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rav3n82
post Mar 4 2014, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ Mar 4 2014, 11:47 AM)
cheh  laugh.gif vapor chamber ma, of course no heat air dispense to chassis
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Depends. Reference GTX 780 actually uses a vapor chamber, but as it has a single centrifugal fan configuration (blower), the heat is dispensed to the outside of your casing. Some other vapor chamber based coolers (e.g Sapphire Vapor-X) actually uses axial fans, and the hot air is dispensed and circulated back into your casing.
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post Mar 4 2014, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 4 2014, 12:43 PM)
Depends. Reference GTX 780 actually uses a vapor chamber, but as it has a single centrifugal fan configuration (blower), the heat is dispensed to the outside of your casing. Some other vapor chamber based coolers (e.g Sapphire Vapor-X) actually uses axial fans, and the hot air is dispensed and circulated back into your casing.
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l read up that reference will blow the heat outside of the chassis by the card itself instead of dispense heat into the chassis thus reference usually hotter nod.gif
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post Mar 4 2014, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ Mar 4 2014, 12:46 PM)
l read up that reference will blow the heat outside of the chassis by the card itself instead of dispense heat into the chassis thus reference usually hotter  nod.gif
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You're correct. That's why reference cards (with blower style cooler) is very suitable for small (ITX) builds, since it does not heat up your casing. The hot air is expensed (almost entirely) outside of the casing.

It's actually harder to design a reference (blower) cooler, since manufacturer needs to balance between thermal and acoustic footprint. And there is only a single centrifugal fan, which usually blows out a lot of air, but also runs very loud. This is an area where Nvidia currently excels at, as you can see the Titan-style cooler used on reference 780 / 780 Ti / Titan / Titan Black is rather efficient compared to the horrible reference cooler used by AMD in its Hawaii based cards. And also the GK110 is a much more efficient chip (due to the Kepler microarchitecture) compared to Hawaii.
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post Mar 4 2014, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 4 2014, 12:52 PM)
You're correct. That's why reference cards (with blower style cooler) is very suitable for small (ITX) builds, since it does not heat up your casing. The hot air is expensed (almost entirely) outside of the casing.

It's actually harder to design a reference (blower) cooler, since manufacturer needs to balance between thermal and acoustic footprint. And there is only a single centrifugal fan, which usually blows out a lot of air, but also runs very loud. This is an area where Nvidia currently excels at, as you can see the Titan-style cooler used on reference 780 / 780 Ti / Titan / Titan Black is rather efficient compared to the horrible reference cooler used by AMD in its Hawaii based cards. And also the GK110 is a much more efficient chip (due to the Kepler microarchitecture) compared to Hawaii.
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linus tech video showcase how to remove the titan cooler, l can see it is a quite complicated design by itself nod.gif but seriously nvidia could have paint the cooler in all black for titan black instead of the original color theme sweat.gif
they better don carry this vapor chamber to 800 series shakehead.gif

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post Mar 4 2014, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ Mar 4 2014, 01:04 PM)
linus tech video showcase how to remove the titan cooler, l can see it is a quite complicated design by itself  nod.gif but seriously nvidia could have paint the cooler in all black for titan black instead of the original color theme  sweat.gif
they better don carry this vapor chamber to 800 series  shakehead.gif
*duno how to post utube on forums  doh.gif
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Cost. Manufacturer will hardly want to create a new design (even just black paintjob) just for one card, and for one that may actually sell the least.

Vapor chamber still remains one of the best cooling solution, especially for single fan blower. Why so skeptical over vapor chamber? biggrin.gif Vapor-X and supposedly even Tri-X also uses vapor chamber technology. laugh.gif
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post Mar 4 2014, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 4 2014, 01:27 PM)
Cost. Manufacturer will hardly want to create a new design (even just black paintjob) just for one card, and for one that may actually sell the least.

