Browse through and notice a few threads on bad/worst developers but would like to keep this thread on general basis and public's perceptions on them.
To start the ball rolling, would try to list down as many developers as possible here and please try to provide feedbacks (eg. good, bad, high-end, expensive, affordable, quality, delays, etc)

AMJ (A&M)
very bad workmanship, look at kemuning greenville. - tnang

AMPHIL

AP LAND

BANDAR RAYA DEVELOPMENTS BERHAD

BCB

BELLWORTH DEVELOPMENTS SDN BHD

BENETON PROPERTIES SDN BHD

BERJAYA LAND

BOUSTEAD
above average delivery, good workmanship, value proposition 4 star. - HER

BINAPURI

BUKIT KIARA PROPERTIES

CB LAND

COUNTRIES HEIGHT

DK MY PROPERTIES

E&O
concept was good in the beginning now getting a little stale, quality so so, management so so.. - nookie188

ECOWORLD

EMKAY

ENGTEX PROPERTIES SDN BHD

EXSIM

F3 CAPITAL

GAMUDA LAND
I used to have shoplot with them. workmanship very lowyar, crack here crack there after 1 yr. Many things to patch. Have to think carefully before buy from them again. - linkor
so far with them for 2 projects, KK, Bandar Botanic, acceptable. - tnang
quality yat lou...happy throughout...but facade wise, not cutting edge and eye dropping... - BEANCOUNTER

GLOMAC
management poor, response so so only, workmanship average, value proposition 3 star. - HER

GUOCOLAND
workmanship acceptable, design not too bad.. - nookie188

HAP SENG LAND

HUA YANG

I&P
like IOI prop, but worst lah. U know lah, ask them to work is very very difficult one. - linkor
aiyo..for defect rectification wait until neck also panjang at least 2 kaki!..slowly wait lah.. - nookie188

IJM LAND

IOI PROPERTIES
Looks good, but will squeeze every single cent from their launch price. After completion, refuse to spend extra money for buyers. Example 16 Sierra, still no Unifi connection due to developer refusal to pay the money to Telekom. - robert82
They deliver house and infra, nothing more. Unifi - no. landscape - as it is. But they are reasonable if your demand is reasonable (no need BIG buck). They do fix your house if needed & reasonable. After sales follow up are good too. But limited to "reasonable low cost" thing only. - linkor

IREKA

KEN TTDI

LBS

LOH & LOH
acceptable...pretty neat. - BEANCOUNTER

MAGNA VILLA

MAHSING

MALTON

MAMMOTH EMPIRE
makes u appreciate Monoland - BEANCOUNTER

MAYLAND
make u appreciate when compared to Empire and Monoland - BEANCOUNTER

MCT
undercon, heard and saw their workmanship tak boleh pakai. Scary. Hoping outcome not too bad. - linkor

MITRALAND

MK LAND

MKH
workmanship average; defect rectification slowww - ABCDE90

MONOLAND
terrible... - BEANCOUNTER

MRCB

NADAYU
management sucks, response very bad, workmanship not much to be desired, value proposition 0 star. - HER

NAZA

ONG CHONG REALTY

OSK PROP
exterior workmanship is bad, cheapo stuff but premium price. Lots of complains on workmanship, their non response attitude. Never bothered about rectification. - WannaGetBuffed

PARAMOUNT
above average delivery, average workmanship, value proposition 3 star. - HER

PERDANA PARK CITY
undercon. But so far so good. responsive and friendly sales team. - linkor

PERFECT EAGLE

PJD PROPERTIES

PKNS
acceptable. - tnang

PLENITUDE
good workmanship, no issues generally .. - nookie188

PPC GLOMAC
Sucks..... late delivery, poor workmanship, poor advertise, poor planning, poor in everything - HouseHunter

PUTRAJAYA HOMES

QUILL

SCP

SEE HOY CHAN (BANDAR UTAMA)

SDB

SHAYLER GROUP

SIME DARBY
Overall good, but I have never come to a point where I have big issue with them, workman ship ok ok lah. They deliver.- linkor
workmanship generally ok but defect rectification , damn slow - nookie188

