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post Mar 10 2014, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 10 2014, 12:46 PM)
So other than QL, bought anything else?  brows.gif
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Did hold small lots of supermx, it's still dropping now and see what can I do. Collect more to lower my average buying price. laugh.gif

In my opinion, it's quite a good fundamental stock with space to grow. New production line is going on soon in 2014 albeit the delay. And yeah, the poor 4th quarter report and fire made everyone chicken. tongue.gif

So let's see la, hopefully I'm right. tongue.gif

Lai pro, opinion? laugh.gif
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post Mar 10 2014, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 10 2014, 01:03 PM)
Supermax... still a good growth company, but not at these prices.  tongue.gif
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Actually how to judge the fair price of a stock? I've been thinking these and finding the answers. tongue.gif
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post Mar 10 2014, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Mar 10 2014, 03:30 PM)
*snore*

... in case you terasa gark, not at you  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 10 2014, 04:09 PM)
Well i know, i know.... i am boring...  tongue.gif 

My lectures are bringing this thread to sleep...  laugh.gif
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Keep lecturing leh. I want to hear more. Lamb, you too give lectures to me too. tongue.gif

I don't mind you guys mumbling or even shouting at me! Quick quick quick!!! tongue.gif
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post Mar 11 2014, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 11 2014, 01:21 PM)
lol

Of course, it can be goreng.

But I won't touch it... tongue.gif
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Then what will you touch then? =P
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post Mar 11 2014, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 11 2014, 02:17 PM)
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Why divert the issue to me?
No play ping pong maaa.... tongue.gif

Last time we already talked about the quality of the company here - go search yourself la.

It's a ma ma dei company only.

1. Dividends decreased. - is this a good or bad sign?

2. Profits increased a lot - where did the profits increased from?

3. Huge drop in revenue - what is happening?

Those were some of the points I brought out.

The stock?
Any stock can be goreng.
You supply the oil and the stock to KTL, he can do it.  thumbup.gif
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Mana ada play ping pong. I'm literally asking you what are those that you will touch. tongue.gif lai tell tell. tongue.gif

But looking at the future projects and GDV, wouldn't it be quite promising, long term wise?

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post Mar 12 2014, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 11 2014, 03:25 PM)
To understand the future, you need to understand the present and the past.

no?

Same 3 questions I ask. ( Not difficult question to answer hor)

1. Dividends decreased. - is this a good or bad sign?

2. Profits increased a lot - where did the profits increased from?

3. Huge drop in revenue - what is happening?

if you can understand these 3, then you can understand/guesstimate the company's management...
then you can guesstimate the ability to deliver future projects.

All those above are a waste of time it all you looking for is a cook.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Thanks boon! Looks like I still have tons of works to be done. biggrin.gif

Will answer your question once I understand not only the future, but the present as well as the past. smile.gif

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post Mar 12 2014, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 12 2014, 10:33 AM)
Stuck where? QL... or Supermax

Both of them is slow long term counter, it SUPPOSED to be stucked there for long time before you see much gains..  rolleyes.gif
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QL and supermx are mine. tongue.gif
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post Mar 12 2014, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 12 2014, 10:38 AM)
Ya kah.. sori sori... wrong person

Must be getting old liao...  rclxub.gif
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Big boss is too busy la. tongue.gif

QL and supermx memang for long long term de. tongue.gif
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post Mar 12 2014, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Mar 12 2014, 10:42 AM)
Right, getting stuck better than hearing the chopping sound  brows.gif

Btw, I tried borders, couldn't find the booking you mentioned. Malaysia Stock Performance? Is that a book or a magazine?
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Tried to search it in popular and to no avail too. Gonna keep searching in other bookstores.
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post Mar 12 2014, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 12 2014, 10:58 AM)
Last time I used their *** ratings to monitor stocks.

Then... the less I know about stocks.... the more I figured why stocks move and don't move. tongue.gif

The greatest key I ever discovered?

