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lambethwalk
post Feb 20 2014, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 09:54 AM)
Aiyoooo..... this one better ask gark

For me...
whenever I get something like this...
I call Mr. Lee.

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 09:55 AM)
shares price after ex =  Share price now x 1/2 x 1.5/2  tongue.gif
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i'm thinking this could be a very good way of determining how much a share price will be PUSHED UP before listing of rights i.e. rights issue play. if can get the formula right.. brows.gif

for example:

current share price is 0.19
proposed rights issue price 0.20
2 rights for every 1 share
2 free warrants for every 3 rights

the surety of the company needing to push up share price beyond 0.20 is 100% correct?
coz the rights price is already priced at 0.20 vs current price of 0.19 only

then now it leaves calculating how much the range could be i.e. minimum price of the share being pushed up to make the whole rights/warrants listing work and to get people to actually subscribe.

gark, your formula still workable for this scenario then?
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 09:59 AM)
huhu!

Ah Lamb need to belanja you kopi liao!!!  biggrin.gif
* Bloody hell my nescafe peng went from 2.20 to 2.50 this morning.  vmad.gif  mad.gif  *
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At this price, better buy a dolce gusto machine... amazing coffee... drool.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 10:04 AM)
No problem...  tongue.gif
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hehe.... 8 sen to 2. whistling.gif

not bad hor.... tongue.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 10:05 AM)
i'm thinking this could be a very good way of determining how much a share price will be PUSHED UP before listing of rights i.e. rights issue play. if can get the formula right..  brows.gif

for example:

current share price is 0.19
proposed rights issue price 0.20
2 rights for every 1 share
2 free warrants for every 3 rights

the surety of the company needing to push up share price beyond 0.20 is 100% correct?
coz the rights price is already priced at 0.20 vs current price of 0.19 only

then now it leaves calculating how much the range could be i.e. minimum price of the share being pushed up to make the whole rights/warrants listing work and to get people to actually subscribe.

gark, your formula still workable for this scenario then?
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Oh the formula have not include the rights price. if got rights price add back 20 cent x 2 into the formula.

Who in the right mind will buy rights without at least 20% discount... unless the warrant conversion price is very cheap.

If you can give all the prices, i can work out theory price... wink.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 10:06 AM)
hehe.... 8 sen to 2. whistling.gif

not bad hor.... tongue.gif
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Wat happen? No understand you... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 10:05 AM)
i'm thinking this could be a very good way of determining how much a share price will be PUSHED UP before listing of rights i.e. rights issue play. if can get the formula right..  brows.gif

for example:

current share price is 0.19
proposed rights issue price 0.20
2 rights for every 1 share
2 free warrants for every 3 rights

the surety of the company needing to push up share price beyond 0.20 is 100% correct?
coz the rights price is already priced at 0.20 vs current price of 0.19 only

then now it leaves calculating how much the range could be i.e. minimum price of the share being pushed up to make the whole rights/warrants listing work and to get people to actually subscribe.

gark, your formula still workable for this scenario then?
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YES!

you are correct.

in a way, you can always guesstimate.
this way, you are not trading blindly.

well done! ( cannot comment on calculations la... my counting kaput one. laugh.gif)

good thinking. thumbup.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 10:08 AM)
Wat happen? No understand you...  tongue.gif
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rolleyes.gif

as if you no bawah standing. whistling.gif

what's almost 2?


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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 10:07 AM)
Oh the formula have not include the rights price. if got rights price add back 20 cent x 2 into the formula.

Who in the right mind will buy rights without at least 20% discount... unless the warrant conversion price is very cheap.

If you can give all the prices, i can work out theory price... wink.gif
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it's there.. i copy here again *kancheong already*

current share price is 0.19
proposed rights issue price 0.20
2 rights for every 1 share
2 free warrants for every 3 rights
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 10:09 AM)
rolleyes.gif

as if you no bawah standing. whistling.gif

what's almost 2?
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In my portfolio only inimari... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 10:08 AM)
YES!

you are correct.

in a way, you can always guesstimate.
this way, you are not trading blindly.

well done! ( cannot comment on calculations la... my counting kaput one. laugh.gif)

good thinking.  thumbup.gif
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hehehe.. we wait for gark to unravel the formula thumbup.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 10:09 AM)
it's there.. i copy here again *kancheong already*

current share price is 0.19
proposed rights issue price 0.20
2 rights for every 1 share
2 free warrants for every 3 rights
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warrant ex price, how long to expiry? tongue.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 10:11 AM)
warrant ex price, how long to expiry?  tongue.gif
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the counter only has mother. no warrant

proposed renounceable rights issue of up to 106,718,796 new ordinary shares of RM0.20 each on the basis of two (2) Rights Shares for every one (1) existing share together with up to 71,145,864 free detachable new warrants on the basis of two (2) New Warrants for every three (3) Rights Shares subscribed by the entitled shareholders

thats all tongue.gif

current share price 0.190

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post Feb 20 2014, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 10:15 AM)
the counter only has mother. no warrant

proposed renounceable rights issue of up to 106,718,796 new ordinary shares of RM0.20 each on the basis of two (2) Rights Shares for every one (1) existing share together with up to 71,145,864 free detachable new warrants on the basis of two (2) New Warrants for every three (3) Rights Shares subscribed by the entitled shareholders

thats all tongue.gif
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ahem..ahem the new warrant to be issued... tongue.gif

All warrant have ex price and expiry.. you let me know which counter better tongue.gif
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AhLamb so kan cheong-ing about AhBee.....

can see teeth no see eyes atm.... laugh.gif




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post Feb 20 2014, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 10:16 AM)
ahem..ahem the new warrant to be issued... tongue.gif

All warrant have ex price and expiry.. you let me know which counter better  tongue.gif
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hahahah... its ah bee biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 10:16 AM)
ahem..ahem the new warrant to be issued... tongue.gif

All warrant have ex price and expiry.. you let me know which counter better  tongue.gif
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I know... I know.... AhBee. whistling.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:18 AM

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tried to do the same with XDL last time, which earned me spare change

but didn't know how to calculate properly smile.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 10:17 AM)
I know... I know.... AhBee. whistling.gif
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brows.gif this is extremely really useful to understand. if can master.. no joke drool.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 10:17 AM)
hahahah... its ah bee biggrin.gif
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Then how come you say current price 0.19? it;s 27.5 already leh...

wrong info... tongue.gif
lambethwalk
post Feb 20 2014, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 10:20 AM)
Then how come you say current price 0.19?  it;s 27.5 already leh...

wrong info...  tongue.gif
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correct info la... BEFORE the spike biggrin.gif

need to calculate before the spike....

proposed rights was last year

This post has been edited by lambethwalk: Feb 20 2014, 10:21 AM

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