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 AMD® Socket-AM2 Overclocking thread, discuss our setup/overclocking issues

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tachlio
post Sep 27 2006, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Sep 27 2006, 08:25 PM)
Not sure about default speed, but at overclocked speed my idle temp is around 30'C~32'C only.
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Then for 30~32C is CPU right??

so the System tem higher or lower than CPU tem??

i mean not load~ flex.gif

if lower then i really feel great getting this board~ rclxm9.gif

And if full load will CPU higher or still remain lower then System tem?
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post Sep 27 2006, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Sep 27 2006, 08:37 PM)
the cpu temp idles lower than system temp

probably the system temp probe is near to the mobo chipset, the chipset is freakin hot
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notworthy.gif thk abang soulfy~~

Later will try OC my DFI Infinity UltraII M2~~

also pls update my AM2 clan~~~ to DFI board~~

thk rclxms.gif
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post Oct 10 2006, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(F@NT@sy_G@RRic @ Oct 10 2006, 12:43 PM)
yup....BTVX heatpipe block my slot 1 and slot2..so i put my ram at slot3 and slot4
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blink.gif omg it will block slot 1 @ 2 so how about the Tt Mini Typhon(with 2 mini fan ) ??

i might get it soon , will it also block my ram slot 1 @ 2??

BTVX or mini Typhon better? coz both different not much in price~ and also got 150w heat dissipate ....

but mini typhon is all copper and much smaller and cute ^^ laugh.gif

p/s : artic cooler where can i get beside bulks from sidewinder ? drool.gif
scare kena high duty from kastam ~ haha~ sweat.gif
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post Oct 22 2006, 12:12 PM

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will cooler master hyper tx block DFI infinity ultra M2's ram slot???

anyone test it??

compare abour CM hyper tx and Arctic freezer 64 pro~

CM hyper TX

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some compare CM with Arctcx~
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post Oct 23 2006, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Oct 22 2006, 03:01 PM)
tachlio:

I am planning to get Hyper TX as well. I believe the fan shroud will not interfere with UltraII-M2's ram slots. I've tried compare (by images) that the clearance is just fine.
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but seen got another problem ~~

the HS too high and will over the side panel there~

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這顆殼是約克夏外部寬度約為16公分
導熱管是會頂到側版的

Sorry i help tranlate this >>> the nut too high and is about 16CM so the top will touch the side panel ~ sweat.gif

Any idea Soulfy?
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post Oct 23 2006, 04:29 PM

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ATE ?? what is it ~ ?
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post Nov 12 2006, 12:06 PM

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soulfy did you try CM hyper Tx ady??

Fast post result and see~~~

tak sabah nak tunggu~ ^^
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post Nov 28 2006, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(tachlio @ Oct 22 2006, 12:12 PM)
will cooler master hyper tx block DFI infinity ultra M2's ram slot???

anyone test it??

compare abour CM hyper tx and Arctic freezer 64 pro~

CM hyper TX

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some compare CM with Arctcx~
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bang soulfy did try your Cm hyper TX ady??

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post Nov 28 2006, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(mruzian @ Nov 27 2006, 04:10 PM)
the big diff is the socket
s939 got 939 pins
meanwhile am2 got 940 pins  tongue.gif

hehe the major diff is AM2 supports DDR2
but S939 DDR1

performance wise dun know ... but
i think there's not much diff
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System 1 - 939
DFI LanParty NF4 SLI-DR Expert (939)
AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ (939)
2x1GB OCZ PC4000EL Gold DDR1 @ 3-4-8-4
ATI X1900XT 512MB PCI-E @ 625/650 (stock speed), using Omega 6.7 drivers
Creative Audigy2 ZS PCI sound
80GB Hitachi SATA II
OCZ GamerXStream 600w psu
NEC 3550A DVD-RW


System 2 - AM2
DFI Infinity NF4 Ultra II-M2 AM2 (AM2)
AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ (AM2)
2x1GB OCZ Gold GX PC2-8000 (DDR2 1000Mhz) @ 5-6-15-6
ATI X1900XT 512MB PCI-E @ 625/650 (stock speed), using Omega 6.7 drivers
Creative Audigy2 ZS PCI sound
250GB Seagate 7200.10 SATA II
OCZ Powerstream 600w psu
NEC 3550A DVD-RW


Everything was ran first at stock speed, then again @ 250x10 (2500Mhz cpu speed)


Here's the first comparison chart, with just the end-result scores from the benchmarks:

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Well, what it looks like to me is that in gaming (synthetic tests but it is good indication of performance differences since the tests are identical, and the platforms are virtually identical), as we already know, the gpu is the factor these days, as the game devs as well as Microsoft (with their DX9.0c API) have moved the majority of the load off the cpu and into the gpu.

This is good in a way, but is in no way an indication of a full-bore game like Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter for example, which has a large amount of particle and regular phsysics, as well as some pretty advanced AI.

