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 Proton Savvy LYN Club V5, The survival skills

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post May 16 2014, 05:58 AM

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QUOTE(e-lite @ May 15 2014, 10:15 PM)
Ok, i'll find out the material price and ID/ODs of bushing.  nod.gif

Mind you, fyi the original bushing is only RM20 a piece.
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I thought market already have ready stock for C21LNR whistling.gif

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 16 2014, 01:30 AM)
e-lite

depending on pricing, i might be interested for the iswara laugh.gif
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As per above, if got ready made why not buy outside and install straight away, might wanna consult nestum regarding PU bush for Ishwaga. If really dun hab, ma die die custom make lor. Please go to Shaga Ishwaga tered and start a bulk there sleep.gif 1 piece you want good pricing meh doh.gif
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post May 16 2014, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(drivenheat @ May 16 2014, 09:07 PM)
hello..
eyh.. guy today just receive 2nd hand sawi for my wife..
2010 (M) oyen colour..

so happy lorr.. i hope nothing will spoil my happiness.. 

-fuel supply got little problem, start hidup tapi mati semula, when start have to push fuel pedal, happen 1 time.. fuel meter main2 pulak.. kejap penuh kejap abis..

-handling not bad, tapi stering tak boleh ejas kasi rendah ke?
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Welcome to the small family. Fuel pam sudah stat kacau, kasi tukak, itu meter pon akan kembali mia. steering mmg takleh ejes.
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post May 16 2014, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(drivenheat @ May 16 2014, 09:27 PM)
thanks bro.. any other think i should check please advice..
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If your previous owner got provide service record, please check for last service is when and you shall follow the service record and carry on with the regular service interval. If you don't get any information from previous owner, best is see your odometer how much the car has clocked. As long the number getting closed to 80k or 160k, chances are timing belt may be changed or haven't changed. It's better to send to pomen ask them check on your behalf. Get the timing belt replace if need be. This is standard practice of buying a used car, not only Shawie. Basically if the car has nothing abnormal, that means it's going to be fine. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 17 2014, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(MiloIce3in1 @ May 17 2014, 02:37 PM)
ohh.. okeh... tq..

i really want to change the engine oil by myself. but that day i look under the engine, none of my tools can fit that nut. and i found out my ejos bocor. so replaced the cat con and the muffler. while the car on the big lift, i found out got some oil at the left side engine. suspect gearbox oil. so changed the gearbox oil plus i-sint and service the front wheel piston brake.

next will change tyres or probably downgrde to 14''. i see lots of savvy use 14''. i want to use 14'' with thicker tyre. hopefully 185/60/14 with 14'' 5.5 jj is suitable..

and as i read previous comments, suddenly i remember something.. it is a comments from sifu davidke20.. its something like he explaining some sounds but he typed it.. i remembered how i laughed that night. and i keep reading it over and over again.. omg.. thats funny. i dont how to use the keywords search.. i have to start from v1. like the first time i want to know why my aircond hot and at the same time the speedometer sometime idup sometime kong and sometime dia idup rasa mcm naik kuda. sometime dia kong takde jerking. i took me 6 months to settle it down. somesays this la.. itu laa..
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That's me. icon_rolleyes.gif Bearing munyik "ngong ngong ngong ngong ngong ngong ngong ngong " bile bawak keatai certain speed. Lagi laju lagi dia ngong. Tapi itu klu bearing rosak la. If not, the spindle will not make noise. By the time you know the spindle kacau, tayar sudah cabut doh.gif Usually, when your bearing kerap jahanam, that's when the spindle sudah stat haus, that's why the bearing kenot sit still, as a result cipat rosak.

