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 ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V5

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plumberly
post Mar 6 2014, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(enkil @ Mar 6 2014, 06:32 PM)
Salute the dedication  smile.gif
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Ha ha. Thanks.

Have to get my money to work harder for me mah.

But I have to keep in mind that there is a breakpoint where it will cost me more (petrol, parking ticket, etc) than trying to beat the FD rate.

So far, I am still on the winning side.

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 7 2014, 02:51 PM)
Looks like you're not alone "trying" at the branch. I can bet the staff didn't even try for u because I also kena once when there's one couple trying just before me. When my turn came, the bloody staff didn't even check, straightaway said no units available  vmad.gif  Almost got into "fight", screaming to the bloody staff  flex.gif
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I think I am lucky here. Out of the many trips I have made for the ASX, I have only seen 2 Chinese trying their luck for the ASX.

Boss, next time just show the unhelpful staff your IMPRESSIVE/CANTIK/LISTEN TO ME tatoo!

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 7 2014, 03:48 PM)
AMB pushing to sell Dana Aqeel fund

Amanah Mutual Bhd (AMB) aims to sell between RM400 million and RM500 million worth of units in its Shariah compliant Dana Aqeel (capital protected) fund (DAQ) following the success of the first issue.

DAQ2 is a close-ended fund with a maturity period of three years will end on April 21, 2017, and unit holders holding the units to maturity will enjoy 100% capital protection.

DAQ2, which is opened for subscription for 45 days from yesterday until April 19, 2014, offers two classes, the first being Class MYR where units will be offered at RM0.50 per unit while the second is Class SGD where units are S$0.50 (RM1.29) per unit AMB plans to invest at least 85% of DAQ2 net asset value into sukuk and Shariah-compliant money market instruments, 13% in Shariah-compliant equit ies and 2% in Shariah-compliant deposits.

http://www.ambmutual.com.my/ambdaq2.htm
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Thanks.

Went through the web site looking for the return of this fund. Can't find it. Do you know what is the expected return?

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 7 2014, 04:30 PM)
According to news report,  The CEO expect more than 13% cumulative return for this second series. The 1st one yielded a total cumulative return of 11.98% to investors.

http://themalaysianreserve.com/main/news/c...dana-aqeel-fund
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If I read it correctly, it means 11.98/3 = 4% average pa.

My aim is higher than 4%.

Thanks for the update.
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QUOTE(tbheng @ Mar 7 2014, 11:35 PM)
Some calculation for sharing:

To be more precise, if cumulative returns of 11.98% for 3 years, the annualized returns is 3.84% p.a. (rounded to 2 d.p.), i.e. 3.84%p.a. compounded for 3 years, you will get cumulative 11.98% returns.  icon_rolleyes.gif

You can get these kind of ROI calculation with Excel formula with the above example : "=RATE(3,0,-100,111.98,0)"

4% compounded 3 years will give you 12.49% cumulative returns.
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Thanks.

Note that I used "average" and not "compound" in my 4%. I do know the difference between average and compound.

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P/S Another one for those who do not know this yet, try logest( ) function in Excel. Very useful tool to estimate the rate of change especially for data with big data range.
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 7 2014, 11:12 PM)
Chance to top up is gud
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Due to my poor planning, not much bullets available for this hunting (tied up in FDs).

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 8 2014, 11:19 AM)
U need to make calculative decision whether to withdraw or not
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Good point. The one with the "oldest" maturing date can be considered but I will loose out on some $$.

If I could get 1/3 of this FD amount into ASM, then I will break even with my earlier FD termination.

Think, think, think, ....

Thanks for the pointer.

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 8 2014, 11:50 AM)
If u can spend whole day @ ASNB, chances to top up is almost 100% (depend on quantum)
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OK, let me think it over this w/end and then decide on Monday.

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Mar 9 2014, 11:36 AM)
this may make you guys cringe a bit

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Bumi or non bumi account?

I think I tried my luck on the 6 Mar and got a 0!

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Can sense that luck is coming my way now.

Got 100+100+400 for my ASM this afternoon.

Small amount but still better than nothing.

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Like to learn from those who have tried purchasing the available units during the past dividend periods (non bumi units).

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I know there is no unique pattern but what was the general pattern we have seen in the past.

E.g. if it is C, then no point in me going on the first day.

Thanks.

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Mar 11 2014, 09:21 AM)
should be D. LOL
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 11 2014, 12:35 PM)
I think most likely D  hmm.gif
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Thanks for the feedback.

I was hoping for A.

Then again, D is still OK and I will aim for the 4-5 peaks in there. Just kidding.

Cheerio.

P/S I guess after 1-2 weeks, the dividend sale will be all over. Then back to the normal s l o w fishing.
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 11 2014, 04:33 PM)
plumberly got anything today  brows.gif
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Following what I heard a lot lately,

. . . for security reason, we cannot disclose that. Ha.



