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post Jul 21 2006, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 21 2006, 09:39 PM)
thats a bloody long way. how if people want money desperately??people want to work overseas coz they want earn more money ma...not spend more money....
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Who told you that you'll earn more overseas? Sure, the exchange rate is high but don't forget, the tax is high too. Assuming you're legally employed there.

Gone are the days where you can just enter a country and work illegally. The authorities are very strict. Once caught, it's the end for you. Also, you won't be really earning big bucks without a work permit.
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post Jul 22 2006, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 21 2006, 09:23 PM)
yeah, jump aeroplane, thats what I am doing now...
I mean dont do like that, you will regret like me.
if you want to be a legal person, look for a company that willing to hire you, and most importantly they willing to give you a working permitt also, BEFORE you go!! if you come as tourist visa it will stay for 6 month, and its not easy to find a job thats can offer you working permitt unless you have special skill like chinese doctor or what so ever special skill. or the easiest way, look for a school(cheap one) that offer english course, apply for student visa and that will atleast hold for a year.
if you dont want all the hustle thing just jump like me.
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The best thing is, ask someone to recommend you a job. Once you reached there, you can start to apply for the permit. This will save you a lot of time biggrin.gif
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post Jul 22 2006, 04:02 AM

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QUOTE(quintessential @ Jul 21 2006, 12:42 PM)
thread starter to be exact. sorry to make you confused.
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 21 2006, 09:23 PM)
yeah, jump aeroplane, thats what I am doing now...
I mean dont do like that, you will regret like me.
if you want to be a legal person, look for a company that willing to hire you, and most importantly they willing to give you a working permitt also, BEFORE you go!! if you come as tourist visa it will stay for 6 month, and its not easy to find a job thats can offer you working permitt unless you have special skill like chinese doctor or what so ever special skill. or the easiest way, look for a school(cheap one) that offer english course, apply for student visa and that will atleast hold for a year.
if you dont want all the hustle thing just jump like me.
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I might take English course in Aussie as well, still thinking, thanks anyway smile.gif

QUOTE(feynman @ Jul 21 2006, 09:29 PM)
Spend some money, get a graduate diploma then apply for PR. Not easy, but it works.
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I tot of tat too ... but is really hard for me now .....
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post Jul 22 2006, 10:26 AM

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What is your highest qualification ?
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post Jul 22 2006, 04:22 PM

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post Jul 22 2006, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(feynman @ Jul 21 2006, 10:19 PM)
Who told you that you'll earn more overseas? Sure, the exchange rate is high but don't forget, the tax is high too. Assuming you're legally employed there.

Gone are the days where you can just enter a country and work illegally. The authorities are very strict. Once caught, it's the end for you. Also, you won't be really earning big bucks without a work permit.
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If working overseas will not earn more than working locally, why in the world would people want to jump???I can pretty damn sure that if you work as the same position in the overseas compare to malaysian you will get a hell lot of salary, just talk at me for example, If I work as a waiter in malaysia top hotel like shangri-la top restaurant lafite the most I will earn is like rm1800 -2000 per month maximum, I know that coz I train in the human resource b4, secondly, I you are no local kl people you will have to pay transport, rent, tax etc etc etc.in the end you onlike got less than 1000 to save

then if you work here (UK) as a waiter, you can atleast earn 200pound MINIMUM PER WEEK, thats equal to rm1300++ per week and rm5000++ per month, and there is alot of employer who offer accomodation and food free.if you are saver type of person you can even spend lesser than you spend in malaysia coz you dont pay anything, yes the authorities are strict but its impossible for them to check from one place to another, theres about 500000 illegal here, from all over the world. you earn big bucks working with no permitt if you lucky to find a good job, than you earn really big bucks with working permitt.

dont forget we are talking about this guy/gal who in desperate of money and low qualification. (NO OFFENCE) thats not my opinion, but my experiance.

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 21 2006, 09:23 PM)
yeah, jump aeroplane, thats what I am doing now...
I mean dont do like that, you will regret like me.
if you want to be a legal person, look for a company that willing to hire you, and most importantly they willing to give you a working permitt also, BEFORE you go!! if you come as tourist visa it will stay for 6 month, and its not easy to find a job thats can offer you working permitt unless you have special skill like chinese doctor or what so ever special skill. or the easiest way, look for a school(cheap one) that offer english course, apply for student visa and that will atleast hold for a year.
if you dont want all the hustle thing just jump like me.
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Im currently at Aussie actually .... Still thinking should I stay now to look for job or go back 1st .....

