hi..jzu want to know whats job .....

rob bank...guarantee rich quick

in what field?
if no experience, the first time one would be the world's oldest profession that is if you are wanted lar

Edited: Just do your best in everything that you do

This post has been edited by egiewan: Jul 17 2006, 07:13 PM

nice...but he is a 'he'

Get straight to the point guys

cannot get straight to the point...coz threadstarter didn't say wat field...

without experience, i mean fresh graduates... those profesional course will have the advantages to get high pay.. provided u're cert is recognised by professional body/some high authorities...

this is wat mostly happen in malaysia, there are jobs that earn quite a lot too... depends on ur luck and several factors

note : dun take the starting salary too seriously , i dun mean that u cant expect an amout but as u work along and gain experiences, ur pay will increase as well
exp : a 10 years experience engineer could earn more than 10K per month ( that's wat i heard from my friends father )

So you think robbing is a good advice?

Investment banker. A higher starting salary than most jobs if not all.

Yeap invesment banker.

I heard actuarists get high income initially too.

Or anything to do with petroleum.

lolx..chick ahh?..gigolo???..lolx..i juz want to know what job can earn more money in malaysia..nowadays so many competitors..haiz...what about lawyer>...if specific in litigation...i think 1 case for normal go court 1 legal fees 10k...juz go court once..win lose ur prob

Only if you're well established in the legal world.

wah, joke also cannot...fine, forget what I said

jianee89, my advise to you...you're completely asking the wrong question.

investment banker...? whut they do?

rob bank also nid modal la..no gun no weapon rob uncle meh?

sales and marketing


die also much faster...

Unless your grades are good, join Accenture etc. They'll pay you quite alot for fresh grads (assuming your term 'beginner' is fresh graduates). Else, go for engineering job.

Price depends on field....but starting is around 1.6k-2k

Thye invest.......they make money grow on trees.

do stockjobbing,but risked for your money

chartered accountants make A LOT of money. and they don't seem to do that much. hmmm. *hint hint

do u know how much times u need to take before acquire the "chartered" word in front of ur name? by that time, u're not beginner/fresh graduate anymore...

not easy to find investment banking jobs in malaysia, especially for fresh graduates.

in singapore, a freshie in CSFB or deutsche can earn up to S$4.5k

Can the threadstarter define 'beginner' e.g. school leaver at Form 3, Form 5, Form 6, Certificate, Diploma, Bachelor, Master, PhD?

By the way, designations such as lawyers and chartered accountants are not for 'beginners' per se as they have additional requirements prior to being admitted as a member of the respective professions.

yeah.. totally agree..
chartered already professional level already, aint beginner anymore

Topic edited

banking....
they apparently accept anyone with a recognized degree of any field as their slave. goes up to 2k and more for basic and after confirmation i.e. increment by hundreds to one thousand depending on banks.
good career prospect, throw away your degree once u get the job and re-learn everything about society.

BA~~~~....
sell buntut la... earn alot wan..

actuarist or investment banker... the pay is based on basic + commission? any degree holder as in fresh grad can apply? can give more details pls? like what's the job about, how to get into that field, what is expected, struggles.. n so on.. expected salary as well..hehehe... thanks

it depends on the bank on which department has a lot of openings. some of my friends were in the insurance, some in loans, credit card sales, trust funds and etc. as far as i know, any fresh grad can apply. the job is really dependent on the vacancies available.
u can just check the papers or submit your resume to the HR department enquiring if they're hiring or not.
as for struggles... normal lah. they pay u 3K and u work like hell. after a while, u become "it's all about the money" person.

My advice to fresh grads: Don't make a big fuss about which job pays you the most. To put it bluntly, I'll call this short sightedness. Think about the medium to longer term la e.g. where do you aspire to be in 5 years time that sort of thing. As if you are going to have the best paying entry-level job and stick with it the rest of your life.

Look at it this way, all professionals ranging from accountants to doctors to lawyers...start off with peanuts. It is your attitude and aspirations which determines whether you deserve top dollars a few years down the road, when you have done some actual work to be evaluated. Otherwise, it is mere wishful thinking at this very moment.

This post has been edited by Creamer: Jul 19 2006, 03:49 PM

be a lampe berger agent.

There is a difference between banking and investment banking.

I-banks are difficult to get into. Even if you're from a university like Imperial College. The pay is very good even for a fresh graduate. Have you heard of Goldman Sachs? Morgan Stanley? Merrill Lynch?

These institutions are also very prestige conscious. As such, it is very difficult for a common university graduate to make it.

