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post Mar 3 2014, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Mar 3 2014, 10:34 AM)
I use a lot offensive skills.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...;gZY!ZZbcaZ

White mobs, Blizzard + Shock Pulse/Fire Bolts
Elites, Archon
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Wow yours' is big canon wizard man... But Archon not so effective anymore isn't? If half way shooting kena frozen... doh.gif OK go back I'll try other approach. (Now is clearly a frozen wizard)
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post Mar 3 2014, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Mar 3 2014, 10:51 AM)
Wow yours' is big canon wizard man... But Archon not so effective anymore isn't? If half way shooting kena frozen...  doh.gif  OK go back I'll try other approach. (Now is clearly a frozen wizard)
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Yes, no more perma-Archon.

However Archon is still very powerful.
Archon is used solely for killing elites.
Killing 1-2 packs of elites in 20 seconds is not an issue @ Torment 5 solo.
Torment 6 is doable too. But the time taken is longer.

For white mobs, Blizz + Shock Pulse will do the work easily.
Blizz + Shock Pulse can kill elites effectively too. But just not as fast as archon.

There is no more perma freeze.
Yeap, cold damage skills are getting better in current patch.
Even my monk uses cold damage skills now. laugh.gif

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post Mar 3 2014, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Mar 3 2014, 11:01 AM)
Yes, no more perma-Archon.

However Archon is still very powerful.
Archon is used solely for killing elites.
Killing 1-2 packs of elites in 20 seconds is not an issue @ Torment 5 solo.
Torment 6 is doable too. But the time taken is longer.

For white mobs, Blizz + Shock Pulse will do the work easily.
Blizz + Shock Pulse can kill elites effectively too. But just now as fast as archon.

There is no more perma freeze.
Yeap, cold damage skills are getting better in current patch.
Even my monk uses cold damage skills now.  laugh.gif
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Hm... ok lemme try that. Reason is I not so confident using Archon with elites coz if can't kill them in 1 Archon round then I'll be in trouble. Ofcoz the main reason is coz I low DPS sad.gif

Anyway should look into this, I let 4-5 treasure goblins escaped yesterday doh.gif
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post Mar 3 2014, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Mar 3 2014, 11:03 AM)
Hm... ok lemme try that. Reason is I not so confident using Archon with elites coz if can't kill them in 1 Archon round then I'll be in trouble. Ofcoz the main reason is coz I low DPS sad.gif

Anyway should look into this, I let 4-5 treasure goblins escaped yesterday  doh.gif
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For elites that surround you, you use arcane blast.
Huge huge damage. 3-12 millions damage per hit for my current build (depends on how many level I stack in 20 seconds).

For those mobile elites, you shoot from afar.
Once they gets close, punch them with arcane blast.

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post Mar 3 2014, 11:38 AM

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post Mar 3 2014, 12:13 PM

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post Mar 3 2014, 12:30 PM

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post Mar 4 2014, 12:18 PM

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i tot right nw ROS wizzie suck everything in one place then call meteor to cook them..
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post Mar 4 2014, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Mar 3 2014, 12:13 PM)
this guy don't show his skill set lei.
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Mar 4 2014, 04:53 PM)
this guy don't show his skill set lei.
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this abit different
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed6nmz4-Tr8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9K1sdRnRQM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYsWWxDCZPo

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post Mar 6 2014, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Mar 3 2014, 11:01 AM)
Yes, no more perma-Archon.

However Archon is still very powerful.
Archon is used solely for killing elites.
Killing 1-2 packs of elites in 20 seconds is not an issue @ Torment 5 solo.
Torment 6 is doable too. But the time taken is longer.

For white mobs, Blizz + Shock Pulse will do the work easily.
Blizz + Shock Pulse can kill elites effectively too. But just not as fast as archon.

There is no more perma freeze.
Yeap, cold damage skills are getting better in current patch.
Even my monk uses cold damage skills now.  laugh.gif
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I tried out your build, and it works well! Now only I realized fire bolt got much higher damage than frost bolt. Anyway I still maintained as frost wizard but leave the freezing part to blizzard and Comet. (I need this, or else y DPS too low and can't kill white mob efficiently) Then do Archon when facing elite thumbup.gif
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post Mar 6 2014, 11:06 AM

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My DH is struggling with Torment 3, I can do fine up to Torment 2 only.

My profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/tanghm-6198/hero/948248

The calculation in profile is wrong, it didnt account for the bonus stats from Paragon 2.0



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post Mar 12 2014, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(kwwk87 @ Mar 2 2014, 01:53 PM)
Arcane "Frozen" Orb is the new Wiz now.
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thats what I am since PTR biggrin.gif
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post Mar 12 2014, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(squall0833 @ Mar 12 2014, 03:46 PM)
thats what I am since PTR biggrin.gif
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hm... can share a bit the benefit of using frozen orb?

I tried that before but then now using Meteor: Comet during boss fight, because that's a chance it will freeze the boss in place.

For clearing white mob, I use meteor shower + blizzard... blush.gif
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post Mar 12 2014, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Mar 12 2014, 03:52 PM)
hm... can share a bit the benefit of using frozen orb?

I tried that before but then now using Meteor: Comet during boss fight, because that's a chance it will freeze the boss in place.