Don't be lazy.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 12 2014, 11:03 AM)
Got need to find money the word troublesome should not exist. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 12 2014, 11:04 AM)
You pro already mah.. others need a starting point.

Last time i used to buy every 6 months.. then once a year ... later know more already then gradually stop.. never bought for last 4 years liao.  tongue.gif
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Like gark said, need starting point mah. tongue.gif
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post Mar 12 2014, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 12 2014, 03:59 PM)
Donno oh... never really check them out yet, cause they are very diversified.  tongue.gif
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ioi and tsh are going crazy now. laugh.gif
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post Mar 13 2014, 01:46 PM

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Local news said that Not only Allianz but etiqa is also insuring mh370?

Btw, Atok bomoh geng! laugh.gif
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post Mar 17 2014, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 16 2014, 11:05 PM)
I can't tell you what to do leh.
I am no advisor.
This only stock forum.
For fitters, already pointed out the issues about the stock.
By its segmentals, Fitters is earning most from its property but it's not classified as a property stock.
Instead its listed as a trading services company.
And being a capalang company, it's not attracting the funds.
Shareholding structure is an important issue.
Without funds holding it, it won't get the coverage on the stock.
And if and when it's listed as a property stock, would it be able to compete?
I could be wrong but that's the problem in my opinion.

i3? I surfed that site a couple of times and that's it.
The forum's .... way too complicated.... for me.

The economy?
I agree the economy is challenging...
however I do not agree with how you put it 'malaysia economy really not suitable for a company to excel and to support sustainable growth'....
well, if a company is truly good it will be good, in regardless of the economy.
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If may I ask, how long since you've been trading in stocks? Where is the place you get info? I'm surfing all sorts of forums and websites now, oh ya, still trying to find the books you mentioned too. biggrin.gif

P/s: i3 is indeed a little bit pening. @@

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post Mar 17 2014, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 17 2014, 08:39 AM)
Uncle google is the best place for info.

Bursa website is important: http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...#/?category=all

And your broker's trading platform is as good as any site.
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Ok thanks! I'm still learning on how to evaluate/guesstimate the value of the company. Many people have different approaches and I'm doing paper trading now.


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post Mar 18 2014, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 18 2014, 05:35 PM)
Not in KL... i dont think can find 1.2kg crab in KL...  laugh.gif
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What are you doing in Indon actually? big boss ah? tongue.gif
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post Mar 20 2014, 05:49 PM

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What horses that I missed? tongue.gif
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post Mar 20 2014, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 20 2014, 08:08 PM)
sold last time after announced merger.

Supermax and all gloves in under margin pressure, too many producers too little customers.. if everyone expand at gila pace this will happen sooner or later..  rolleyes.gif
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That's all. After sitting down and reading a bit further, decided to cut loss and I admitted that I made my mistakes.

Expansion and switching to nitrile and blablabla.

So, gark gor, boon said that you have horses that can fly wo. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 20 2014, 08:29 PM)
hahaha flying horse is an old joke...

over expansion will do that.. but then again hor.. everything repeats in a cycle...  whistling.gif

gloves over supply exceed demand -> margin and sales dropping -> glove stock bear market-> defer or stop expansion plan -> existing factory capacity left idle -> glove supply reduced -> consumer catch up with glove demand -> margin and sales expanding ->existing factory back to full capacity -> aggressive expansion plan and add more factories -> glove stock bull run -> gloves over supply exceed demand
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Yes, the whole thing is indeed a cycle. In fact, everything is a cycle. Gonna monitor and collect in the nearest future.

Comparing and comparing the glove companies now. Now, all fours company are facing problems. 4 eight? tongue.gif but still, Malaysia still rules glove industry. biggrin.gif
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Kossan yeah. More diversified products. Anyway, I should. Keep monitoring kossan and get some when it's on its loww and wait, patiently. laugh.gif
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post Mar 21 2014, 06:34 PM

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What? Gark is sending us hollan? vmad.gif vmad.gif

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Tipsy is too dangerous to be followed. laugh.gif

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