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 AMDŽ Socket-AM2 Overclocking thread, discuss our setup/overclocking issues

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Cyrus2k
post Aug 22 2006, 12:08 AM

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Joining the AM2 clan soon, since I will be switching from 939 to AM2 tongue.gif
I will getting the following spec :

AM2 X2 3600+
Biostar TF550
Corsair TwinX XMS2 DDR667 2x512MB

I kinda need advice on the mobo and RAM... is it ok with my current setting? I'm using this mainly for OC and gaming (already owns ATI X1600XT) so I'm wondering the Biostar TF550 and Corsair RAM would work great together tongue.gif And I had gone through a website saying that DDR2 bandwidth does not really have great effects... so should I get a normal value RAM or high performance RAM? (for OC purpose tongue.gif)

Also, I'm going to get a new PSU as well... any suggestion? My budget for the PSU is around RM350~400 (the less the better biggrin.gif). FYI, my current rig already have CDRW, DVDRW and one Maxtor 120GB HDD...
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post Aug 22 2006, 12:18 AM

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ah I see...

But actually, I'm still quite confused with the RAM OC... I know that in order to push my proc speed higher I have to increase the HTT, but then how do I know which divider/timing I should use for my RAM?
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post Aug 22 2006, 02:12 PM

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ohh.. thanks for the advice biggrin.gif

Anyway, need a quick advice (quite urgent coz I think I will go get it tonite), now I want to know whether I should get AM2 X2 or C2D, since my total budget for the upgrade of my computer now had raised to RM2k...

The stuff I intended to buy are :

AM2 X2 3600+
Biostar TF550
Mushkin DDR800 2x512MB (this three stuff will total up around RM1k+)

And now my brother agree to sponsor me another RM1k, so I'm really confused whether I should keep using AM2 or go for C2D?

I'm aiming for heavy gaming, and I already have a Sapphire ATI Radeon X1600XT, so should I ditch the X1600 and get a X1900 or 7900GT?
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post Aug 23 2006, 01:13 AM

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Add me to the clan list now... tongue.gif

AM2 X2 3600+ Windsor F2 | Biostar TF550 | Mushkin DDR2-800 | Stock AMD cooler
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post Aug 24 2006, 03:19 PM

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soulfly : You got a Biostar TF550 mobo before right?
A question, how do I change the clock multiplier in the BIOS? I found one option and changed it to x8, but when I look into cpuz it was still in x10...
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post Aug 24 2006, 10:37 PM

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My X2 3600+ SuperPi 1M time was 37secs only even though I OC'ed it to 2.4GHz now...

Is it normal? I think its pretty slow compare to my old Venice 3000+ (OC'ed to 2.5GHz) which get 35secs... Wasn't dual core suppose to be faster? Or RAM also play a big role? (Correct me if I'm wrong.. still quite new with the benchies tongue.gif )
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post Aug 25 2006, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Aug 24 2006, 11:05 PM)
Venice 512MB L2 cache
X2 3600+ 256MB LC cache per core
Single core or multiple core doesn't affect Super PI. What's important is L2 cache and CPU frequency. If your CPU is running fast enough, RAM timings doesn't matter (eg: Conroe).

You should have bought the X2 3800+ and enjoy 512MB L2 cache per core. IMO, the X2 3600+ is basically a Dual Core Sempr0n.
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doh.gif Nevermind, I'm just trying to get the best out of my "Sempron X2" tongue.gif

@soulfly
wow, you got some nice results there; what is your idle and load temperature? I'm using stock cooler as well, but now my CPU (OC'ed to 2.4GHz) temp could go up to around 55~58C during maxload (afternoon time)...
I'm just thinking whether I should wait for my Scythe Infinity before pushing it higher unsure.gif

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post Aug 25 2006, 05:18 PM

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@8tvt
I'm stressing using the dual core version of super prime tongue.gif You can see both my CPU are in 100% load in the Speedfan window.

Now I wonder if I increase Vcore to 1.5V would the temp could be kept around 60C.. What is the safe temp for dual core CPU?
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post Aug 25 2006, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(lucklyghost @ Aug 25 2006, 06:17 PM)
i going to buy
Ahtlon x 2 3600 = rm449
Mushkin 512MB PC800 DDR2 = rm230
Biostar TF550 = rm319
and i will take my xp90c to put in to my new AM2 socket , izzit good?
i just scare AMD will not stable at all only....
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Thats my setting now biggrin.gif I already OC'ed it to 2.4GHz and ran through priming for 8 hours already biggrin.gif

Maybe I will try to push it higher, but only scare the temp would go out of control blink.gif
Trying to tighten the timings for RAM now... biggrin.gif

@Jealousy
For RAM, you could get 1GB kit for Corsair XMS or Mushkin EM for that budget...

As for cooling method, depends which type you want. You could get a pretty good air cooler for about RM200, for liquid cooling it will be much more higher.

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post Aug 26 2006, 02:40 AM

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QUOTE(lucklyghost @ Aug 26 2006, 01:44 AM)
u r using original HSF or wat ?
i think ram i will buy 512 DDR800 enuff liao , coz if i buy 1 more 512 ddr800 will out of my budget,
so the cooling method i think i will use back my xp90c , izzit will be ok ?
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Ya, original HSF biggrin.gif You could refer to my earlier post for the screen shot of my cpuz and temp tongue.gif

You are buying value ram or performance ram? Its better to make it dual channel biggrin.gif I'm currently using 2x512MB Mushkin DDR800 value RAM, so far so good..

