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TSb3nl3y
post Mar 24 2014, 09:12 PM, updated 12y ago

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hello everyone! here's a few questions

1) I'm a D license holder (without P. I'm 26 already) and would like to take a B2 license for motorbikes. Do i have to take any theory and test again? How much would it be if i take my B2 now? is it a one day process?

2) I'm recently into naked bikes and found that there's a few 250cc bikes that is DAMN INTERESTING. Any recommendation? My budget is below 10k if possible. (plus minus around there)

3) I've shortlisted a few. Any comments on the bikes below/other recommendation? Here's a few i'll list down.
a) megelli 250sr
b) YSM T2
c) Demak DZM 200
d) Keeway RKV200g
e) Nimota CK9

4) Last question. I'm quite noob la in bikes so i was just wondering what determines the tyre width size? Big tyre bikes looks cool tho!


The reasons I will be getting a bike will be more like a weekend drive or "night drive a.k.a yumcha" only. No daily use intended.




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post Mar 24 2014, 10:01 PM

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why no consider KTM duke 200

looks very good with that 170 tyre and coupled with that front upside down telescopic fork, handling not bad

and KTM is quite reliable...

NEVER BUY megelli unless u're seeking for trouble

SYM T2 is too expensive for what they offer on the bike

regarding your license you dont need to take the test but you have to attend the boring class for your bike L license, after you get your L, you need to wait 1 month in order to take the test

wait a while for naza to rebadge the hyosung exiv 250 and see what price tag they put.. their prices are always competitive

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post Mar 24 2014, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(Manlet @ Mar 24 2014, 10:01 PM)
why no consider KTM duke 200

looks very good with that 170 tyre and coupled with that front upside down telescopic fork, handling not bad

and KTM is quite reliable...

NEVER BUY megelli unless u're seeking for trouble

SYM T2 is too expensive for what they offer on the bike

regarding your license you dont need to take the test but you have to attend the boring class for your bike L license, after you get your L, you need to wait 1 month in order to take the test

wait a while for naza to rebadge the hyosung exiv 250 and see what price tag they put.. their prices are always competitive
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yea duke 200 should be in my list too. in terms of performance/maintenance and resell value, is duke better than hyosung? in ur opinion is it worth waiting?
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post Mar 24 2014, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(b3nl3y @ Mar 24 2014, 10:22 PM)
yea duke 200 should be in my list too. in terms of performance/maintenance and resell value, is duke better than hyosung? in ur opinion is it worth waiting?
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they announced it in india and say its to rival duke 200 biggrin.gif with better power output and cheaper pricing... well that was in india.. malaysia dont know yet.. but since Naza decided to CKD the bike, it will be cheap for sure rclxms.gif duke resale value is better than hyosung.... quality also should be better hmm.gif

basically what hyosung offer is almost the same with duke but with a cheaper price, the trade off is resale and QC issue laugh.gif
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post Mar 24 2014, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(b3nl3y @ Mar 24 2014, 10:22 PM)
yea duke 200 should be in my list too. in terms of performance/maintenance and resell value, is duke better than hyosung? in ur opinion is it worth waiting?
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U need to stretch ur budget if u wan to include duke 200
If within ur budget list , I think the dzm 200 will fit perfectly (the side led looks awesome)
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post Mar 24 2014, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(Manlet @ Mar 24 2014, 10:25 PM)
they announced it in india and say its to rival duke 200 biggrin.gif  with better power output and cheaper pricing... well that was in india.. malaysia dont know yet.. but since Naza decided to CKD the bike, it will be cheap for sure  rclxms.gif  duke resale value is better than hyosung.... quality also should be better  hmm.gif

