Working in Australia, Whats the procedures?
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 Jul 27 2006, 06:39 PM
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theres no place like home, seriously.
and Darun, same here, agree totally, I earn 1000pound as I earn RM2000 in malaysia, living expenses is almost the same, example I spend rm500 a month in malaysia, but i spend 200 pound only here(no tax, no need to pay food and transportaion and rent, all included), in the end I save 800 pound a month and thats equal to rm4500++ instead of saving rm1500 in malaysia  This post has been edited by ah_suknat: Jul 27 2006, 06:41 PM |
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Jul 27 2006, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 22 2006, 07:53 PM) If working overseas will not earn more than working locally, why in the world would people want to jump???I can pretty damn sure that if you work as the same position in the overseas compare to malaysian you will get a hell lot of salary, just talk at me for example, If I work as a waiter in malaysia top hotel like shangri-la top restaurant lafite the most I will earn is like rm1800 -2000 per month maximum, I know that coz I train in the human resource b4, secondly, I you are no local kl people you will have to pay transport, rent, tax etc etc etc.in the end you onlike got less than 1000 to save You don't get me do you? I said legally employed. You do not earn more money if you spend there, it is when you spend it in Malaysia that gives you the perception that you earn more.then if you work here (UK) as a waiter, you can atleast earn 200pound MINIMUM PER WEEK, thats equal to rm1300++ per week and rm5000++ per month, and there is alot of employer who offer accomodation and food free.if you are saver type of person you can even spend lesser than you spend in malaysia coz you dont pay anything, yes the authorities are strict but its impossible for them to check from one place to another, theres about 500000 illegal here, from all over the world. you earn big bucks working with no permitt if you lucky to find a good job, than you earn really big bucks with working permitt. dont forget we are talking about this guy/gal who in desperate of money and low qualification. (NO OFFENCE) thats not my opinion, but my experiance.  blue:That's wrong. Do you know how much are the 'big bucks' if you have a valid work permit? QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 27 2006, 05:20 PM) ^^^not as easy as you think,you got to live or work there for atleast few years, not sure how long it is , pay the tax for few years, professional degree grad than you have a CHANCE to get PR. or your parents stay there for more than 5 years than apply for PR the whole family. not as easy as you think, just think about how many student there are in Aussie, In my high school there's like 1/3 of the student all go to Aussie to study. Nope. Wrong. One can apply immediately after one's graduation under the skilled professionals class IIRC. |
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Jul 28 2006, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(feynman @ Jul 27 2006, 10:04 PM) Nope. Wrong. One can apply immediately after one's graduation under the skilled professionals class IIRC. yes, that's right! even one can apply under the dependent visa if they have close relatives there. it is easier than the professionals class visa as you don't need as many points to get it. |
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Jul 28 2006, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(sinichi_v @ Jul 28 2006, 12:56 PM) yes, that's right! even one can apply under the dependent visa if they have close relatives there. it is easier than the professionals class visa as you don't need as many points to get it. that is called the australian sponsored overseas visa, yes you might not need many points but the process and time gets longer and more complicated. You need to go through another extra process called assurance of support and in general getting a PR in australia is not as easy as it sounds these days. The points have increased, application fees have also increased, wonder if they will continue to increase those factors every year.. |
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Jul 29 2006, 08:56 PM
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Tumpang thread:
I m interested in working in UK. May I know the procedure to go there? Where, what, how to apply all that? Really need the info, tq. Btw, anyone interested in working there too? |
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Jul 29 2006, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(4everlove @ Jul 29 2006, 08:56 PM) Tumpang thread: It would be easier if you study there first. But then again, there are no promises. Gaining a work permit in the UK is not easy, your employer will need to show proof that you are the only suitable one for the job. That is to say, no other local or EU citizen fits the job requirement.I m interested in working in UK. May I know the procedure to go there? Where, what, how to apply all that? Really need the info, tq. Btw, anyone interested in working there too? However, if you're in the F&B industry, the chances of you securing a job will be higher. |
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Jul 29 2006, 11:10 PM
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I dun think I qualify for any specialist job, just go there be waitress, i already pm Ah-suknat, if i really go there, maybe i'll find him n ask for his help in searching for job, accomodation all that. No, not gonna study there, coz it's super expensive, n i m not that young anymore.
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Jul 29 2006, 11:30 PM
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Jump aeroplane loh...that's the only way. Make sure you're aware of the risks.