As for PSU, I think its quite enough, since I remember I saw somebody in this forum using ACbel 450W and have identical setting with yours. But I guess its better for you to check how much energy your x800XT eats。。。

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post Aug 26 2006, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(lucklyghost @ Aug 26 2006, 09:49 AM)
i think i will only buy one 512mb DDR800 mushkin brand , coz 1 ram already rm230 ,if buy 2 will out of my budget  ...., and DDR800 the cheaper is mushkin.
haihz.....duno want choose athlon x2 3800+ AM2 or athlon x2 3600 am2, and duno whether one 512DDR2 800 enuff , or buy two 512DDR 2 800 x 2 to put Dual channel...so fan ....need a lot of money ...
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haha, just the same condition as mine tongue.gif

Anyway, if you are really tight on budget, then just get X2 3600+ since you could actually OC it to 2.4GHz or above (with better cooler). I saw an article before that manage to overclock X2 3600+ to 2.6GHz and the performance already nearly same as X2 5000+ rclxms.gif

As for the RAM, you could just get one stick, then later get another stick lor. tongue.gif

btw, ugpm thumbup.gif
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post Aug 26 2006, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(lucklyghost @ Aug 26 2006, 12:49 PM)
izzit big different between x2 3600+ and x2 3800 ?
i just know is Catch memory different only
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Just like soulfly stated; the cache does not really makes a big difference in performance; but might slower when you wanna bench with SuperPi tongue.gif

You could refer this link for the overlock review for X2 3600+ wink.gif

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post Aug 27 2006, 02:56 AM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Aug 27 2006, 01:19 AM)
I just compared the Bios oc menu with the manual come with the board.

There isn't the option of "Hammer CPU Multiplier" as stated in BIOS.....
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I think inside the manual is for illustrate purpose only; there is one option that could let you to change the multiplier smile.gif
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post Aug 28 2006, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Aug 28 2006, 01:40 PM)
Just want to ask fellow TF550 users, what power supply u are using. smile.gif
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I'm using Enermax FMA 535W.. so far so good, no problem smile.gif

Waiiting for my scythe before pumping more Vcore to get higher clock biggrin.gif
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post Aug 31 2006, 05:22 PM

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hmm, haven't try 32M yet...

But, when I try to push my clock spd higher than 2.4GHz, the whole system become unstable and will restart automatically...

Is this the sign of not enough Vcore? I tried to put 1.5 Vcore and push the clock to 2.6GHz, then my comp restart automatically while I try to stress test...
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post Sep 1 2006, 12:36 AM

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3600+ @ 260 x 10= 2.6GHz, 1.5 Vcore
HTT Multi 3x

Memory:
DDR533 divider (Timing auto), 2.0Vdimm

Dunno what is limiting my cpu now... hopefully not my mobo or proc doh.gif

EDIT: Well, this is my 32M results @ 2.4GHz biggrin.gif

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post Sep 1 2006, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Sep 1 2006, 01:04 AM)
Firstly, install the latest AMDX2 optimizer patch (AMD website) if you haven't installed it. Not sure whether it fix anything besides optimize the performance, well just to be safe.

Secondly, for each voltage increament... try SuperPi 8M and test it by increasing Mhz little by little until you meet instability, then you up the voltage by 1 notch. That will prevent you from feeding voltage where it's just unnecessary.

Thirdly, while leaving your memory timings at AUTO, just set the command per clock at 2T.

Fourthly, watch out for the temperature.

Lastly, have you flashed to the latest BIOS?
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Well, now had installed the dual core optimizer. I had also flashed into the newset BIOS (using the windows flashing utility)

Thanks for the advice on voltage increment, now I found that my proc could run at 255x10 = 2.55GHz @ 1.425 Vcore thumbup.gif
But there is one starnge thing I found; when I put the 1.425 Vcore in Bios, it will show as 1.440 Vcore in cpuz. Does this mean my mobo giving some extra Vcore to the proc?

At 2.55GHz, I could pass super pi 8M & 32M but unable to get pass Stress Prime after 5 minutes...

At 2.6GHz @ 1.45 Vcore, could not pass 8M (restart automatically)..

I dunno whats limiting my comp now... rclxub.gif


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post Sep 6 2006, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(mruzian @ Sep 6 2006, 08:27 PM)
here's my AMD X2 3600 @ 2.6
@ 2.6
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1.25Vcore??

wow..

My X2 3600+ @ 2.4GHz need 1.35Vcore.. rclxub.gif

Which RAM divider you use?
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post Sep 11 2006, 01:25 AM

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well.. I only got to 2.4GHz @ 240 x 10 so far... now waiting for my new RAM to continue OC... doh.gif
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post Sep 11 2006, 02:32 AM

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If you fried your chip, I don't think you can actually boot up your comp tongue.gif

Anyway, I got the same result as yours.. so I guess its speedfan detection problem or not compatible with our mobo..

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