SM LAND

SP SETIA
reasonable good management team. Average workmanship. They do deliver as promised. - linkor
good management. - tnang
quality generally mah mah...banyak rough edges...untidied workmanship...but after sales service yat lou - BEANCOUNTER

SUNSURIA

SUNWAY
only sound good - charge future prices, workmanship so so, defect rectification sucks, poor customer service ! always leaking problem..their so called green certification is a joke...for me never ever.. - nookie188

SYMPHONY (BOLTON)
concept not too bad BUT end product below average - defect rectification can take up to one year.! - nookie188

TALAM
you know i know... more than 15 years, belum siap. (remarks : melaka project). - tnang

TA PROPERTIES

TAN & TAN (IGB)
management is consistently good..quality average - nookie188
management very good, response very quick, workmanship also good, value proposition 4 star. - HER

TANMING
undercon. workmanship #1. much like own renovation ! thumbs up to them. - linkor

TH PROPERTIES

TRINITY

TROPICANA (DIJAYA)

UDA

UEM LAND (SUNRISE)
Committed developer to execute project per plan. Historically has good track record with some Mont Kiara development. Township development success remains to be seen, but early sign from Symphony Hills is encouraging. - robert82
above average good to their building management and standard. I have strata shops with them, they are strict but it's benefits all. High standard of tools and finishing. - linkor

UM LAND

UOA
quality yat lou...but building n facade...lou tou - BEANCOUNTER

VILLAMAS

WCT

WORLDWIDE

YNH PROPERTIES

YTL
management very good, very good response, workmanship just average, value proposition 5 star. - HER

YUK TUNG

ZALAM

The above list is not exhaustive and covers mainly KV developers.
Please feel free to add and provide feedback.

This post has been edited by kochin: Nov 25 2014, 10:18 AM

IOI PROPERTIES: Looks good, but will squeeze every single cent from their launch price. After completion, refuse to spend extra money for buyers. Example 16 Sierra, still no Unifi connection due to developer refusal to pay the money to Telekom.

UEM LAND (SUNRISE): Committed developer to execute project per plan. Historically has good track record with some Mont Kiara development. Township development success remains to be seen, but early sign from Symphony Hills is encouraging.

hahaha, Trinity Group or Trinity Corporation. Very very different you know.

i only know one Trinity legally.

PPC Glomac. Sucks..... late delivery, poor workmanship, poor advertise, poor planning, poor in everything... I think a small developer better than ppc glomac a lot....

IOI Prop - They deliver house and infra, nothing more. Unifi - no. landscape - as it is. But they are reasonable if your demand is reasonable (no need BIG buck). They do fix your house if needed & reasonable. After sales follow up are good too. But limited to "reasonable low cost" thing only.

SIME - Overall good, but I have never come to a point where I have big issue with them, workman ship ok ok lah. They deliver.

SUNRISE (before uem) - above average good to their building management and standard. I have strata shops with them, they are strict but it's benefits all. High standard of tools and finishing.

I&P - like IOI prop, but worst lah. U know lah, ask them to work is very very difficult one.

Gamuda - I used to have shoplot with them. workmanship very lowyar, crack here crack there after 1 yr. Many things to patch. Have to think carefully before buy from them again.

Glomac - undercon. No comment.

Perdana Park city - undercon. But so far so good. responsive and friendly sales team.

Tanming prop - undercon. workmanship #1. much like own renovation ! thumbs up to them.

MCT - undercon, heard and saw their workmanship tak boleh pakai. Scary. Hoping outcome not too bad.

SP Setia - reasonable good management team. Average workmanship. They do deliver as promised.

wah... your list of purchase base on this alone could very well be some other people's purchase in more than 3 lifetimes!

sime darby - workmanship generally ok but defect rectification , damn slow

sunway - only sound good - charge future prices, workmanship so so, defect rectification sucks, poor customer service ! always leaking problem..their so called green certification is a joke...for me never ever..

I&P - aiyo..for defect rectification wait until neck also panjang at least 2 kaki!..slowly wait lah..

plenitude- good workmanship, no issues generally ..

guocoland - workmanship acceptable, design not too bad..

