotten any icon/arcana changing item in my bp.
pretty sure it operates similar to pudge custom icon set, whole set or just 1 item.
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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ May 1 2014, 12:38 PM)
pudge item is the head~
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Then i guess it applies to the abaddon.
might be the one itme that makes him unique, so it could be mount or his nazgul head
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QUOTE(Arcisal @ May 1 2014, 11:05 PM)
Okay, I just DCed from a game and couldn't reconnect. After the first try, I didn't even have the option of reconnecting and I'm assuming the game is lost and not recorded. What the f*** SEA server. This was a game I was clearly going to win.

Anybody else got that problem?

And holy shit, Ursa can solo Roshan at level 4 now.
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tot lvl 3 already can.
reddit been biatching about this from 1hour into the patch lol

QUOTE(BunsS @ May 1 2014, 10:06 PM)
http://dotabuff.com/matches/637201120

play with 阿福, top 3 in leaderboad SEA region 6.1kmmr

gg lose.
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blink gaming, with 7 meeps.
sweet

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depending on the price, you might as well buy the the entire set for everything lol

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