No surprise not many ppl heard of Investment banks in malaysia. its very new here. i think only last yr malaysia allow 5 IBs to operate here.

as far as i know they dont hire freshies in malaysia. but if got hire i expect starting pay of at least RM4-5K

actuarial science.. isn't that the one which calculate the risks for insurance? are they related to investment banking too?

lampe berger???????????

There is no such thing as most high paid job, do you really expect your boss to pay you 3k above for a freshie? Maybe yes for some rare case, but just think, if you are boss, will you hire a new guy with such high cost?

I think the most highly paid job is doing sales, becoz there is no limit on how much you can earn. Of coz, sales do not hv bottom limit also.

There are many, not in Malaysia though.

This post has been edited by feynman: Jul 21 2006, 02:32 PM

LB???? Please dun disturb here....

Investment do related with risk wat.... Actually, actuarial science not really just for insurance... Stock market also within their pofessional wat...

If i am wrong, do correct me...

Thanks...

Say....those people who pump in the oil when a car arrive at petrol kiosk?Joke joke~....
Hmm... Try get a degree in management and work in Mc D? If straight got high post then the salary is around 2500+

lolx..mc d?..aiks..so dam cheap lah..erm..better sell credit card..any comment on it?..SELLING CREDIT CARD CAN GET COMISSION + ALLOWANCE

sellin card is kinda difficult as every1 alread own 1 for themselves..
u gonna walk around at some hyper market, asking " sir, wanna apply for credit card, free gift, free annual fees, free watever stuff"

the basic pay is quite low, as u depend quite a lot on sales ( the number of credit card applications).. if a lot ppl apply with u, u earn a lot and vice-versa as well..

it's hard as i seldom see ppl sit down and apply for it..
but u may try ur luck

THEN..WHAT CAN EARN EASY MONEY..LOLX...i mean juz after my spm ...selling hp>

good idea... a lot of dark money inside..
hehe

sell pirated DVD... probably earn more.

yakah?..sei lor..i duwan do illegal stuff but wan earn more money after spm..how leh

backside also illegal lah..any jobs can earn around 5k per month for juz 5days a week...

do investment ... or do drug trading
how can just grad then want to earn 5k

lolx..lolx..lolx...i can..belive me...1st..i will sell credit cards

think only easy...u nvr seen the real world

if have such kind a "good" job then i will quite my current job.

Keep in mind this is E.Essential and not Kopitiam, any further unconstructive comments will be flag for warning

Actuarists are soughted after very very much by the insurance companies and banks. Heard that their starting pay is around RM10-15K per month. There are very very few actuarists around.

yeah.. the pay for actuarist is very high indeed.. in order to become a charted/registered/ qualified actuarist is very difficult as they need to pass the professional paper ( i forgot the name )

.....actuary

10-15k? You mean AFTER they pass all their qualifications?

if i recall its impossible to become an actual actuarist before u have working experience

something like the last 2 paper neeed a worker work experionce

actuarist need to pass 8 professional papers, frmm what I know is malaysia only have about ~20-30 of them. One of my friend who is actuarist already passed 7 papers, he need to take last paper at hong kong. He is a genius, he might be make a record in this field by pass all the professional papers in young age, but that is not easy, need to work/study very hard.

actuary.................

feynman is better that you just directly tell them the proper term is 'actuary' instead of the non-existant 'actuarist', rather than going "actuary...... (insert sweating emoticon" all the time.

If I do so plainly, I'll be marked as a grammar nazi......

This post has been edited by feynman: Jul 25 2006, 12:58 AM

Think we've got to be clear on the form of remuneration we're talking about here.

A fresh grad can start his or her business and make tonnes of money if the venture takes off. However, he or she bears the risk of the business. The money received is in the form of PROFIT. Same goes for professionals who charge FEES. Sky is the limit on how much one can make.

Sales people earn a lot if one is really good. Really, the sky is the limit. I've read of a school leaver who drives a S-Type Jag in the papers, simply because he is blessed with the ability to sell insurance. It's not limited to that....lampe berger, cosway direct selling, etc. These are really people who do not usually declare their income and there is no statistics to provide how much they really earn. Honestly, RM10 - RM20K income is the norm. Money received is known as COMMISSION.

SALARIES are earned by people (proletariats as Marxists would call them) who are employed either by a company or individuals or even the government. They receive regular monthly income plus some perks.

Now, we have to be clear in the case of investment bankers. It depends on whether the banker owns the bank (or is a shareholder of the bank) or if he or she is employed by the bank. Investment bankers usually fund corporate exercises which are aimed at raising capital i.e. IPOs, mergers, acquisitions, etc.