Klu dah jadik amik 14", itu 15" tolong simpan bagi saye. Sile PM saye harga tolak. Tengkiu notworthy.gif
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post May 18 2014, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(drivenheat @ May 17 2014, 10:13 PM)
tak de plak dia naik tgi.. tapi ngah2 speeding fuel pedal trus x respond ..
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Bro, itu meter minyak kat desbod ade main perangai kah? Kejap naik abih, kejap tinggal 1 bar blinking? Klu slalu camtu, mmg fuel pam dah mau kaput sad.gif

Klu TDC sensor, biasenye cuma takleh stat.

Klu petrol filter sumbat, naj stat balik pon takleh dah.
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post May 18 2014, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(MiloIce3in1 @ May 17 2014, 10:10 PM)
Wakakakaka... Thats the one.. Itu cukup lawak sampai bila bila. 
Proton pun tak diagnos itu mcm. Dia cucuk bende yg bawah steering cuma cakap error ajer. Tapi sifu davidke20 ada cara baik nak diagnos. Power beb.. Power.. Itu mmg tak ble lawan.. Bergegar bahu aku ketawa nih. Baca dua tiga kali pastu try kat kete sendiri. Baru afdal.
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Itu saye tulis bagi Plotong GaGa mia, bukan Shawie whistling.gif Shawie single cam, lagi starter single stock solenoid, munyik talak macam GaGa.

GaGa = Wuekekeke vroom (WUEK - solenoid sambung starter gear & pusing stroke1, KEK1 - stroke2, KEK2 - stroke3, KEK3 - stroke4, VROOM - injin idup!)

Shawie = CEK CEK CEK CEK Bem (cek1 - stroke1, cek2 - stroke2, cek3 - stroke3. cek4 - stroke4. Bem - injin idup!)

Nape beza? Sebab relay wiring beza, starter beza.
Starter jenis sama dgn Shawie - Semua Produa Mybi, Ganjil, Kebisa, Plotong GaGa/Ishwaga lama jenis kotak mancis, Datsun 120Y, Toyol ke70 & manyak lagi.

Yang same ngan Plotong GaGa berinjin Kampro, kebanyakan Hongda performans lama, Civig EK, EG, yg berinjin B16, D15, B18, B20. Yang signature representative bagi starter jenis nie, pi carik Hongda Agord SV4, tunggu owner datang stat keta & dengarlah muzik die wub.gif

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Shawie ade stat injin trabelshoting guide agak rumit ciket. Bile wa cukup mase nanti buat 1 more proper write up purposely utk Shawie bih baek.
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post May 18 2014, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(MiloIce3in1 @ May 17 2014, 10:21 PM)
Wow.. Aku pernah tak ble start. Pasal tak tutup lampu. Lepas tolak berpeluh pun tak mau gak. Tarik guna hilux 15 km (plus ronda) sambil masuk gear. Pun tak ble gak. Last last aku cabut bateri. Tunggu 5 minit. Pasang balik. Dia start mcm dia tak pernah ada bagi apa apa masalah kat aku.

Savvy ada guna alternator tak? Aku bab kete ni tak pandai. Aku main agak agak ajer. Mungkin kapasitor atau alternator yg simoan karen tu dah jahanam agaknye. Ble jadik ke sifu davidkee20. Maaf kalau tak membantu.
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Mungkin kelapa bat3 longgar kot? laugh.gif
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post May 18 2014, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(drivenheat @ May 18 2014, 09:01 AM)
ak tekan free je meluncur laju, da slow baru sengguk2..
TDC sensor pun i dunno which bro..
ok.. ak try godeh2..
yup meter minyak main2.. pastu ade bunyi uuuutttt..