Gamuda - According to some of the forummer, their workmanship is one of the best.

http://www.thestar.com.my/story.aspx/?file...90&sec=business

This post has been edited by KOHTT: Feb 25 2014, 12:38 PM

It could be true to residential , but my was shoplot. very cincai work. anyway, sold already.

Which MCT undercon project you talking about?

Mct is so bad workmanship? Which project?

Kingsley hills Semi-D... Saw their OneCity workman ship. cry jor I am only hoping it will be not toooooo bad. and this project very likely to delay by 1 yr.

got biz owner comment about onecity mall... "Looking at their workmanship, I immediately cancel my plan to open an outlet at onecity..

but i thought they have huge stakes in onecity?
mall is not sold, right?

Whoever want to buy fr MCT, pliss drop by One City 1st

AMJ (A&M) very bad workmanship, look at kemuning greenville.
PKNS : acceptable.
Gamuda Land : so far with them for 2 projects, KK, Bandar Botanic, acceptable.
Talam : you know i know... more than 15 years, belum siap. (remarks : melaka project).
SPSetia : good management.

This post has been edited by tnang: Feb 25 2014, 02:38 PM

oh ya Tan & Tan management is consistently good..quality average

E&O - concept was good in the beginning now getting a little stale, quality so so, management so so..

One city that bad? I been to one city before, their glass panels at the corridor quite scary but overall looks quite pleasing..

anymore?

Legal or no legal, just update to Trinity Group lor

Anyone heard Kerjaya Prospek Group? any comments?

developer of 228 and 288 in setapak. going for 100 in setapak soon.
contractor turn developer.
contractor who did lumina in mont kiara.
please do own due d.
my information might not be entirely correct.

can go into 228 and 288 to view workmanship.

Looks not bad

Add one more OSK into it. Sutera Damansara exterior workmanship is bad, from Ria 1 to Zaria. The Vale townhouse might be spared since it's in the millions but who knows, might turn out the same old thing again since Zaria also in the million range.

Cheapo stuff but premium price. Still remember they keep on advertising about their QC control. Meh. Lots of complains on workmanship, their non response attitude. Never bothered about rectification in the SD thread.

Alternative access road until today no news.

Hopefully the Pangea@Cyber owners don't suffer the same fate. Most of the people bought a unit in SD vows never to touch another OSK prop again unless blardy cheap haha

What's the story with SHAYLER GROUP?

This post has been edited by WannaGetBuffed: Feb 28 2014, 04:47 PM

anyone else?

Hi boss,

My experience thus far:-

YTL - management very good, very good response, workmanship just average, value proposition 5 star.
Tan & Tan - management very good, response very quick, workmanship also good, value proposition 4 star.
Glomac - management poor, response so so only, workmanship average, value proposition 3 star.
Mutiara Rini - above average delivery, good workmanship, value proposition 4 star.
Tropicana - still UC but value proposition 5 star.
Puncak Kencana / Nadayu group - management sucks, response very bad, workmanship not much to be desired, value proposition 0 star.
Para from Ipoh - above average delivery, average workmanship, value proposition 3 star.

lets me add:-

UOA - quality yat lou...but building n facade...lou tou
Gamuda (jade hills only) - quality yat lou...happy throughout...but facade wise, not cutting edge and eye dropping...
Setia - quality generally mah mah...banyak rough edges...untidied workmanship...but after sales service yat lou (Ecopark saja, cant vouch for other projects)
Loh&Loh-acceptable...pretty neat.
Monoland - terrible...
Empire - makes u appreciate Monoland
Mayland - make u appreciate when compared to Empire and Monoland

Can the architects, engineers and other approving agencies be responsible and answerable for poor and defective workmanship after V.P.?

MKH - workmanship average; defect rectification slowww.

Developers are getting more creative nowadays.
I kinda enjoyed new tag line by some developers.
Eg. Mahsing's lakeville commercial, ocr's come home adverts, etc.
New terminalogy such as quart villa.
Dual key featuring horizontal split, vertical split or even unit within unit.
Exciting times ahead.
Any updates on developer and their reputation after mapex?