Of course, if you own the bank (such as Nazir Razak of CIMB), you would be pathetic reading and contributing to this forum. There is so much more you can do. The sky's the limit or at least...Warren Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway has set the bar pretty high.

What we're really talking about here are guys who are being employed by investment banks. Yes, they look for brilliant grads. Wall street firms (synonymous with big names like Citigroup, SSB, Merryl Lynch, Lazard, etc) hunt top MBA grads (we're talking Wharton, Harvard, Kellogg here not even your MU, UKM, and other second tier universities) even before they graduate. But these are international investment banks. These graduates are also sought after by large consulting firms.

Closer to home, you don't need to be Harvard material to be working in investment banks in Malaysia lah. Some good foreign university (UM for local uni) with good degree is sufficient. You don't just dive into the IPO stuff initially but is involved mostly in research and drafting business plans for your boss. Starting salary is about RM2500 - 3000 but salary hike is good (unlike working in commercial banks).

No doubt, a lot of these people working in investment banks are smart, dress smart, talk smart and act smart (these banks give you training on how to look and feel smart!), but I wouldn't categorise them as having a good life. Stress is high. Mainteinance of lifestyle is high and at the end of the day, still drive Proton or Korean car, live with their parents or in an apartment. Bolehlah for fresh grad for first 2-3 years. But end of the day, they are still salaried employees/ professionals.

It's still the VCD seller, sales people and those who have the energy and entrepreneurship to make it on their own that makes the bucks! Now you know why we have so many people in suits and ties that end up broke with credit card debts (can't keep up with their lifestyle), and on the other end, we have the ah beng...with big gold chains, rolex, latest mobile phone, driving beemers, evos with a horde of pretty ah lians tagging along. Who do you wanna be?

u probably wanting to try good neighbour singapore...IB hiring freshie at S$3.5k to $5k

This post has been edited by Unbelievable: Aug 9 2006, 02:13 AM

arr.. go into petroleum (geologist)...

i knw smones father who gets paid US$1500 a day =D

1500 x 3.6 x 22 (22 working days in a month) = RM 118,800.

but hes 50 already =D

agree above. i hearing geologist is good earning too..my fren in oil industry

Due to the current high oil prices, oil industry has become one of the hottest industries at the moment. However, once the bubble burst, high paid might no longer be the case.

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actuary

lampe berger or any other direct sales

go to become pilot...
of course not MAS...

you need at least 10-15 years to get this figure

that if u got degree
the lowest is 1.5
if below than that
dun take the job
you not selling ur soul
u got what i mean

like someone said before
just grab the opportunity u got
than after got the experience
you can ask for higher salary

wow working on oilrig?

why issit because you cant find a job?

Actually grads with skills earn more than the standard business & law grads. Think of those with specialist skills in photography, video & animation, specialised health science, etc. The industry needs these people and they can charge RM5K per work done.

IT helpdesk....

at least 2k n above

feynman's comments were correct about the investment banks. Investment banks like GS, morgan stanley, Merill lynch, UBS, Credit Suisse, BarCap, JP morgan and even the smaller boutique investment banks like Lazard are highly selective in choosing fresh graduates. Firstly, you need to have a 2:1 and above results from a reputable universities, oxbridge, LSE or imperial grads are preferred but all candidates who compete with you would be from these unis too. Secondly, they highly prefer candidates with an internship in IB. I previously had interviews with two of the BB and I was rejected in the end . They pay 60,000 USD per annum salary + housing allowances + bonus. But, be ready with 80 to 120 hours of working hours per week.

And in Malaysia, the biggest investment banks are CIMB investment bank, Aminvestment banks, ecm libra avenue, aseam bankers, rhb investment bank, kenanga, osk etc. There are many more. And PLEASE do not expect that malaysia investment banks pay alot to freshies. They dont. In fact, the commercial banks like HSBC and Standard charted pay better starting salary. We are talking about a difference of around 500 to 1k. However, the investment banks in Malaysia pay very very good bonuses. When I was in cimb, bonuses are counted practically in years if you are in the front office role.

Hehe, dont think it will burst in anytime soon. Energy demand from China and India keep surging every year.

Agree that oil and gas always get a very good starting pay. My coursemate, graduated together with him in 2004, I heard he earned USD 4000 per month the moment he joined Schlumberger. Now I heard his salary is ard USD 8000 per month. He alr owned a big house and a car at his Melaka hometown. But all this comes at a price - he's always away from Malaysia, ended in the middle of oil rig abroad, performing 12 hours shift daily.