In layman's language, no, I did not try after my RM600 strike. Give all the staff I have troubled in the past a break lah.

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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Mar 12 2014, 10:17 AM)
Hi mates~just back from PM!!

RM400 + RM450 + RM100 + RM400 = RM1350

the malay lady really is my lucky angel  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Congratulations!

Which ASX?
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 12 2014, 03:33 PM)
Managed to top up my account during lunch.
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I went after lunch as well but the bank lady told me the ASNB system was not available/running.

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 12 2014, 04:09 PM)
Banks always "fake" system down. Normally they do this because the staff took "extra" lunch time  doh.gif
Once I ask2 so much question to the CS staff until she "crack" & told me the truth  sweat.gif
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Thanks.

The lady who told me was not the one covering the ASNB customers (I went to the side to pick up some ASNB forms to prepare for the coming ASM dividend fire sale! Ha). Maybe the ASNB counter staff was not at the counter then (like you said, "away"? Ha.

Why do they lie on things like this?

One thought came to mind some weeks ago. Some staff will minimise the strike rate to discourage people from coming back. If place X has high strike rate, then many people will be frequent customers trying their luck. So, to lighten their work load, just try all the things mentioned in this thread (system down, try once only etc) to discourage return customers.

If they could do a data check/survey, they will find some banks and some counters with unusually low strike rates while some will have unusually high strikes (> 2 * standard deviation statistically speaking). There are indeed some good staff helping their customers.

My 3 cents.

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Mar 12 2014, 04:29 PM)
Don't you love this guy.. priority banking lah, XX,000 not a lot lah.. didn't mention your Bentley got parking fine? smile.gif
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For the record, I am still driving my 10+ yrs old Wira lah.

XX,000 is really not a lot considering the cost of living now. Who knows, that could be my life saving?

You are entitled to your opinion on what you see or read but please respect others and not hastily jump to your conclusion.

QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 12 2014, 04:44 PM)
if Bentley in Public Parking, already missing long before parking fine  whistling.gif
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Thanks!
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Mar 12 2014, 05:22 PM)
i think u forgot another X. should be XXX,000 tongue.gif

orang kaya with priority banking. StanChart?
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Ha ha, if XXX,000 then 2 conclusions

- yes orang kaya then
- but also stupid carrying xxx,000 cash!

Now I regret mentioning this. Maybe I was so angry, airing my frustration on that day with so many things not going my way.

Saw so many threads especially in the FD forum about 50K, 100K, 250k, etc etc.

OK, will be more careful in what I put in here now though I don't have much to show off anyway. Still driving my 10+ yrs old Wira.

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Mar 12 2014, 05:31 PM)
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i always put inside tissue box yo
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I see. If I see someone carrying a tissue box in the bank, then I know it is YOU! Ha.

Did some quick calcs, each tissue box can hold about RM45,000 (RM50 notes) or RM90,000 (RM100 notes).

So your 100,000 in 1 tissue box is possible!

I will be more than willing to spend the RM2 for the IGB transfer than carrying that. Ha.
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Mar 12 2014, 06:26 PM)
If that was your life savings you would not have priority banking. Priority Banking means at least a few hundred thousand in the bank smile.gif
Did not jump to any conclusions, it is quite logical to assume that someone with Priority Banking is rich, otherwise bank would not provide you priority banking services smile.gif

Anyway, don't you guys rather try for larger amounts on the other funds? I mean instead of giving people so much trouble trying and trying for Rm10, Rm100 etc. Why not just dump it in a commercial fund? really what is the big difference in commision cost between Rm100 in a commercial fund, and Rm100 in ASW? all this trouble to save Rm2 tongue.gif

If you look at all of PNB's funds, all started at Rm1, now all except one is 1.18-1.36, but all the fixed-price funds still stuck at Rm1.. but everyone wants to buy that lol smile.gif
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OK lah, let us not make this into the email version of the US Open Tennis!

If I borrowed RM0.x million and bought an S Mercedes, am I rich? Same thing with the Priority Banking customers thing. Look deeper.

On the subject of "rich", how much is considered rich? 100K, 500K, 1 million, 10 million, 100 million???

One way to gauge is this formula (I think from the book The Millionaire Next Door)

One is wealthy when B is > 2 * A

A = age * annual income /10

B = net worth (i.e., assets - liabilities)

Then it is not a number for all but relative to one's income & expenses (one's lifestyle).


Speaking for myself, I am into ASX because it is about 2 times higher than FD.

Not into fund (I assume you meant things like UT) because of the annual management fee they charge even when the fund is loosing money! And I prefer to stay out of UT/shares now due to the volatile economy. So ASX is the best parking lot for me now (no, I am not driving a Bentley).

On fixed price vs variable price funds, fixed is better for me as I know I will be getting X% per year in dividend and not worry about the price. There are some shares in KLSE where they give one x% dividends but still making a lost due to the declining share prices. So work within my money risk profile.

My 3.8 cents.

Cheerio.

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