nt da ku gudak ku hantar report ya geng..
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Ok con9lan7firm fuel pam dah kacau. Itu "uuuttt" hanya ade bila mase fuel pam masih berfungsi agi. Kalau die tak "uuutt" maka mase tu tiade fungsi. Agipun, "uuutttt" je takpe la. Yg teruk mia macam Plotong GaGa, TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET sampei mati injin doh.gif Bile mase beli keta mmg siok dengar munyik tu, macam lah fighter jet ke ape performans mesin yg handal. Skang dah bertahun² dengar munyik tu, mcm lah dudok atas mesin basuh yawn.gif
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post May 18 2014, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(drivenheat @ May 18 2014, 09:47 AM)
bro itu fuel pump mana duduk la? sakit mata aku cari..
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Ini GaGa aku, yg Shawie tiade gambar. Bukak seat belakang, yg tengah itu menda mcam milo tin mia cover, fuel pam kat sana. Nape? Nak DIY ke? Klu saye tak silap, kalu fuel pam mau bukak belakang torsion beam kena mau kuar, pastu fuel tank kena turun baru boleh bikin sad.gif Tanya NOX la. Biasenye hor, nape fuel pam asyik rosak? Sebab slalu tangki tak cukup isi. Itu fuel pam mia motor sedup angin deswai lah overheat laugh.gif Lagi pon, ini cuntry mia minyak berkualiti dah smua export pi negara laen, yg sendiri pakei mia smua minyak cap petai + air sabun yawn.gif Nak keta sihat? Susah ciket la. Nasebaek Shawie nie murah nak belik. Klu dah belik keta mewah, takut pulak nak pakei petol RON95, bayar 2.7/litre petol yg jenis LEBIH SABUN. Mungkin lambat ciket rosak kot whistling.gif

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post May 18 2014, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(drivenheat @ May 18 2014, 10:42 AM)
thanks abam david.. bunyik wwuutt apa pasal dengar dari depan? kat dalam tada dengar?
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Tidak dapat mengerti kamu. Laen kali tolong bikin video, kasi rakam itu munyik bagi aku. Taupon, nanti hang datang TT Jumaat kita sama² trabelshot (malam Sabtu la, I know the day before manyak importen).
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post May 18 2014, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(MiloIce3in1 @ May 18 2014, 10:54 AM)
tak.. itu nat kalau aku yg hikat, mmg sendat.. mungkin ada kebocoran arus elektrik yg menyebabkan kapasitor tidak dpt lagi menyimpan karen bilaman lampu tak ditutup selama 3 jam. 15km tarik guna hilux, 15 km masuk gear 3 dan 4 kasik dia caj balik. pun tak mau idup. last last bukak dan pasang bateri dia bole plak. mungkin dia reset balik kot. data karen dah abis ade dlm bateri.. hahahaha.. ape aku merepek.. aku dah ngantuk ni
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Ok I guess we go way too much out with our language. I'm not disagreeing you, but looking at the way you do, everything is in order. All the oldschool way of getting a car started has been done. Even the 1 that NOT supposed to do you also did(pull the car in 3rd gear to charge the alternator). I don't know how by disconnecting battery lug and reconnect back can make the car starts, but now I start to believe that is due to TDC sensor. Other than that, I also like to know can't start as in how can't start?

Wuekekekekekekkekekekekekek - no start?
Wuek... bin bin bin bin - Starter pusing skali, then alarm sound, starter no turn anymore?
Wuk..ke..ke..ke..ke..ke.....kekekekekekek(turn faster when you press gas pedal)...... ke..ke..ke..ke..(slow when you release gas pedal)

Usually a car hard to start after 1st attemp failed, the consequences is combustion chamber flood(petrol overflow).

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post May 18 2014, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(MiloIce3in1 @ May 18 2014, 11:00 AM)
bukak jotak hangin tu ble nampak kelibat dia

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dari jarak dekat, sori kamera cap ayam hutan

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This 1 is speed sensor izit? blink.gif Just changed mine last year, RM68 if not mistaken. Forgot ady.
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post May 18 2014, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(MiloIce3in1 @ May 18 2014, 11:21 AM)
as i said i know nothing about repairing, the suggestion came from the plus ronda after they cant start my car after using the cable. so they go to plan b. push it and masuk gear. tak bole jugak, last last they tow me to the nearest exit and left me there. while on the highway, the plus ronda do the charging thing. masuk gear and let it stay in 3rd gear until the next exit. hwever, they failed to start my car. so they left me alone clueless.

