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 ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V5

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post Jul 22 2014, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(Sarah Jessica @ Jul 22 2014, 04:07 PM)
Went to the bank to do some banking stuff, manage to get some ASW2020 (rm1.5k). Thanks to those who sold their ASW2020 units  notworthy.gif
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today bank a lot of people doing ASx transactions? hmm.gif
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post Jul 22 2014, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Jul 22 2014, 04:24 PM)
IINM this is the first time ever that they have offered a unit split exercise for their funds. Looks like the increase in "new money" coming in from the variable price funds (heard from some colleagues in the finance industry that YTD they've already sold RM1 billion in variable price funds) is seeing them go all out in their promotions.

This also means that PNB are "abiding" by the rules to limit the growth/size of fixed priced funds which the SC deems poses a systemic-risk to the local equity market. Sorry if that means deflating some of you who have been hoping for new/increase in fixed priced funds.
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1bil "new money". wow that's a lot money yo drool.gif

it's bad news for most of us cry.gif
okay, we can "try" our luck whenever got time on existing ASx schemes sweat.gif

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QUOTE(bumble_b33 @ Jul 22 2014, 05:03 PM)
Hi all sifu,

I just invested RM10,000 into ASG kesihatan, but i kena sales charge 5%, which means my value now only RM 9,500.
If lets say after 1 year, dividen 7%, and i want to withdraw, will i kena charge again ?

and the total earning is like 7% minus 5% sales charged, only 2% i earn in 1 year ?

please i need your help for clarification sad.gif

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1st of all, in ASG passbook there's no RM, only units.

2. it's rm10k/1.2359 = 8,091.26 units

there's no charges when u sells icon_rolleyes.gif

for dividend it's 8,091.26 units x 7% = RM 566.38 / NAV

NAV= depend on that time

http://www.asnb.com.my/

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post Jul 22 2014, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(bumble_b33 @ Jul 22 2014, 08:04 PM)
sir, lets say it is 7% after 1 year and i want to withdraw , i earn RM 566.38.
but initially i lost around RM 500 for sales charge right ?

So my net earning for withdraw are only RM 10000 + RM 66.38 ?

Please enlighten me sifus.. i am  rclxub.gif and little regret with for unknown 5% sales charged.

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ASG is variable pricing fund. when u withdraw next year after dividend, the unit price may be higher than what u bought now. u may get more profit.

u can only calculate then. Now u ask me, I don't know next year price sweat.gif
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post Jul 23 2014, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 23 2014, 06:47 PM)
So how to get back the loss units? Wait few years for it to add on automatically?
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yup, that's one way. another way is dollar cost averaging (invest some on monthly basis) icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 24 2014, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jul 24 2014, 12:38 PM)
Glad to report that I managed to get 1+1+2+3K at ASNB today. Ran out of money after the 4th strike.

Good luck to those who try today.
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Congrats. Today it's your lucky day notworthy.gif

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post Jul 24 2014, 04:38 PM

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No matter it's 7k or 3004, the main point is getting some ASx units in the end of day nod.gif
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jul 24 2014, 04:42 PM)
Ha ha.

I was trying to down play this with smartinvestor by saying 3004 only. But he is smarter than me thus he is called smartinvestor!

Total = 7k.
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if u managed to get 7k AS1M, it's means there's more units available (maybe 70k hmm.gif )
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post Jul 24 2014, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jul 24 2014, 08:28 PM)
Pai seh lah!

Just learning from my attempts in catching the fish and then try to make my fishing trips more enjoyable and productive. Ha.

Like what I learnt from Kings of Restoration on ASTRO (Henry Ford)

" whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right"

It is you, your attitude that will make the final difference. Ha.

Cheerio.
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post Jul 25 2014, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 25 2014, 12:36 PM)
a chinese can also be considered as bumiputra under the minority group
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Chinese Muslim to be exact icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 25 2014, 05:15 PM

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Enjoy Your Holidays guys & gals rclxm9.gif
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post Jul 25 2014, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jul 25 2014, 05:57 PM)
I thought bumiputra means native of the land. Maybe I am wrong here with my limited knowledge. Ha.

How does converting to Islam make one a native of the land? Strange laws we have here.

Sorry, off topic here.

Have a nice and enjoyable HR break to all!

Better and bigger ASX fish harvests after the HR break! Be positive! Ha.

Cheerio.
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yup, Bumiputera is native of the land but in ASNB terms non-bumi muslims are "special" Minority Group which entitle to ASB icon_rolleyes.gif

look at Q2 => http://www.asnb.com.my/english/eligibility.htm

Note : However they are still non-bumiputera hence, for ASW 2020, they are classified under non-bumiputera quota.
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QUOTE(bumble_b33 @ Jul 25 2014, 07:48 PM)
Thanks Xing.. like that still got hope,

basic i can earn around 7% dividen ady, then if nx year price got increase, means can sell at higher price..

