Hi, these are my suggestions.

- Try thinner engine oil from 20w-50 to 15w-40. (If your engine is very good, you can even try 10w-30).
- Install vacuum gauge to train your right foot.
- Check spark plugs and change them if too old

Sharing mine.

Proton Exora 1.6L Turbo
Petronas RON 97 (Rm 2.25/L)

Shah Alam -> Port Dickson -> Shah Alam.

* Traffic jam at Seremban toll, and some traffic jam in PD.
* Speeding 120-130 Km/H at Sban-PD highway and 130-140Km/h KLIA-Shah Alam (a Vellfire 2.4L was tailgating me)
* From Shah Alam to PD was on Petronas Primax RON 97 (initially fill up RM 60), but coming back, fill up RM50 somewhere in Nilai , Petron RON 95.

*Update* - Based on usage of RM 60 (26.66L) of RON 97.
- 37.13% - Travel in City area about 75KM.
- Remaining 63.68% - Highway (Shah Alam- PD) + City (PD) driving
= Total Clocked 249.7Km when I habis my ROn 97.

Average FC: 9.7L/100KM (starting point at Shah Alam, end back at somewhere in Petron Negeri Sembilan)
Average FC: 13.2L/100KM (Full City Driving)
Combined Cycle = 10.68L/100KM (9.36KM/L)

I hope my results based on computer read out is a valid representation of actual mileage.

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Mar 24 2015, 01:33 PM

oh well i learn to live with it. i can understand that it needs to lug around 1.5tons (kerb weight, havent include passengers)
and furthermore..the turbo makes it more addictive to drive more aggressive. with all that performance, petrol has to be sacrificed a little.

i dont treat it like a 1.6 NA Engine. otherwise i will be even more disappointed with the high fc.

i havent tried driving with less off-boost though. apparently the smaller the turbo engine cc the more it needs to spend time boosting (during coty driving).

How about this:.
Car type: Honda City IDSI 1.5 - Non Hybrid.



Subang - Bukit Mertajam (considered 95% highway and some travelling in Bukit Mertajam)



Refilled full tank at Nibong Tebal (less than half a tank remaining), then head back to KL , got stuck in a jam while heading back to Subang.
Photo shot while back in Subang.

Best FC I've seen is 18.x KM/L full highway but dropped to 17.x Km/l as soon as I hit the Bukit Mertajam roads.

Average speed on highway 105-110Km/H.

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Dec 24 2015, 01:34 PM

Hi Stimix.
I would definitely have to agree with you that doing 15Km/L and above in a 2.5L executive car is a great achievement over any 2.0L cars.
Even my other car, the Exora, has difficulty reaching beyond the 12Km/L mark (but I am confident it can do a FC close to Nissan Serena Hybrid) on highway.

Just that I look at things differently. And I do apologise if it may offend your opinion.

This is how I look. I buy a hybrid to save fuel.
However at RM 175K vs another car which has a lower OTR price tag and yet saves fuel as-close as the Hybrid, doing 15KM/L.

(Note: I have to point out that the Hybrid will still outperform the conventional petrol engine in FC).

The only new cars I could think off is :
i) Honda Jazz Hybrid - RM 89,912.15
ii) Honda City Non Hybrid - RM 89,467.20 (V spec, as a valid comparison)

Thats a RM 85K of price difference. That makes up a whopping 41,463 Litres (based on RM 2.05/L, lets say) of fuel.
And yet I still can save fuel. Its a sad thing that Honda no longer produces new models with the IDSI engine.

I know well enough it's also not a fair direct comparison between an executive car vs a smaller Sedan.

BTW I sat before in my friend's Camry Hybrid. Lovely ride. But its only the price tag makes me wonder whether its worth while. However for a businessman which travels alot, this will definitely be a compliment

Cheers! Merry Christmas

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Dec 25 2015, 05:04 PM

Bro, IDSI is not referring to the gearbox la. Its the engine. So mine is IDSI engine plus CVT gearbox.

Click on spoiler to see the Honda City model I have.



Mine is 1 generation earlier City, before they totally change to i-Vtec engine plus 5 speed auto tranny la.

You can read the IDSI engine here:
http://asia.vtec.net/Series/FitJazz/lseries/

Selamat siang pak.

Which part of indonesia are you from?
I bet your fc looks bad (but its normal actually) due to the macet and lower quality of petrol

Wira 1.3 GLI

*Some of highway but mostly town driving.
*Constantly 2 adults (including driver) and 40 kilos of cargo (yes I weight them). a/c consistently on.
* Running on petronas RON 95
* Engine oil - Petronas Urania 15W-40.

Calculated about average 10.6KM/L - 10.8KM/l based on Rm 1.60/L (March 2016)

Okay la, not that superbly economical but acceptable.

It's already very good for a 1.4L turbo+supercharged engine, plus only 1288KG kerb weight.
My 138hp 1.6L Exora turbo with 1500KG kerb weight (means without any passengers and luggage), is doing around 8.1-8.2L/100Km doing 110-120 , 100% highway.
If I do 140Km/h constantly, my average FC meter will show around close to 10l/100kM.

1) Model : Perodua Axia 2017 e spec (Manual), VVTI version.
2) Petrol Used : Petronas Primax
3) Engine Oil Used : Perodua 0w-20 fully synthetic
4) Fuel Consumption average: 17.x km/l . Around 420-430km for each full tank.
5) Driving Condition : mostly City driving , sometimes highway.
6) Average Speed/Max rpm : Dont know, just drive. Hardly follow eco light. Car also no rpm meter.
7) Latest mileage : 15k
8) Modification : None
9) Tank Size : 33 litres but if E light comes on, can fill up to 25-26litres.