basically what hyosung offer is almost the same with duke but with a cheaper price, the trade off is resale and QC issue  laugh.gif
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that bike actually looks pretty awesome. but the small little exhaust being at the bottom?? thats a bit weird hahaha.....
damn i wonder when naza will have this in malaysia. anyway how much would a 170tyre cost? basically just changing of tyre no upgrade of rims needed right?
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post Mar 24 2014, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(b3nl3y @ Mar 24 2014, 10:43 PM)
that bike actually looks pretty awesome. but the small little exhaust being at the bottom?? thats a bit weird hahaha.....
damn i wonder when naza will have this in malaysia. anyway how much would a 170tyre cost? basically just changing of tyre no upgrade of rims needed right?
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yep stock rims on ktm 200 can hold 170 tyres... that little exhaust at the btm been adopted by alot of bike.. even the infamous ducati 1199 haha ... by reducing the length of exhaust system bike can be lighter ... and some mechanical advantage i dont understand tongue.gif something about lower bike so better geometry

the new rebadge hyosung should be coming soon someone went to naza factory and saw the parts
http://ahlek76.blogspot.com/2014/02/full-s...ml#comment-form

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post Mar 24 2014, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(Manlet @ Mar 24 2014, 10:52 PM)
yep stock rims on ktm 200 can hold 170 tyres... that little exhaust at the btm been adopted by alot of bike.. even the infamous ducati 1199 haha ... by reducing the length of exhaust system bike can be lighter ... and some mechanical advantage i dont understand tongue.gif  something about lower bike so better geometry

the new rebadge hyosung should be coming soon someone went to naza factory and saw the parts
http://ahlek76.blogspot.com/2014/02/full-s...ml#comment-form
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my dream bike would be kawasaki z250 omg so niceeee. but this is my first bike so i figured no point buying so expensive...might as well buy something cheaper and change later :/
btw any good second hand naked bikes other than duke?
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QUOTE(b3nl3y @ Mar 24 2014, 10:56 PM)
my dream bike would be kawasaki z250 omg so niceeee. but this is my first bike so i figured no point buying so expensive...might as well buy something cheaper and change later :/
btw any good second hand naked bikes other than duke?
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how bout naza blade 250n and 650n .... its cheap secondhand bike due to resale value of hyosung.. it has a fun v twin engine.. but the looks of it is kind is kinda letoff... but the bells and whistles it offers are quite good
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post Mar 24 2014, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(Manlet @ Mar 24 2014, 11:03 PM)
how bout naza blade 250n and 650n .... its cheap secondhand bike due to resale value of hyosung.. it has a fun v twin engine.. but the looks of it is kind is kinda letoff... but the bells and whistles it offers are quite good
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wa brother...650cc cannot la. I'm just a beginner lol.

but i cant see any second hand 250n on the internet. any idea which website got sell second hand motor?
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post Mar 25 2014, 12:00 AM

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on a side note..how much maintenance should i expect for a bike like this?
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QUOTE(b3nl3y @ Mar 24 2014, 09:12 PM)
hello everyone! here's a few questions

1) I'm a D license holder (without P. I'm 26 already) and would like to take a B2 license for motorbikes. Do i have to take any theory and test again? How much would it be if i take my B2 now? is it a one day process?

2) I'm recently into naked bikes and found that there's a few 250cc bikes that is DAMN INTERESTING. Any recommendation? My budget is below 10k if possible. (plus minus around there)

3) I've shortlisted a few. Any comments on the bikes below/other recommendation? Here's a few i'll list down.
a) megelli 250sr
b) YSM T2
c) Demak DZM 200
d) Keeway RKV200g
e) Nimota CK9

4) Last question. I'm quite noob la in bikes so i was just wondering what determines the tyre width size? Big tyre bikes looks cool tho!
The reasons I will be getting a bike will be more like a weekend drive or "night drive a.k.a yumcha" only. No daily use intended.
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Join the fb group for the respective bike below & read through their pages. that might help you (a lot) in choosing the bike.

DZM 200
Nimota CK9
RKV 200
DUKE 200

each of these bikes have their own minor/tiny problems, being a cheap 200cc bike (below 10K)
I would recommend DZM 200 because i'm getting one. tongue.gif
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post Mar 25 2014, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(afizzat @ Mar 25 2014, 12:22 AM)
Join the fb group for the respective bike below & read through their pages. that might help you (a lot) in choosing the bike.