KN

long hours is one thing.. but as long as you enjoy working at that particular field, and we're satisfied, then ok lah..

bros, i wonder how is it to enter the investment banking route? there isnt a particular degree for it, so, i'm currently studying accounting and finance, should be able to enter IB in the future right?

Right. No specific degree requirement. What you study isn't as important as your grades. You can get in with Law, Economics or even Engineering. What matters is where you get your degree from.

The large ones like GS, MS, and ML conduct on campus interviews in prestigious business schools. However in Malaysia, they do not really have a presence here due to factors I can think of. Try smaller local ones.

If you're interested in investment banker, I advise you to be open minded, and don't have a specific idea of what an investment bank is. Expect to learn a lot, especially in relationships.

Average salaries are about USD 60,000 as an Analyst. Managing Directors got about USD 2 million for bonus alone last year. AVERAGE, take note. Some earn a lot more. This is in the States. I can't find an example here.

One of the highest paid, and also one of the most respected. Unlike MLM and VCD sellers

This post has been edited by allornothing: Dec 8 2007, 02:21 PM

+1

and a free trip to jail plus a ride to hell.
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Nothing is fast ...
if got every one rich lo...

This post has been edited by Negarakuku: Dec 8 2007, 06:55 PM

go track Osama you will get a good reward frm USA

generally,how much does a civil engineer earn?starting from fresh grad all the way up..

RM2k plus minus.

RM4k if as resident engineer.

RM6k if promoted to project manager.

So working in a consultancy firm would net between RM2-4k.

But do note that a civil engineer has to be on site under the sun very often. Not like in drama, sitting in aircond office, attend meeting & sign docs only.

wua.. gerenti masuk lokap makan nasi kari la..

this is offshore based or working at field... unless you are willing to risk yourself... otherwise don't think about it...

my junior who working in tht company... get RM5K monthly, fresh grad, upstream exploration & production related works, office base working environment...

but I think now teachers are paid a lot too

oh...i dont really care working under the sun or what..as long as i can provide enuff 4 my family..n also i've been in athletics rugby n other sports as well dat requires me to play under the sun n surprisingly my skin would only turn red..after a few days i'll be back as usual..hoohoho so no need to worry bout dat part but i dont even care bout dat..by the way next year i'll be in my 1st year degree programme civil eng..

hehe, today i read the star and it states tat working at civil sectors can net u agood pay if u r a fresh graduate. how true is tat do you think?

I think it depends on the economy....

can we have a list?wont that be easier??

stop giving such stupid comments. this is not a kopitiam u know?

My, my but of course if the TS hadn't ask such a stupid question, i wouldn't have to give a stupid answer don't you think? Then again, i can't see how is my comment 'stupid' in anyway cause by drug seller i meant pharmacy. If someone had better english, my post wouldn't have to be deleted...
Down to the topic, if there were really such thing as MOST high paid job for fresh grad, i think everyone would've already been studying that course thus making it the LESS paid job no?
IMO, Its not all about the money. I always feel, if you have the passion for something, automatically you'll succeed. So chase for something YOU like to do. If you like it, then you've succeeded. But of course, the other way to looking at it is, If you like money, no matter what you do, you've succeeded ^^
There is no such thing as fast money, but there is such thing as alot of money. All of it though, comes with an equal price you have to pay. So ask yourself, how do you want to pay this price? Would you like to pay it the 'fun' way? That is enjoying what you do. Or would you like to pay it the join-everybody-be-a-doctor-earn-millions-once-you-graduate way? The choice is entirely up to you

I hope this comment isn't considered 'stupid' for those that aren't so good in english.

This post has been edited by Ryuuga: Dec 18 2007, 12:21 AM

I dont think so for teachers in our country. It may applies if you works in another country. E.g. Singapore

hmm...maybe is pilot?

sell things at LYN can earn 10k per month?

for accounting fresh grads...
rm2.9k with just basic degree but,
rm5.8k if u hav basic degree + professional body qualification(ACCA,MICPA etc)

source from BNM

[[SIZE=7][COLOR=red] Being doctor can earn an awesome salary

For Fresh , after Housemenship , the salary per month is RM6000

Big mistake TS, no specific questions and u're made fun of
For electrical engineers, most of the companies giving RM2.6k basics for fresh grads. For 1st class u get more of cos.

if you're very talented in any art, then i think entertainer's salary is very high too...

Teacher only Rm1800 for Fresh , but the working days seem very relaxing

Geez i thought one of the most stressful jobs are teachers