The only problem with testing real games...is that there's no standard test. Time Demos that we are used to are not really good indicators of exact performance since it is a recorded event.

Live gaming is a perfect performance measurement, but each game plays differently, with the player and usually the AI and physics engines also doing something different each time, as well as my 30 second run through Half Life 2 for a benchmark might be totally different than your 30 second benchmark run, even if we started in the exact same spot.

The point is, there's very little difference in these cpu's, whether stock or overclocked. You can see up to a 10% difference in pure cpu tests, but to me, that is still very little difference.


The other important factor right now is the price of DDR2. Good DDR2-1000Mhz modules for overclocking, like the OCZ modules I have, are up around $400 for a 2GB kit...pretty outrageous considering the DDR500 kit for the 939 is right around $170-$180.

Since the 3800+ cpu is the same price, and the motherboards, video cards, power supplies, etc are all the same price regardless of platform, that means a pretty large $200 gap between the "old" DDR1 and the "new" DDR2.

Right now I would easily recommend a 939 platform over the new AM2 for a couple of reasons:

1. price of RAM, as I just mentioned
2. not a big performance gap...yet
3. 939 platforms are old...which means they are mature and most of the bugs have been ironed out. AM2...very new, we still don't know how many bugs we will find!
4. Stock Speed Database + Overclocking Database...there's 1 entry in the AM2 OCDB, and 2 in the SSDB...and a hundred in the 939 OCDB and 2 pages' worth in the SSDB.




I'm not bagging on the AM2 at all. I've found myself very impressed with the DFI Infinity NF Ultra II-M2 board and my DDR2 1000Mhz OCZ modules as well as my 3800+ X2 cpu. The Infinity AM2 is also quite easy to overclock so far....if you look in the Overclocking Database you will see my entry, and how I've not really touched much. On top of that, right now I am shooting for 260x10, and after that I will check of course 270x10 and 280x10 etc until it fails, then I will start dropping dividers on it and see just how far she will go.

That should tide me and you over until the new AM2 Nvidia SLI & ATI Crossfire boards arrive



So there you have it. I've tested pretty thoroughly I think, though of course some of you will cry that I didn't do enough, didn't do it right, didn't do something that you would have.

Too bad, I did what I always do, and for 99% of you, this information is exactly what you are looking for, not some nit-picky anal-retentive nonsense from some guy who just absolutely has to have the very last half-mhz of performance squeezed out of his rig.

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post Dec 18 2006, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Dec 18 2006, 09:51 AM)
wow seem like Biostar mobo quite good for OC & its cheap...
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quite true but don forget also DFI too~ drool.gif
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Dec 20 2006, 07:27 PM)
Vantec Iceberq can be found in most pc accessories shop I think. As for Evercool VC-RE... I have no idea.

Another alternative would be Thermalright HR-05/HR-05 SLi... but a bit expensive.
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mordeno got bulks evercool VC-RF~

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/362418
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post Jan 3 2007, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jan 3 2007, 12:56 PM)
I think that is what we call cold-boot. Maybe the cpu has not enough voltage supply during boot... or maybe it's just BIOS issue.
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ya last time when i using Asus M2N-E also having cool boot issue, update latest may solve it. hands.gif


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QUOTE(sempronic @ Jan 3 2007, 02:49 PM)
wokeh.... icon_rolleyes.gif
now just uptade the latest bios from my mobo manufacture site... rclxms.gif
the bios is for stability with using X2 3800++ hope can stable mine also..... sweat.gif

just pray for it.... notworthy.gif
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what is ur Idle Tem and Load Tem now?? ( TTBTVX ) flex.gif
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post Jan 14 2007, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(Oblivon @ Jan 14 2007, 08:24 PM)
Going to get a AM2 rig soon, can anyone recommend me a mobo around RM300 ?
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Biostar mobo should be great choice blush.gif
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QUOTE(teckhooi @ Jan 15 2007, 11:36 PM)
DFI Infinity nF UltraII-M2

No One Recomend This?
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This one over RM 300 Budget la

Anywhere DFI is a great board if u think twice ~

Biostar be my secondary choice ~
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Jan 20 2007, 12:20 PM)
i guess people edi bought it before NF 570 release...

btw, where did u get those pricing??
nice price there...
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Ya time i get Ultra2-M2 570 still not launch yet~ nod.gif
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QUOTE(glare842006 @ Feb 5 2007, 09:56 PM)
wondering wat's the differences if HT higher then computer will run faster? or when multitasking then only can see the effect?
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last time i see an article that say HT multiple 3x and 4x wont different much~~

we cant notice any significant changes, but for safety better keep around 1000~ nod.gif
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Apr 27 2007, 09:12 PM)
the mobo might not recognize
there's a few guys using the same mobo as mine had issues with brisbane
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wow lucky i din change my pro to brisbana yet~

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