there is no sound. mcm bateri abis. kosong.

then entah mcmana aku bukak la bateri. nat ketat. rapat. attach balik pun sama. bateri baru 3 bulan. dah bole start terus carik kedai makan.
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Yup that looked alot like battery lug loosen. It can looked tight and could be still tight, may be bad contact surface nia. U ever seen people car breakdown, they have no idea ape tu rosaked, but still bukak bonnet pusing sini, usik sana pretend like expert. Manatau tiba² dah stat pulak die pon entah ape terjadik laugh.gif

QUOTE(MiloIce3in1 @ May 18 2014, 11:22 AM)
sifu,
tdc and speed sensor is the same thing kan?
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Speed sonsor

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TDC sensor

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post May 18 2014, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 25 2013, 02:58 PM)
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Low rolling resistance
Very low noise
Soft side wall, a little wobbling on hard corner, for example 90km/h whack konar from Lake Field join Bestraya towards Mines.
Dry traction, reasonable. Better than Cibaistone powahbliss 1800 & Siam Astar 100.
Wet traction, no difference than any of those rubbish tayar, but I personally - placebo may be, think it's out perform those branded tyres mentioned.
Fuel consumption, doesn't change at all coz I think my driving already optimum at 14km/litre.

We're talking about RM125/donut. Don't you use other sohigh klass tayar cum & fucuk with me. If you're so farkin rich, please proceed with expansib tayar. Ayam toking about affordable CAINA tayar, for a person budget less on tyres, but with reasonable quality.
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Just a few more days to reach 1 year, my HIFLY upset me with pregnancy sad.gif Total clocked 26002km so far. Photo later to be added


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post May 18 2014, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(drivenheat @ May 18 2014, 04:39 PM)
today my wife pulak driving same path as yesterday..

harini lucky sebab xde mati2.. not sure la today cuaca sejuk hujan.. temp kat 2bar, yesterday temp 3bar.. tapi bila benti temp naik 3bar and hampir mati..

musykil betul.. tadi xde buat ape2 kat fuel pump..

poblem
- susah nk start
- ade bunyik uuuttt
- tengah jalan cuaca panas 3bar mati.. 5 minit start boleh jalan beberapa km mati semula..

esok nk request benkel check below item
- fuel pump
- water pump/water valve
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post May 18 2014, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(NOX @ May 18 2014, 11:11 PM)
Yg picture " menatang belah kiri " tu map sensor.. Very expensive oo.. Original can goes up to rm1000.. 3rd party rm600.. Careful not to cuci with petrol once kaput keta cant start oo.. Once before a savoc.net forumer kill his map sensor using petrol.. Ecu need reading from 3 main sensor. Map, tdc and o2 sensor to analize engine and start. Others sensor in savvy is speed, temp, knock. All need to be tiptop in order ecu to fully utilize max engine stability. Fuhh.. Canggihhhh.. Tapi rosak kalu nsngis, sini 100, sana 300, sinun 1000..

Speed sensor ori is rm170-190 depend where buy. Just change mine few month back. Original renault. If no brand one cost you rm90. Check savvy parts fb group.

Speed sensor kaput itu meter kmh drop 0, engine become ringan..

Oh mr david, u can test again my car, fix the kirol chip correctly plus ob show me the dsta readup when use the chip.. Wrongly install before.. Been cheated by my own mind(placebo efek) this whole time.. Lolz..
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Fuah! Oteh!!! Wa mau test! Wasn't suspect your vacuum leak also. By now it should yield much better output. Meanwhile, bile hang ade balek Semban? Gua tengah pikir nak arrange bulk dyno run in Semban if you're interested lar laugh.gif

p/s: Btw, bape kena bikin itu plug seal? Cat oren tu bikin skali bile repair plug seal? Saye nak Chilli Red boley? wub.gif

