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 Folding Bicycles v3, Foldies come in!

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post Mar 14 2014, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(zeliustitan @ Mar 14 2014, 05:01 PM)
KL sky is clear now~~
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for one hour only .. now hazing back hehehe
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post Mar 14 2014, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Mar 14 2014, 05:23 PM)
Clear?
Which area u lookin at?
I can't see twin towers n smog is éwhere still...
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jln tun razak view from Celcom was crystal clear for 1 hour .. out of nowhere the haze came back..
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post Mar 14 2014, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(Halia @ Mar 14 2014, 06:34 PM)
To chip in my opinion on gear upgrading.  I assumed the no.1 reason of upgrading from 8/9 speed to 21++ speeds is to help climbing.  I am in the opinion that such thinking/rationale may not necessary 'sound'.  The OEM 8/9 speed in most cases are sufficient for normal climbing fits for what the original intention of the bike is for.  Sure, if one to take his/her folding bike to Genting and the like, he/she may finds 8/9 speed is insufficient.  The question is how likely are you going to ride on Genting-like road?  Even you do so (like more of the advanced cyclists), more gearing can only helps you to certain level, your up right seating geometric is 'hindering' your climbing efficiency, you will still find yourself struggling. If your are not struggling, it is likely that the climb is not steep enough and the regular 8/9 speed with reasonable fitness would just do the job fine (if you are not reasonably fit you probably won't attempted to steep climb type of ride).  In the 'normal' outing rides, even there are some parts that are steep, it usually just a short climb, you can just tahan a bit and ride over it.

In most of the situation, 8/9 speed can climbs but what is lacking is the flat road speed.  Therefore, instead of looking at increasing more speed, it make sense to have a bigger crank set, like 52T for the flat road speed.  Frankly, easily 80-90% of the ride are on flat road.

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i get the idea.. i thought that as well since my ride most of the time will be on flat road .. having said that .. speed is something i need to consider too.. well.. i am quite new in this hobby but appreciate your explaining then ..

anyway upgrading crank set will increase the speed to how many % from the current anyway? just upgrade the crank and the rest maintain in oem condition will do? correct me..

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post Mar 14 2014, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(myak9 @ Mar 14 2014, 07:40 PM)
if I am not mistaking.. you are riding a Dahon Vigor P9..
the front crank is already 52T..
if you want more speed.. you can change the rear gear set to road..
then come again.. why do you need to cycle sooo fast..
as we al know.. foldies are meant to makan..makan..and jalan..jalan..
as for fitness sake.. like me..
I choose single speed so that I can cycle more faster if I need speed..this will make my heart pump faster..
if I need to climb (only on moderate slope ) I just have to train harder so that I dun have to push my bike and been tease by my friends..
if I really need speed.. I will ride my MTB with sora cassette..
during my school days..me and my friends used to cycle round Penang Island with only 12speed racer.. for me if I can do it then..I think I still can do it if I train hard..
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When i decided to go for folding bike my intention was to have something compact, easier to transport and of course fun of riding it. As of now yes i really enjoy riding this bike and eager to explore what sort of enhancement this bike can go. Looking at its size i know it cannot par with mtb or road bike but i really want to explore the potential of this bike can deliver. It is like turbo car ..the torque and hp will depend on the turbine and other mechanical parts which help to achieved the desired HP ... nod.gif But sometimes if the setup is not engage accordingly the car with hundred ponnies also surprisingly kena tapau with small cubics. Maybe i am too ambitious since this is my first bicycle since i was in primary but your input will always welcome for me to analyse and execute thumbup.gif
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post Mar 14 2014, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(jeisern @ Mar 14 2014, 07:51 PM)
Its a mix of foldies, mtbs, roadies and mix/match, ride from Setia Alam Sen Aik Shop up to KFC hill to Tesco, go downhill, turn back out Impian 6, go to the park, make a left to Setia City Mall, go across, reach school Pin Hwa, go up a Tangki, come back go back out and ride through Tai Pan to Eco and then to Tenby.

From Tenby go back to Setia Damain Hill, then back to Sen Aik.
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Haha i really not that familiar with setia alam except for the mall rclxm9.gif but if given the right time would to take part with your group smile.gif
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post Mar 17 2014, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Mar 17 2014, 07:11 AM)
There are some points in your comment but it takes many types of riders to make a community just the same as there are many types of people in this world. But I will start with why I always mod my foldie to the max, especially on the drive train.