Best record. 163km for 7.55litres. Thats 21.6km/l. No joke.
Refuel at Petronas Taman Melati, go Mont kiara, go up Genting, come down, 2 bars down, refuel full tank at Petronas Usj 4.
Very close to Perodua's claim 22.5km/l for manual.

Otherwise at average 17km/l is already good liao.

I thought Axia can pump 25-26L ?
Mine when light comes on can pump 25L.
And mine 25l usually does 420-440km mix city driving.

Oh mine is Axia E spec VVTI version.

Not bad. Does yours come with the Auto Idle Start Stop feature?
RM 0.122 / km , based on RM 2.20/litre (this week) = 18KM/L

Thats almost as good as Axia 1.0L Manual. Cause Im getting 17KM/L in mostly town driving.
Still love my Axia.
Manual rockz !

1) Model : 2017 Perodua Axia E Manual
2) Petrol Used : 50% Petronas 50% Caltex
3) Engine Oil Used : Perodua Full Synthetic 0w-20
4) Fuel Consumption : 20KM/L Long distance drive (maybe if drive full highway can reach 21-22KM/L)
5) Driving Condition : 90% Mostly Highway and kampung road, only 10% city driving in Muar and Batu Pahat.
6) Average Speed/Max rpm : 100KM/H max on Highway.
7) Latest mileage : 45,000KM
8) Modification : Bone Stock.
9) Tank Size : 35L (But when Low light comes on, Fills up only to 26L)

From Subang - Muar - Drive around Muar town, then next day Muar - Batu Pahat - Drive around Batu Pahat - Back to Muar.
Then last day, Muar - Use Lebuhraya Muar - Melaka then hit the NS highway until pass Seremban R&R then Low fuel comes on already.

Total distance from Subang until refuel at Labu (BHPetrol RnR Seremban North Bound) - 516KMs
(If Proton can do 500K in a single tank, why not Perodua, with a smaller tank, but I don't anti Proton because I also have a Proton).

Okey I'm envious abit of your Accord.
But have to factor also that your accord has a more powerful engine yet almost or abit heavier than my Exora kerb weight

My Exora Turbo recently did a round trip KL-Kuantan.

Fuel: Shell RON 95
Mileage: 49K (year 2014) . Yes. 49K.
Engine Oil: Bosch X7 Premium 5w40 Full Syn.

Only did 10.1L/100kM or 9.9KM/L - Total round trip average
Condition: Highway + travelling some trunk roads in Kuantan + traffic jam back in KL
If I speed continuously 140 the meter shows around 9.4L/100KM (10.6KM/L).

And no, Exora doesn't have ECO mode. To drive ECO, have to drive not more than 100. And thats something difficult to do.

New update.

1) Petrol Used : Petronas Primax RON 95 & 97
2) Engine Oil Used : Shell Helix HX5 5w30
3) Fuel Consumption average:
Latest fuel consumption:
ROn 95 - 231 KM for 16L = 14.4KM/L (Drive until last bar also gone )
ron 97 - 264.7KM for 16L = 16.5KM/L

4) Driving Condition : Mix driving: City driving , sometimes highway.
5) Latest mileage : 73K

Running Ron 97 for the second time , will observe the results.

Whats the average FC for your 530e on the whole?
5.8 l/100km equals to 17KM/L , about similar FC of Camry hybrid.
Please correct me if I were to be wrong bout it.

2017 Perodua Axia E spec Manual. VVTI facelift version.

Update:
1) Petrol Used : Petronas Primax RON 95
2) Engine Oil Used : Shell Helix HX5 5w30 (oil overdue)
3) Fuel Consumption average:
Latest fuel consumption:
Petronas RON 95
Full tank , 23L = 353.3 Km for 23L = 15.4KM/L

4) Driving condition : Mostly city driving, some highway , but drive aggressively .
5) Latest mileage : 76K

To note: Oil already nearing 10K mark. Time to change soon.
Front tyres just changed 1 month ago.

How aggressive?

Drive down the highway above 110..like 130-140.
Then once in a while floor the accelerator in 3rd just to accelerate quicker (car not underpower , more like addicted to VVTi powahh) .

Now FC better liao. Changed to 0w20. Can get 17Km/L city driving.
Trying to follow "Eco" light as much as possible though kinda tough..
Less of speeding beyond 100 on highway.

Then something is seriously wrong with your engine. Like worn out or something. 10Km/l on a 1.3L engine (yeah I know its Campro) is out of spec.

Another thing is - For best FC, go for 10w30 oil, If you willing to try - 0w20.
Also fuel brand does affect (some) FC. Need to check what BLM users uses that gives the best FC.

Thats where some of the newer cars like in Honda, and Toyota (and Perodua) have Eco lights to tell the driver how economical is their right foot.
No need guess where is the sweet spot, the ECU calculates and tells the driver.
Regardless manual or auto.

On most cars they have Instant FC meters for the driver to gently press as light as possible.
Though it needs more eyes and "concentration" on the meter to get the "lowest" FC reading possible.

Looking at RPm doesnt work. Trust me.
My basic Axia E doesnt even have a tach. Only ECO light and engine sound to judge.