For clearing white mob, I use meteor shower + blizzard...  blush.gif
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this really depend on the gear and build u choose to use

well i have:

Cold Blood passive --- which gives extra 10% damage from any source to the chilled or frozen targets
Astral passive --- for extra Arcane Power
Glass Cannon -- 10% for all damage
Shock Pulse + Piercing Orb or Electrocute + Arcane power per hit (good and fast arcane generator for my wand)

Gear stats :
wand - 0.25 attack speed, gain Arcane Power on Crit hits
source - 6% cold,fire,lightning dmg, extra arcane power and gain arcane power on crit hits
amulet - increase 15% Cold damage
boot - increase 14% Cold damage
bracer - increase 15% Arcane Orb damage

my skill set:
Familiar - extra all damage

Magic Weapon - extra dmg with shield generate on attack

Energy Shield - more crit chance when activated

Any skill I feel like to use - Twister , Blizzard, Meteor, etc (i find meteor shower deal better dmg compare to blizzard even with cold dmg increment from gears)

Shock Pulse + Piercing Orb or Electrocute + arcane Generate

Arcane Orb - Frozen Orb




I always cast a frozen orb before everything, when I cast a frozen orb , most of the mob around it will get chilled, deal extra damaged with any other dmg, it's like moving aoe damage and cost less arcane, works better than blizzard that only stay in same position

I can cast 4 Frozen Orbs with a full arcane power capacity, and renegerate arcane power from zero to full only 1-2sec with electrocute (piecing orb works better if got massive mobs)

i can also spam meteor or blizzard as much as I want, but use only frozen orb deal much more dmg because i have 29% cold dmg and 15% arcane orb damage from gear

if mobs contact frozen orb directly, they deal very high dmg, if only near it also deal pretty high dmg


as for boss fight, frozen orb deal pretty good dmg too,

if need freezing boss, I use blizzard with the rune that has chance to frozen enemy, keep spamming it on boss

works on butcher and act 3 beast boss though biggrin.gif


it seems there is a internal cooldown to get frozen on any elite, champions and bosses, you cannot always freezing them

maybe like few seconds

This post has been edited by squall0833: Mar 12 2014, 04:31 PM
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post Mar 12 2014, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(squall0833 @ Mar 12 2014, 04:26 PM)
this really depend on the gear and build u choose to use

well i have:

Cold Blood passive --- which gives extra 10% damage from any source to the chilled or frozen targets
Astral passive --- for extra Arcane Power
Glass Cannon -- 10% for all damage
Shock Pulse + Piercing Orb or Electrocute + Arcane power per hit (good and fast arcane generator for my wand)

Gear stats :
wand - 0.25 attack speed, gain Arcane Power on Crit hits
source - 6% cold,fire,lightning dmg, extra arcane power and gain arcane power on crit hits
amulet - increase 15% Cold damage
boot - increase 14% Cold damage
bracer - increase 15% Arcane Orb damage

my skill set:
Familiar - extra all damage

Magic Weapon - extra dmg with shield generate on attack

Energy Shield - more crit chance when activated

Any skill I feel like to use - Twister , Blizzard, Meteor, etc (i find meteor shower deal better dmg compare to blizzard even with cold dmg increment from gears)

Shock Pulse + Piercing Orb or  Electrocute + arcane Generate

Arcane Orb - Frozen Orb


I always cast a frozen orb before everything, when I cast a frozen orb , most of the mob around it will get chilled, deal extra damaged with any other dmg, it's like moving aoe damage and cost less arcane, works better than blizzard that only stay in same position

I can cast 4 Frozen Orbs with a full arcane power capacity, and renegerate arcane power from zero to full only 1-2sec with electrocute (piecing orb works better if got massive mobs)

i can also spam meteor or blizzard as much as I want, but use only frozen orb deal much more dmg because i have 29% cold dmg and 15% arcane orb damage from gear

if mobs contact frozen orb directly, they deal very high dmg, if only near it also deal pretty high dmg
as for boss fight, frozen orb deal pretty good dmg too,

if need freezing boss, I use blizzard with the rune that has chance to frozen enemy, keep spamming it on boss

works on butcher and act 3 beast boss though biggrin.gif
it seems there is a internal cooldown to get frozen  on any elite, champions and bosses, you cannot always freezing them

maybe like few seconds
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I have been using forked lightning, paralysis, frozen solid blizzard.

cant perma stun, been thinking if we have enough cooldown n resource reduction would frodt nova be viable again?
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post Mar 13 2014, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(squall0833 @ Mar 12 2014, 04:26 PM)
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wow nice one, thanks for sharing thumbup.gif

Well I totally forgot that's a rune for blizzard can do freeze! OK will use that.

I notice that meteor shower deal crazy dmg is because each of them deal 227% wep dmg, then it rains 7 of them, all AOE. If certain mob got caught in more than 3... shocking.gif

I checked out frozen orb, it deals only 393% wep dmg, hm... issit some perk make it stronger? (Comet deals 590.25%)
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Mar 3 2014, 09:41 AM)
Yes. It could be your gears, skill set up and EHP.

For CM Wiz with 250K-300K DPS or Archon Wiz with 350K-400K DPS, Torment 4 is easy.
Those Wiz with higher than above mentioned DPS, they can do Torment 5 and even Torment 6 with legacy gears, provided they have sufficient EHP (i.e. Amethyst on helm).

P/S Forgot to mention, you need an LS wep.
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For your information, LS in ROS has already been nerfed gao gao as higher the character grow, unless you talking about Life on Hit, which could help you survive well in T4, im cm wiz b4 with mostly legacy gear, 260 dps, but hp only 50k, i could survive in t4, but with party around, the monster beeing stronger, oftern owned by the elites. However my skil build are

Archon - Improved archon
Frost Nova - Cold Snap(before i use bone chill but since cm gone)
Magic Weapon - Force Weapon
Frost armor - Chilling Armor
Left click - Magic Missile(Glacial Spike)
Right click - Arcane Orb(Frozen Orb)

Passive - Evocation,Cold Blooded, Blur

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Also I have found passive skill Dominance kinda useless at it only stand for 3 second for the stack. How about when you killed 2 small mobs easily but bump into some big guy that can knock you back a few miles before you can continue spam skill to kill mobs continously. Not very efficient.
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