Kochin boss, nice thread! To add a few

I&P - Notoriously non responsive sales team but improving recently. Quick defect rectification, smooth handover, very good finishing

Titijaya - Terrible finishing, tried hard to cut corners with end product, defect rectification was nightmare dealing with them

SMLand - Good delivery above expectation, but some promises during sales unfulfilled

Empire - As notoriously mentioned, but facade and concept wise no complains

My Experience
MKH - Workmanship is ok. Defect rectification is between ok and slow. Management is bad. Most Project conceptual is about the same

My advise is don't buy from this developer. I just received my keys to Subang Parkhomes and the quality is extremely bad. Price psf is RM625 but the finishing is like low cost.

Common area finishing is terrible. These areas are not shown in brochure so when they deliver the final product to you, you will then know how cheapskate this developer is. The entrance to my lift lobby is cement rendered!!! The car parks are full of cement patches everywhere. I thought I bought a low cost house!!

Leaks are everywhere and some areas is a hazard for kids. Barricade between garden area and the car park below is just horizontal bars with gaps that a kid can fall through. This barricade runs through the entire development so kids can fall if you don't keep a close eye on them.

I was told by a lady who had her unit's bathroom floor changed and the contactor said that the water proofing is thin and poorly done. Not sure how bad it is as I didn't see it with my own eyes.

Watch out for this developer!

Symphony - concept not too bad BUT end product below average - defect rectification can take up to one year.!

anyone know PJD ? how thier works ? they going merge with OSK soon

who is the developer?
ttdijaya?

to overcome all this complaints from consumers, that is why the gov needs to make it compulsory for developers to do BTS i.e. build and sell...not sell and build, so the gov can weed out all the fly-by-night developer...i.e. such as talam for instance, talam has a slot of subsidiary which are fly by night developer...

when the bad apples and bad pork eater are weed out, you will be left with good apples and fresh pork meat developers...

Mine

IJM- Good workmanship. Great management. No big problem.

YTL- Workmanship average but great at management and maintenance. Good USP for their project. Always feel good with YTL.

VILLAMAS - Bad workmanship. Cheap material. Bad at management and treat purchaser like shit. Avoid this wannabe reputable developer. Never seen any worse than this Villamas. This VILLAMAS only make me want to say never-ending bad words to them. SIGH!!! Day Light Robbery to the owner.

Mitraland - Average workmanship but good at management and defects. Overall acceptable.

Trinity for The Z Residence - LOVE IT!

This post has been edited by haryzat: Dec 28 2014, 03:35 AM

Gamuda - Not bad at all. Beautiful landscaping and design. Management boleh tahan only but good communication. Bukit Jade.

KIHUAT - Excellent workmanship, not bad management. Overall quite satiafied (Bukit Sungai Long)

Mah Sing - Give crazy discount and earn all back by cutting corners. Cannot personally attest but have friends who claim bad workmanship. Brochure and finished product does not even look related. Beware.

Sin Heap Lee - Disastrous. Will end up with unsolvable problem like persistent water leaking or fantastic lack of carparks etc. Management non existent. But somehow Sungai Long survives.

Anyone heard of Golden Oriental Realty for Twin Galaxy project in JB? It is a first time developer and Twin Galaxy is their first project.

heard twin galaxy very slow or stopped work..any comments?

where did you hear this from? I am going to sign the S&P soon..

las time slow...now looks good...

why u wanna buy iskandar? no hope there!

To add on can I comment about low Yat?

I scare later I kena bar here

Akisama - so so quality, but fix all defect

Some projects in JB CITY looks good, horizon hill looks good.. Upcoming RTS and HSR will bring some financial elements to this area.. And of cause, JB is nearest to Singapore, i can better manage my properties..

when the HSR is confirmed u can buy iskandar props..until then iskandar is nothing but 50000 apartments, a few theme parks and factories.

Goodluck btw..most singaporeans buy KL n penang..