DZM 200
Nimota CK9
RKV 200
DUKE 200

each of these bikes have their own minor/tiny problems, being a cheap 200cc bike (below 10K)
I would recommend DZM 200 because i'm getting one.  tongue.gif
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lazy to read thru all of their pages la...that's why open a topic here to gather all the sifu to have a chit chat tongue.gif
anyway what about dzm200? any problem should i expect if i buy it? pro/cons?
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QUOTE(b3nl3y @ Mar 25 2014, 08:46 AM)
lazy to read thru all of their pages la...that's why open a topic here to gather all the sifu to have a chit chat tongue.gif
anyway what about dzm200? any problem should i expect if i buy it? pro/cons?
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I haven't own the bike personally yet so cannot comment much. but based from the group page, the gear can be a little bit hard to downshift to N when stopping but this gets better over time so not much concern here & the bike is not that fast (this bike is not for speeding anyway).
other than that, nothing much to worry about.

anyway, each of the group got pinned post IINM. you can read them to get the general ideas.
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post Mar 25 2014, 10:42 AM

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i have joined dzm 200 fb group for about a month now...
it is hard for me to believe that new model has ZERO problems...not even minor one...

been aiming for dzm 200 for about a month now, waiting for 2nd batch to come out, as i asked reliable shops in penang which only sell china bikes like demak and kee way...

their manager comment about first batch of dzm 200 is that the screw of the engine easily comes off, even change new screw still easily loosen.. shocking.gif

but tracking fb dzm 200 group, none reported any problem of such...which makes me rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Mar 25 2014, 10:42 AM)
i have joined dzm 200 fb group for about a month now...
it is hard for me to believe that new model has ZERO problems...not even minor one...

been aiming for dzm 200 for about a month now, waiting for 2nd batch to come out, as i asked reliable shops in penang which only sell china bikes like demak and kee way...

their manager comment about first batch of dzm 200 is that the screw of the engine easily comes off, even change new screw still easily loosen.. shocking.gif

but tracking fb dzm 200 group, none reported any problem of such...which makes me  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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2nd batch already out lah. many dealers got it already.
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post Mar 25 2014, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(afizzat @ Mar 25 2014, 10:52 AM)
2nd batch already out lah. many dealers got it already.
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how u know?
i see u from penang/kedah as well...
where u plan to buy it?

so far i survey around penang island, only chang motorshop in pulau tikus gives best price..
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post Mar 25 2014, 11:25 AM

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The DZM 200 is a copy of the UM Xstreet 200
http://umglobal.com/en/index.php/sport/xtreet_2014

The Nimota CK9 is a copy of the Yamaha FZ16
http://www.yamaha-motor-india.com/product/fz16/index.html

Not sure if the copies have the same performance spec of the originals though. Then again, they may be licensed to do reproductions of the originals.

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post Mar 25 2014, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Mar 25 2014, 11:08 AM)
how u know?
i see u from penang/kedah as well...
where u plan to buy it?

so far i survey around penang island, only chang motorshop in pulau tikus gives best price..
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i know from the dzm fb group. got one shop (Koh Motor) at bukit tengah near the big roundabout selling dzm but 1st batch. i bought from men huat jitra. waiting to pick it up this weekend. it's new stock as they run out of stock since january kot.

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post Mar 25 2014, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(afizzat @ Mar 25 2014, 11:55 AM)
i know from the dzm fb group. got one shop (Koh Motor) at bukit tengah near the big roundabout selling dzm but 1st batch. i bought from men huat jitra. waiting to pick it up this weekend. it's new stock as they run out of stock since january kot.
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later lunch going to chang motor at pulau tikus to nego the price...hopefully can buy here, otherwise go selangor buy, then ride back to penang... flex.gif

u are right, new batch can book ady...

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