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post May 19 2014, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(MiloIce3in1 @ May 19 2014, 01:25 AM)
bad contact, ya.. the most logic.
ok ni speed sensor.. tq chekgu
this is only for amt, am i right?
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AMT or MT, the engine/gearbox is entirely same. The only difference is, AMT has a robot sitting there to manipulate your clutch and shifting work, whereas MT only got 1 clutch cable and 2 shift links, which require human intervention. So, TDC sensor will kaput regardless AMT or MT. Mine also kena ady last year doh.gif
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post May 19 2014, 10:29 PM

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Torsion beam trailing arm PU bush bulk
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Reason: To have firmer trailing arm movement, precise weight shifting. Rear end of the car appear to be more neutral. It can prolong rear damper lifespan, as well as stock spring strength. Generally, polyurethane is plastics, can last extremely long compare to organic rubber bushing.
Side effect: For slow car fast driver, tend to over speed their corners due to over confidence. Neutral, meaning easy to turn, also meaning too much weight shifting can result in oversteer. An event of uncontrollable oversteer = lost control = crash. Tight trailing arm also meaning will have squeeking sound if not lubricate well. Lack of trailing arm movement can be annoying when going through rough roads, can crush your balls. Danger replacement part, for the non fainted heart! Use at your own risk.
Vehicle type: All BT2 & BT3 from PL1 family
Price: Unknown yet
Fabricator: e-lite
Quantity: In pair
Dealing method: Cash before fabrication
Bulk start date: TBA(after price negotiation and firming up the minimum numbers)
Bulk end date: 1 week from start date
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Ladies and gentlemen, show me your interest in this. Put down your name so I can start counting. Fill in the number so we can negotiate a good price. Whoever shown interest, and if in the end the number can't make up to the bulk target, I will personally fill up the nearest pricing value. Good stuff I'm not afraid cannot sell later, infact I'm gonna jack up price for those who missed the bulk later.


Dear all, a billion apologize, I have some 1st hand knowledge passed down from foot work expert. I decided to cancel the bulk purchase for everyone's safety. Should you still be interested, may consult e-lite directly to further the deal and firm up with the best price. So, here's some input I shall share with you all incase if you wish to know.

1) There's a reason, for non existence of trailing arm PU bushing in the market
2) Even if there is, it has to be custom make and not too popular among the aftermarket mod society
3) Torsion beam is not quite flexible compare to MacPherson strut on multi link.
4) Torsion beam movement is entirely relying on trailing arm, moving on radial movement
5) Having a solid PU bush on the trailing arm pivot, can greatly reduced the flexibility of radial movement for the trailing arm
6) Lack of radial movement on uneven road = hop = no grip = lose control

Regardless how good your tyre is; Regardless how great damper/spring suspension kit you've installed; Regardless how well you handle your steering wheel, the tail is in the SKY doh.gif Now I know why LAN ENGINEERING not providing the rear PU bush as standard package unless special request.
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The good HIFLY China make, had served me 26k mileage. I must say, for RM125/donut is extremely affordable, given the low rolling restriction(better fuel consumption), silent and soft, with decent wet traction.

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By the time it got off from the car, the thread marker still have about 40% left. If it wasn't cause by my reckless driving, believe it can last up to 50k km without issue. Take note on the tyre at the bottom has marked where it's bloated due to steel belt snapped. It was caused by long nail punctured my tyre. I guess I'm just having bad luck, otherwise they will continue to serve me another atleast 10~20k I believe.

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New shoes from nestum, so now I have ATR K-Sport on the all 4 corners.

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This, has to be done to protect the new shoes.
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post May 19 2014, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(cktck887 @ May 19 2014, 11:18 PM)
i went to fix my aircon not cold.

i change cooling coil and labour and refill

cost me rm660 , is it over ?

i feel overcharge because i saw coil is 220+ in jiash savvy automotive facebook page
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Since done ady, what to argue? It seems abit pricey though. U sure no touch other thing?

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