2 ways to generate profit it seems..
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bro, u think too much lah. u can never get wrong with ASNB Funds icon_rolleyes.gif

u need to only worry when the next GE around the corner biggrin.gif

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post Jul 26 2014, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(bumble_b33 @ Jul 25 2014, 11:08 PM)
I worry how slow it generate, can't wait till the moment of withdraw ~.~
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UT for mid to long term investment. u wanna fast return, then do share trading or Forex. High return & also very high risk icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(lowya @ Jul 26 2014, 06:49 AM)
just curious, ASN would be asking your religion before you open? if you say muslim then you are good to go to open account?
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if no ask religion how u wanna open account. Banks also ask your religion, race, mother name, address etc. when u want to open bank account. same procedures icon_rolleyes.gif

u need to visit ASNB website for information.
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QUOTE(cx2531 @ Jul 26 2014, 04:39 PM)
through maybank only amanah saham 1malaysia and bumiputra available only?
how bout asn1, ans2, asm etc?
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QUOTE(cx2531 @ Jul 26 2014, 05:21 PM)
yes but as i see asm/wawasan2020 is under amanah saham 1 malaysia right?
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bro, u need to do some reading 1st, not forgetting visiting ASNB website.

Pity to Ancient-XinG- , He gave almost all the basis info needed for those newbie in the 1st & 2nd posting, & yet u still asking here shakehead.gif

I also years ago didn't know much about these amanah saham thingy, so I did some reading & research (mind u at that time internet is still new & 56kps dail-up connection yo sweat.gif ) so u can imagine how "fast" the website loads yawn.gif
& there's no one to help me cry.gif unlike now we have LYN to help those newbie notworthy.gif
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post Jul 27 2014, 09:51 PM

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Now I know I'm not alone. Thanks to all who supported me notworthy.gif

I'm sorry if I hurt anyone feelings icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jul 28 2014, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(cx2531 @ Jul 27 2014, 10:56 PM)
come on dude, i get confuse after my research that's why i asking my question here.

regarding to This Site, it show

Amanah Saham Nasional (ASN)
Amanah Saham Bumiputera (ASB)
Amanah Saham Wawasan 2020 (ASW 2020)
Amanah Saham Nasional 2 (ASN2)
Amanah Saham Malaysia (ASM)
Amanah Saham Didik (ASD)
Amanah Saham Nasional 3 Imbang (ASN 3)
Amanah Saham Gemilang (Amanah Saham Pendidikan, Amanah Saham Kesihatan, Amanah Saham Persaraan)

and also

Make your additional ASB investment through M2U today!

but through m2u i only able to get AS1M and ASM bumiputera , 2 selection only.

because my ASM statement state i can purchase additional through online without going to bank and pos office.

and of course, previously my generation also with dial up connection.
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[Ancient]-XinG- in #2 already written clearly that
- For Non Bumiputera, THE ONLY available funds for you is variable fund, those with the (*) and funds number 3, 4, 5, and 6 mentioned above. And there is NO MORE units left to buy all the other fixed priced fund. And thus YOU CAN'T Purchase Online. Please do take note before having any questions regarding the matter mentioned above and we will NOT giving out the same answer again and again.

In the website Got small note saying "At the moment, this service (m2u) is offered for ASB additional investment only. Other additional ASNB investments are currently not available online."

but when u visit ASNB ebanking. Got note saying AS1M (Non Bumi Allocation), ASW2020, ASM & ASD are fully subscribed.

So the Main conclusion is Non-Bumi NO Chance to top-up their ASx Online. Case closed icon_rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jul 27 2014, 11:28 PM)
That was the impression I got earlier from ASNB & banks' websites. But when I asked them, it was a different story. I guess their written infor is not that clear/correct. But they did put that non bumi portions were all sold out.

Cheerio.

P/S One tip. Instead of doing it during lunch break, you can also do it in the morning at PM as they open at 8 am (banks at 9 am).  the bank staff advised me to try first thing in the morning at PM before other people grab the units at the bank when they open at 9 am. I have tried twice at PM in the morning but result was not like what the bank staff has advised me. Ha. Maybe you will have better luck than me! Ha.
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bro, never listen & believe 100% what the banks staff said. u know why they said like that (bcoz they donwan 2 see u again in their branch "trying" & wasting their time rolleyes.gif )
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QUOTE(cx2531 @ Jul 28 2014, 01:57 AM)
but when u visit ASNB ebanking. Got note saying AS1M (Non Bumi Allocation), ASW2020, ASM & ASD are fully subscribed.

regarding this, i knew it is fully subscribed, but how about when someone sold their unit? just like bank / pos office if someone didn't sell off, we unable to buy = fully subscribed, if someone sold, we can purchase the unit.

so the terms fully subscribed just to mention is no more stock available but doesn't mean we cant purchase it if somebody sold their unit off.

correct me if im wrong.

In the website Got small note saying "At the moment, this service (m2u) is offered for ASB additional investment only. Other additional ASNB investments are currently not available online."

and yes, without opening an account, u cant purchase, so additional add on only available because we do required key in our member id before we make additional purchasing.
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When u do the transaction in banks or ASNB branch, the transaction is done "real-time" unlike online where the ASNB HQ need to "process" your transaction which is time consuming. That's why when u try luck at banks, u know on the spot if there's any available units (someone sold their units). Remember even u do online, u need to update your passbook at the banks or ASNB branch. In the end, u still need to go personally to the branch. There's no short-cut for it smile.gif

don't ask me why we can try luck at branch but not online (non-bumi). That question can only be answered by ASNB officers sweat.gif

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