Condominium/Serviced Apartment Projects by Exsim Development comes with stunning designs

This forum has no connection with Low Yat. Low Yat may put some ads here, but they dont own this forum

Low yat- after sales service suck , no responsibility,I own one subsale low Yat property and still under defect waranty period but developer refuse to rectify problem as stated he only waranty for first purchaser. don't have enginering solution for problem , chinaman style. I still remember that is a lady manager from sales office Jalan ipoh deal with me last time. That is the first and last time property from low yat...can ask them eat banana

GANDA SELAT. ---> Residensi Sungai Cincin. Nightmare for the buyer

Jliew i thought it is standard that warranty from developer only apply to first purchaser ?

You mean developer like YTL will cover warranty even for subsequent buyer as long as within warranty period ?

Actually most of developer will cover warranty for subsequent buyer as long within waranty period..

I been told garden heigh by lowyat also will cover for subsequent buyer within waranty but I will not trust low yat anymore. One time lesson for me is enought, that why I very concern developer reputation and after sales service now

yes agree...one other developer is sime darby - will also cover for subsequent buyers provided
still under defect rectification period. However, they are not very efficient

Product wise not too bad.

Binastra - - avoid, mainly a main con with own projects as well. Poor workmanship and alot of rework. Main con for km1 and 288 residence @ kuchai.

Exsim - - good quality and advance construction method, nice facade and design. Didnt get any chance to buy previously, sold out very quickly. Current launches quite costly.

MCT worst meh??

LBS - avoid it ~

Anyone heard about Vista City Success Sdn. Bhd.?
How do you think about this Semi-D?

http://galaxyvillamahkotacheras.blogspot.c...gistration.html

Bro, can share which project main con or developed by Binastra had poor workmanship?

Unsure for 288 Residence but I found KM 1 West quite decent where Binastra was main con it and most of Berjaya projects.

Btw, for Exsim, The Treez no doubt quite good quality and construction materials also overspent due to low number of units but tat was not the case for subsequent projects due to Treez was their pioneer project and they learned.

We must also need to see the price sold for 288 vs Treez thus it also affected the quality expectation and delivering.

Ironically, The Treez is their only completed project to comment so far and their main con was Binastra. The Leafz, Twins Arkz, Petalz and Rainz all yet to deliver.

Its not that hard to buy Exsim project I think bcz if not mistaken, none of it sold out in a day or two. It is just a matter of the pricing.

However, their sales quite decent and very good as a new boutique developer but not sure for the Rainz.

Ck east???

Mulpha and KLK?

Akisama - avoid at all cost. Exposed water pipes in common areas is the style. Not building as per brochure or model house. 288 residences at kuchai has water pipes running above hallway and one directly above main door - even in the so called high cost condo. I can use it to hang my laundry...

Workmanship is poor - exterior facade with concrete holes and uneven throughout. Windows frames dents and scratches.. Very rough finishes.

Condo is about the full package, not just 4 walls. The interior walls are smooth and nice.

Avoid.... But ok if you are looking for old style apartment quality.

China man company....but hearsay material.ude are pretty good as the boss wants to impress buyer for this first project..

Good topic, bookmark this page.

my feedback on NAZA TTDI.

delivery of VP very slow. take advantage of later buyer and focus priority on first buyer to prevent paying more LAD and deliver their vp first. in other words they don't set deadline on when to deliver vp.

but house design some ok some nice.

This post has been edited by Chaud: Feb 4 2015, 04:10 PM

Anyone got any comment on nasajaya, by lion group? How is their workmanship?

No more Mayland for me.

Brothers - i'm looking to get a place at Empire Residences in D'sara Perdana..... I'm not all too familiar with Mammoth problem. Anyone can share?

thanks for sharing this

monoland - terrible quality, two ac share one compressor with no room to add additional, gates down many times within first year, lift malfunctioned twice in first year, lobby already looks like a bomb went off, did i mention building is less than a year old?, car park is so tight that the walls are already full of car scratches, developer keep delaying defect repairs..

fyi, the 2 ac 1 compressor thingy is what we call a multisplit unit. the more advance version would be VRV series where 1 compressor can serve more than 1 or 2 ac and over longer distances.

and mind you these multisplit or VRV can be more expensive than purchasing 2 single split units.

main advantage of these are supposedly helps in space planning.
but downside is potentially higher cost of operation and also one down, all down scenario.

but fully noted on the other valid complaints.

you will find more info in the relevant thread..