Vapor chamber still remains one of the best cooling solution, especially for single fan blower. Why so skeptical over vapor chamber? biggrin.gif Vapor-X and supposedly even Tri-X also uses vapor chamber technology. laugh.gif
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the tri-x looks promising and tempting does it emit led? drool.gif drool.gif
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post Mar 4 2014, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ Mar 4 2014, 01:40 PM)
the tri-x looks promising and tempting does it emit led?  drool.gif  drool.gif
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LOL, tak ada LED. IINM, only the Toxic R9 280X got LED I think. drool.gif
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post Mar 4 2014, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 4 2014, 01:42 PM)
LOL, tak ada LED. IINM, only the Toxic R9 280X got LED I think. drool.gif
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for a moment l thought tri-x emits green led like lightning doh.gif doh.gif

*raydenex 290 tri-x laugh.gif
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post Mar 4 2014, 02:51 PM

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that's just my NZXT hue led reflection on the card biggrin.gif
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no....!! doh.gif doh.gif l had been deceived, the led so lighting so strong!? even the gc itselfs shining, gonna buy few strips to play play nod.gif
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QUOTE(leongkokloon @ Mar 4 2014, 11:21 AM)
U can feel the heat? im using Asus GTX 780.. and i dont feel the heat, mine also hits 80'C hmm.gif
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yes oh bro, when it hit 80'C , I can feel warm and hot rear side casing near the connector.

and i open side cover and touch the graphic card also hot.
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 4 2014, 12:41 PM)
You're running at non air-con room? How is your cable arrangement inside your casing?

I am running the same card as yours, Asus 760 DCUII and max temp is only 69C at BF4. Non air-conditioned room. Fans are running at stock (auto). I suppose 80C is very unusual and already on the high side. The highest I ever observed was around 72C running 3D Mark.

And no, DCUII cooler does not expense the hot air directly to back of your casing. The hot air is simply expensed and then circulated back into your case, as most axial fan coolers do. That's why it's important to have a very good casing airflow. But GK104 is not known to have a very high thermal output, meaning it will not heat up your casing/surroundings.
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non air-con room bro, I am using CM Storm Scout 2 casing. cables all hide behind motherboard side cover.

2 fans for front intake. 1 enermax t.b. vegas (adjustable fan speed) fan for exhaust.
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QUOTE(ronron @ Mar 4 2014, 03:00 PM)
yes oh bro, when it hit 80'C , I can feel warm and hot rear side casing near the connector.

and i open side cover and touch the graphic card also hot.
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i also open and touch before... not really hot la.... i got once using this 780 temp reach 91'C laugh.gif that is hot... Hahaha

80'C is just warm for me

im using a smaller casing than urs CM 690II 1x 120mm front + 1x 120mm back (exhaust) + 2x 120mm top (exhaust) dont seem hot to me LOL

All fan using Bitfenix LED 120mm thumbup.gif

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post Mar 4 2014, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(leongkokloon @ Mar 4 2014, 03:05 PM)
i also open and touch before... not really hot la.... i got once using this 780 temp reach 91'C laugh.gif that is hot... Hahaha

80'C is just warm for me

im using a smaller casing than urs CM 690II 1x 120mm front + 1x 120mm back (exhaust) + 2x 120mm top (exhaust) dont seem hot to me LOL

All fan using Bitfenix LED 120mm  thumbup.gif
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wah. 90'C doh.gif

my 2pcs front intake fan is same with u too, Bitfenix Spectre LED 120mm x 2pcs

in your opinion, If I added 2 more fans as intake at the side cover, will it helps?


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post Mar 4 2014, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(ronron @ Mar 4 2014, 03:19 PM)
wah. 90'C  doh.gif

my 2pcs front intake fan is same with u too, Bitfenix Spectre LED 120mm x 2pcs

in your opinion, If I added 2 more fans as intake at the side cover, will it helps?
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Yeah 90'C... i change some settings via that ASUS Software

But just curious 2x intake front? should be ok already....hmmm add 2 more shud be intake i think....

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post Mar 4 2014, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(leongkokloon @ Mar 4 2014, 03:23 PM)
Yeah 90'C... i change some settings via that ASUS Software

But just curious 2x intake front? should be ok already....hmmm add 2 more shud be intake i think....
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How many output (exhaust) fans do you have?
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post Mar 4 2014, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 4 2014, 05:05 PM)
How many output (exhaust) fans do you have?
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1 intake front, total 3 exhaust (1 back + 2 top)

but i reset the settings for card now constant 80-81'C sweat.gif

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post Mar 4 2014, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(leongkokloon @ Mar 4 2014, 05:08 PM)
1 intake front, total 3 exhaust (1 back + 2 top)

but i reset the settings for card now constant 80-81'C  sweat.gif
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Usually, on stock settings, the GTX 780 will run at max 80 - 81C due to the GPU Boost 2.0 requirement (default temperature target).
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post Mar 4 2014, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 4 2014, 05:24 PM)
Usually, on stock settings, the GTX 780 will run at max 80 - 81C due to the GPU Boost 2.0 requirement (default temperature target).
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hahaha i adjusted once i got it... then readjusted when i see the temperature
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