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Jul 30 2006, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(feynman @ Jul 29 2006, 11:30 PM) Jump aeroplane loh...that's the only way. Make sure you're aware of the risks. Actually thats not a bad option. But you must consider it very carefully. If you intend to build a career in your field of study, then you should not do that because you most likely will not be able to get a legal job. But if you just want to earn money, you can earn quite a lot even as a waiter. A few of my course mates dropped out and worked as a waiter and they can earn on average between USD 3 to 4k per month on their tips and base salary. The good side is, working in a restaurant your meals are included so you save there as well. The bad thing is you work 6-7 days a week, 12 hours a day. The side effect of the bad thing is that you wont have much time to spend your money, so you end up saving a lot. |
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Jul 30 2006, 12:16 PM
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salary as a waiter/waitress is different between the states and uk compare to malaysia. in uk n us u depend a lot on tips and service charge.usually the basic salary is very low.like 50 2 60 pound a week,i heard that the states dont even have basic.only tips. service charge and tips depend on the business and the surrounding of the area.if the area your working is poor people the give less tips. and poor business means low service charge too.but less stress. if wanna earn big bucks.go to city restaurant.but all staff very stress and bad tempered one.they will even fight infront of customer. i nearly fight with this bloody sarawakian. they even persuade you to go betting and even take marijuana.i am i good boy so i dont follow them.they will talk behind you to the boss too.waiter job also got politic one.and you better dont de zui the chef or you wont stay for long. now why do i talk about all this stuff? :?
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Jul 30 2006, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 30 2006, 12:16 PM) salary as a waiter/waitress is different between the states and uk compare to malaysia. in uk n us u depend a lot on tips and service charge.usually the basic salary is very low.like 50 2 60 pound a week,i heard that the states dont even have basic.only tips. service charge and tips depend on the business and the surrounding of the area.if the area your working is poor people the give less tips. and poor business means low service charge too.but less stress. if wanna earn big bucks.go to city restaurant.but all staff very stress and bad tempered one.they will even fight infront of customer. i nearly fight with this bloody sarawakian. they even persuade you to go betting and even take marijuana.i am i good boy so i dont follow them.they will talk behind you to the boss too.waiter job also got politic one.and you better dont de zui the chef or you wont stay for long. now why do i talk about all this stuff? :? Are u sure is only 50-60 pound a week?  |
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Jul 31 2006, 02:32 AM
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may be not that low la...i think around 70 to 80 pound a week.thats your basic.but the tips and service charge so high you can get like 250 to 280 pound a week.if in peak season like christmas,boxing day,new year period. you can earn 450 pound a week but very very tired one. every 4 month you work you get a big day.the boss will give you basic salary plus one week off. i do different job. so my salary is 240 pound a week no tips or watsoever.but every 4 month i get full one week extra salary but no week off.
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Jul 31 2006, 02:46 AM
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 27 2006, 05:20 PM) ^^^not as easy as you think,you got to live or work there for atleast few years, not sure how long it is , pay the tax for few years, professional degree grad than you have a CHANCE to get PR. or your parents stay there for more than 5 years than apply for PR the whole family. not as easy as you think, just think about how many student there are in Aussie, In my high school there's like 1/3 of the student all go to Aussie to study. my sis got her PR after finished her studies and internship of 1 year in australia. |
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Jul 31 2006, 03:17 AM
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emm...may be your sis apply for gov job,or some job that really important to their community.or may be your sis proven to be a very good citizen.
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Jul 31 2006, 03:22 AM
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 31 2006, 03:17 AM) emm...may be your sis apply for gov job,or some job that really important to their community.or may be your sis proven to be a very good citizen. then maybe they need pharmacist...she is legally earning good money right now. |
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Jul 31 2006, 04:24 AM
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so good got such good sister.compare to my sis...haiz...only know how to spend money.now 25 still studying uni.not yet working.me 21 already start working.i am not going to give her money.hehehe.
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Jul 31 2006, 04:25 AM
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 31 2006, 05:24 AM) so good got such good sister.compare to my sis...haiz...only know how to spend money.now 25 still studying uni.not yet working.me 21 already start working.i am not going to give her money.hehehe. best of all, she's not working for malaysia. another brain drain. |
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Jul 31 2006, 10:46 AM
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4,210 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Malaysia
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Just in case nobody said this, the job responsibilities that you're appointed when working in Malaysia might defer as well. There might be other things they're required to do. Normally in the bigger MNC type sector, you'll find their employee job responsibilities closer to what others in other countries are doing.
After all, there's a reason they're called Multi-National.  So don't just think of pay, if you get hired but take too long to learn new responsibilities or can't perform well enough later, you'll be out of the job within a month. |
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Jul 31 2006, 01:30 PM
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I have go through IMMI website and found out that i need many years of working experience only elegible to qualify, even though i have BSC (Hons) with networking professional cert.
like 'etsuko' mention, by joining MNC company and get them to sponser you oversea. That is the best way. |
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Jul 31 2006, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(Paul Lam @ Jul 30 2006, 11:47 PM) Are u sure is only 50-60 pound a week? That's a lot considering, lodging and food are free.QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 31 2006, 03:17 AM) emm...may be your sis apply for gov job,or some job that really important to their community.or may be your sis proven to be a very good citizen. haha...wrong. You don't need to be working for the government or working in a critical profession to get a PR. |
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