Anyone heard of SCP group?How about their quality

Anyone has any opinion on Setia Haruman? Eyeing a property by them in CJ for own stay, but scared they won't be doing well after sales since there are some negative comments on MK Land...

nowadays hard to justify which developer given good workmanship despite of reputable name. Like see hoy chan is considered one of the top developer but the project of seringin residences at kuchai is tak boleh pakai. See hoy chan is appointing outside main con to complete the project and the workmanship is bad, some units have bad pipe leaking issue. At the end see hoy chan sue the main con but this wasn't announce to the buyers or public.

Whereby some small developers sometimes offer good quality and above average workmanship, such as selayang 228 built up fast and workmanship is considered not bad.

Nowadays buy house is really depends on luck as we do not know who the main con selected by the developer. The market is short of main con for big project, that's why many big projects done by inexperience or under qualify main con. Haiz

even trinity group also having problem in meeting deadline.

reviving a kinda old thread.
notice trend of new kids on the block who seems quite decent.
anybody wishes to share their thoughts on them?
am selecting a list of fairly 'active' developers who are non listed (or at least not listed under property/construction).
share your thoughts please.

trinity group (not talam ah)
exsim group
skyworld group
maxims circle group
dk group
f3 capital group

if you stick with top 4 developers......namely setia, sime, tan&tan and gamuda....at least they do pay attention with after sales service...even thought their products are not perfect.

UOA doesn't cut corner and your condo unit meet the expectation but some said their common area and landscaping lack 'Wow' factors.

Exsim and trinity track record is good. Treez and Leafz really were delivered well. Same for zest, z residence.

Skyworld track record so far still not that long. They are very ambitious however and we shall see.

sunway not good - ALWAYS leaking problems..must be using lousy contractor ..again and again one
development after another..maybe contractor giving kind of a bulk discount lah

Skyworld is using Zalam as their main con for debut project Ascenda and Bennington, Zalam i think is really experienced in the market, but anyone mind to share your experience about Zalam workmanship?

Anyone has any experience or comment on Berjaya Properties' development? Heard that their KM1 is almost on par with Treez that is nearby to each other.

coz their use the same main con-- binastra

Villamas - Please avoid them as far as you can. Poor workmanship plus management is unreliable. Really TN Sing!

TQ!
Another q - any comment on the building mgmt for KM1? Comparable to Tan & Tan's developments?

Guys any comment on the developer for SC Land & Orionluck,Thanks

Evening, I found some displeased comments on Villamas from the following link, hopefully this thread may be updated thus;

http://mytotallyproperty.com/blog1/serin-r...ency-cyberjaya/

TEASER;

Should have seen this blog b4 l bought Atmosfera. What u say is true! Villamas is one hopeless developer. They will give u the worse
possible and try to get away with it by telling u that they have
considered all options and that it is in the best interest of the
residents but in actual fact best interest for their pockets. Very irresponsible !!!!!!! I hope those considering Zefer which is next
to Atmosfera will not be conned by them again. Once a shit developer
always a shit developer , just like Talam !

How about enchanting heights ( mah sing)?

err..mahsing? adui..not so good their repute..

Any bad real experience?

not directly but indirectly via others who have bought into their developments (not many completed developments
but enough to give an idea of their work quality, delivery, etc..)

I am bit worry and pray at least not major issues

Hi all forumer how about SC land did you guys heard about it?

Hi, Would like to add my comment. I find Mutiara Johan Group is a reliable developer. Currently own an unit in Tiara Mutiara 1 and i am satisfied with the maintenance of the building (perhaps is to attract buyers for Mutiara 2). Can i know what are the comments for this developer, Cheras Hoong Soon Sdn Bhd?

Thanks.

different lvl. old skool conservative mutiara johan group much much better than the chekai cacat cheapskate ah beng CHS.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Jan 29 2016, 05:44 PM

Which project?

Mammoth very bad Developer. A lot of leaking. VP before complete construction. Developer control JMB to control funds.