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gark
post Feb 20 2014, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Feb 20 2014, 10:56 AM)
Noob question. How you judge the FV?
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This one you gotta determine yourself, everyone use different method..
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post Feb 20 2014, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 10:45 AM)
Boon...

I am thinking to use trailing stop loss for stock which has exceeded my fair value...

Those stock which i want to sell due to FA but still persistently going up, so i let it go on but want to protect my profits.

5% trailing stop loss ok boh?  sweat.gif
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It's a great idea.

Have you ever read How To Make Money in Stocks?

There's two chapters in the book that should help you greatly.

If you are not sure with charts, using percentage stops is ok.
But I would advice you to be flexible a bit...
especially when the stock fly strongly...

for example, the stock I just potong recently
got in last year...
mid Sep if I remember correctly.... whistling.gif
as you can see....
it's way passed anyone's targets....
after the split...
one time...
I had my potong point at 2.... ( at that point... even cutting at 180, I would be damn happy)
if use percentages... it was close to 20% off the peak...
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I almost... almost.... sold..... it.
no joke...
but somehow, I guess .... I was lucky also....
I did not...
When I potong ... it was 308. whistling.gif
and guess what....
at the start of the day....
I had ZERO potong point for the stock....
stock was trending up like mad....
getting out wasn't even on my mind........

meaning to say.... i think it's best be flexible.....

and yes there are many ways to be use the potong higher strategy.

For example again...
the almost 2 stock...

Well at this moment of time....
just assuming...
you have your FV point at 175.... sweat.gif
stock now 193...
well.... you could even use a simple non mathematical potong formula/non charing formula...
by 'increasing' your exit point to 180....
as long as the stock is higher than 180.....
you stay put....
now if the stock moves another 5 or 10 sen higher....
you move your potong point 5 or 10 sen higher too...
to say 185.
this way... you give the stock some consoildating point but you also give increase your min profits higher....

yeah... many, many ways to do it.

Some just use charts....
as long the chart don't say sell...
they stay...
even if the price has gone crazily above the FV point.

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post Feb 20 2014, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 11:00 AM)
This one you gotta determine yourself, everyone use different method..
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I usually grab FV from those investment firms research, but thus far, have been fairly out.
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 10:55 AM)
i also want to know  biggrin.gif
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Use AhBee as an example....

use a non charting/non mathematical method...

ok?

say err..... aha.... use Jerry... LOL!

Jerry got out at 25 sen. (he loud loud say so just now. whistling.gif)

So rite now, you just want to do better than Jerry.... whistling.gif

since 20 sen stock...
maybe u can give 3 bids (non mathemetical formula... so it's up to you. U can use 4 or 5 bids) as a leeway point for the stock to move up and down...
price now 275 sen.
3 bids leeway = 26 sen.
which is higher than Jerry selling point.
Wakakakaka.... LOL! ( I am so mean... tongue.gif)

Now as long as the stock is higher than 26 sen...
You STAY in the trade no matter what....

now say...
the stock moves higher 3 bid...
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to 29 sen...

huhuhu.....

now you fast hand fast leg...
move your POTONG point 3 bids higher too...
which means your point is now 275.

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Then you look at Jerry.....
OMG!
LOL!
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and then what do you have?.....

you are sitting on the stock...
riding on ur profits....

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post Feb 20 2014, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:04 AM)
It's a great idea.

Have you ever read How To Make Money in Stocks?

There's two chapters in the book that should help you greatly.

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Great info.. will take time to read and digest.. trying to learn so TA to complement FA.. laugh.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 11:16 AM

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AhLamb...

or you could look at your trade...
look at your current winning .... whistling.gif

and say....
ok... as long as I am making x amount...
I stay in....

then whenever the stock moves higher....
you MUST be greedy...
and move your min x amount of profit higher.

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post Feb 20 2014, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Feb 20 2014, 11:06 AM)
I usually grab FV from those investment firms research, but thus far, have been fairly out.
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Those FV all rubbish one... tongue.gif Take it with a grain of salt...
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post Feb 20 2014, 11:17 AM

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post Feb 20 2014, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 11:15 AM)
Great info.. will take time to read and digest.. trying to learn so TA to complement FA..  laugh.gif
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Seriously it should be a helping hand... whistling.gif

you know ...
u have a stock ...
moving strongly pass your FV...

dun tell me...
just cos it move pass, you just sell.... sweat.gif

if you know some TA...
and you read and know when to sell.....
I think it will help....

It's protecting and giving you a chance to increase your profits. biggrin.gif


Buffett was said to be reading charts when he was in his early teens. wink.gif


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post Feb 20 2014, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 11:17 AM)
i have never averaged up before... no guts  sweat.gif
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I do.

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post Feb 20 2014, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:19 AM)
laugh.gif

Seriously it should be a helping hand... whistling.gif

you know ...
u have a stock ...
moving strongly pass your FV...

dun tell me...
just cos it move pass, you just sell.... sweat.gif

if you know some TA...
and you read and know when to sell.....
I think it will help....

It's protecting and giving you a chance to increase your profits. biggrin.gif
Buffett was said to be reading charts when he was in his early teens. wink.gif
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Ya starting to practice trailing stop loss.. currently got 3 stocks already pass my FV but still zooming. wink.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 11:21 AM)
Ya starting to practice trailing stop loss.. currently got 3 stocks already pass my FV but still zooming.  wink.gif
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i know, i know which two rclxms.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 11:21 AM)
Ya starting to practice trailing stop loss.. currently got 3 stocks already pass my FV but still zooming.  wink.gif
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Here's one practice which could also help...

a bit risky..... sweat.gif


everything it goes out of your FV...

you take the stock...
move it out of your watchlist.... sweat.gif sweat.gif

You are not allowed to watch these stocks during the day.... sweat.gif

You can only see their closing or opening prices.

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Well this exercise ...... helps to calm your itchy fingers. Hihihihi.....
And most of the time....
these stocks...
they tend to move higher... and higher....

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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:22 AM)
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Shit...... Jerry is around. sweat.gif






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post Feb 20 2014, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:24 AM)
Here's one practice which could also help...

a bit risky..... sweat.gif
everything it goes out of your FV...

you take the stock...
move it out of your watchlist.... sweat.gif sweat.gif

You are not allowed to watch these stocks during the day.... sweat.gif

You can only see their closing or opening prices.

whistling.gif

Well this exercise ...... helps to calm your itchy fingers. Hihihihi.....
And most of the time....
these stocks...
they tend to move higher... and higher....

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Tak boleh tahan... how also must see.. laugh.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 11:31 AM

Why my warn is 0%? i miss my high warn
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fuuuu its great reading about how you guys view this complex share matters with such ease.

i am a newbie in all this and am struggling to understand the ups and downs of shares!!!

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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:31 AM)
fuuuu its great reading about how you guys view this complex share matters with such ease.

i am a newbie in all this and am struggling to understand the ups and downs of shares!!!

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Same here. As the old saying goes, you're bound to get burnt when you start out before you truly learn.
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post Feb 20 2014, 11:34 AM

Why my warn is 0%? i miss my high warn
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Feb 20 2014, 11:33 AM)
Same here. As the old saying goes, you're bound to get burnt when you start out before you truly learn.
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i still dare not open cds account

better listen listen read read

if got tt for live listening even beta haha
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