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post Jul 25 2006, 02:38 PM

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did they recognize our Msia university degree certification?? Coz i believe some country don't recognize. Then end up have to work as waiter/waitress at there
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fresh grade can apply work overseas?
can apply to work in england?
i want earn big pounds and see rooney in action.

my friend say go there work as waiter salary 3k pound per month, convert here around 20k.
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QUOTE(funkyboi @ Jul 25 2006, 07:42 PM)
fresh grade can apply work overseas?
can apply to work in england?
i want earn big pounds and see rooney in action.

my friend say go there work as waiter salary 3k pound per month, convert here around 20k.
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Depends, but mearely impossible to earn that much, the most I have ever heard is 1800 pound per month, unless if you do extra job than it may be possible.
even the local brithish people also canot earn that much money la...apatah lagi we as foreigners???

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can teach me how to jump aeroplane?

also how to search for jobs as waiter there?
my english is very fluent.
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post Jul 25 2006, 08:52 PM

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Do you wanna do the safe way or the not-so-safe way? the fast way or the slow way??the cheap way or the expensive way??
attention, there is no fast, safe, and cheap, gotta sacrifice atleast one.

if you wanna do the cheap and fast way then it wont be safe, just passport and come straight away, but you will have the status as illegal, thats the risk.

if you wanna do the safe way, then it wont be fast and cheap, you have to search for a job then apply working permitt, or find a school then pay the course fees, and go for interview with the embassy people.
or apply working holiday visa but you have to wait for long time. that way you are legal here.

me??I do the cheap and fast way.

searching for a waiter job is relatively easy here, got lots of people advertise in news paper.

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QUOTE(funkyboi @ Jul 25 2006, 07:57 PM)
can teach me how to jump aeroplane?

also how to search for jobs as waiter there?
my english is very fluent.
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You can look for any advert in the newspaper. Sometime they do advertise this kind of position in Australia and England.
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post Jul 26 2006, 04:29 PM

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I'm looking forward to work in Australia or England. Is very hard to go work legally. So many requirement. SucccK
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QUOTE(funkyboi @ Jul 25 2006, 10:57 PM)
can teach me how to jump aeroplane?

also how to search for jobs as waiter there?
my english is very fluent.
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most chinese restaurants prefer you to be able to speak mandarin, english and cantonese. they mostly put an advertisement seeking for waiters. from what i've heard, if you are willing to work late at night, the pay is higher, and also there's more tips?
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post Jul 27 2006, 01:19 PM

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if u're graduate at Aussi, you can easily get the PR once you have the PR it is easy for you to get a job I mean legally employed other than work in restorant....

for those gradute in malaysia, unless those company in aussi really need you else those come with PR will have the 1st priority....

the better way is let those aussie company in malaysia relocate you and work in aussie... rolleyes.gif

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post Jul 27 2006, 05:20 PM

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^^^not as easy as you think,you got to live or work there for atleast few years, not sure how long it is , pay the tax for few years, professional degree grad than you have a CHANCE to get PR. or your parents stay there for more than 5 years than apply for PR the whole family. not as easy as you think, just think about how many student there are in Aussie, In my high school there's like 1/3 of the student all go to Aussie to study.
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post Jul 27 2006, 05:53 PM

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Dunno about australia, but i used to work in the states. After taxes, as far as living costs & expenses its about the same as in Malaysia, so I save about the same amount of money there as here in Malaysia, but its in USD. So when I came back to Malaysia, the money quadrupled (3.8). So working overseas (depending on country I guess) is a good option to save money. Our Ringgit is very weak. Even if you can save RM10k-RM20k a year, its a pretty small amount depending on what you want to do (i.e. travelling overseas, tuition fees for your kids abroad, buy car, house, etc).

Also, the government isnt making it easy on us, especially with the taxes on cars. For example, as a fresh IT grad in the states I was making USD2000 net a month (after taxes, etc). As I said cost of living is about the same, so lets say RM2000 here. But a honda civic only costs USD18000 there. So if I save USD1000 a month I can get a civic within 2 years. Whereas, here a civic costs RM100,000. If I save RM1000/month that'll take me around 9 years.

Same deal with goods as well, Nike basketball shoe there around USD150, thats 7.5% of my net monthly salary (150/2000 * 100), here its RM500, thats 25% of my net monthly salary (500/2000 * 100). PS2, USD200 when launched, thats 10% in the states, here its RM1000, thats 50% of the salary. See how low the buying capacity our Ringgit gives us?
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Well my cousin was actually working at a hospital at sydney which is quite high rank there but the advice she gave to her sister (nurse too) dont come over because aussie are quite racist there. They dont like foreigner especially chinese.

Is better to work at SG than at aussie since the exchange rate is almost the same. Unless u prefer the life there. But i think i prefer the food and life in malaysia at least after 5pm still got a lot of stall open and can go mamak stall yam cha hehe.

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