Once you join a group or groups and ride very frequently, you most definitely will improve and the rides will even be longer. If you say extra gears is not really a rational or sound moves, I will beg to differ in my case. The rides I ride with a few groups may last the whole day and in some occasion continuous 3 days. When I was riding Genting Peras, I started with an Eco C7 and the amount of effort to ride up , it's possible but it's also killing.  rclxub.gif  While others did it in an hour or so, I did it with my wife in over 2 hours. Later when I added another chainring, I am able to improve on my time and later when I did Fraser's Hill, I added another one after I came back from the first Fraser's ride.

Sometimes, when we are tired, we just need to 'cruise uphill'. We need to rest our legs a bit although we are still riding uphill. So we tend to ride easy but it is slow. We are like resting but still moving. If we are still on 8/9 gears, we have to stop as the lowest ratio, we still need to push hard! So, if we stop and rest, our muscles will relax and it will be hard to start again.

To sum it all, I have 3 chain rings on my Speed and 2 chain rings on my Dash. BUT I use the biggest most of the time and very rarely I use smaller chain ring (this concurs to your comments) BUT I also need the smaller chain ring there, just in case. Least but not least, there's a reason why folding bike companies comes out with 18 speed and even 30 speed folding bikes. It's just that, you need to figure out WHY do you need the foldie for? Off course if it is just to ride around the park and sweat it out, a single speed would suffice already. If you go on long rides, unfamiliar routes, the more gears I have the better prepared I am for it!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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i second you etigge .. it's like a preparation for your foot just in case you encounter such obstacles which your kaki not ready for that amount of energy to climb up .. nod.gif

anyway every cyclists have their own preference and bike setup .. such comments above are positive and based on your cycling experiences .. so i would use and consume those inputs to get the best for the bike.. and of course lah stamina is necessary not just the bike only laugh.gif

thank you for the pleasant reply

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post Mar 17 2014, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(zeliustitan @ Mar 17 2014, 11:56 AM)
any foldie wanna hit Titiwangsa Lake for a few loops? Weather seems good today...
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i would like to excuse for today and few more days ahead.. due to my back pain after some gardening torture by wifey yesterday rclxub.gif .. but the leg is so itchy to go for short ride so i might go for few rounds at my taman tonight.. hopefully weather is okay icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 17 2014, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(jenli_84 @ Mar 17 2014, 03:36 PM)
5.20pm still at work and i also dare not night time...hehehehee
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it's raining cats and dogs out there! blush.gif

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post Mar 17 2014, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(zeliustitan @ Mar 17 2014, 04:39 PM)
why you rain?????????  vmad.gif
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.. human's planning but God's willing smile.gif
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post Mar 17 2014, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(zeliustitan @ Mar 17 2014, 05:16 PM)
anyway , i m cycling home.. under the rain.. lol..
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif my turn tonight nak lepas gian ...hopefully shah alam weather is all right
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post Mar 17 2014, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(zeliustitan @ Mar 17 2014, 06:52 PM)
Thanks God no rain jus now while cycling! But bike basah and kotor!
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Get it wash thumbup.gif
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post Mar 18 2014, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Mar 18 2014, 01:05 PM)
most likely a basikal jumaat...
bromptom folds very neat.....  biggrin.gif
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basikal jumaat? apo tu shocking.gif

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post Mar 18 2014, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Mar 18 2014, 03:32 PM)
dr hon hvn't decide to put it on sale yet....
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which bike shop selling helmet or accessories at reasonable price? planning to buy one for my wife but looking below rm100 since she's not frequently cycling sweat.gif
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post Mar 18 2014, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(zeliustitan @ Mar 18 2014, 03:46 PM)
normal bike shop.. not the boutique one... can get abour RM60 to Rm90 of helmet price..
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i am staying in shah alam.. any shop recommended in that area? unsure.gif

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post Mar 18 2014, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Mar 18 2014, 03:49 PM)
bike shop around town area always charge $$$$ more than those further away....  biggrin.gif

further eg.. kimbel, kajang, dengkil, bt caves, sri serdang... etc

near: pj, subang, kl, dsara, kemuning, bgsar etc...
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thanks for the input.. hopefully shah alam consider far far away from KL cry.gif


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post Mar 18 2014, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(dannygeni @ Mar 18 2014, 03:54 PM)
sg way shop i saw around rm80. tb fooksang

lol jumaat bike also got..really many brand
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i know this shop.. near 222 there right?

this jumaat bike shop whereabout? so famous lehh? shocking.gif
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post Mar 18 2014, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(dannygeni @ Mar 18 2014, 04:03 PM)
sg way leh.nearby la but not jln 222.
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haha i get you ..thanks

anyway.. i can see you guys quite active in this forum .. wondering you guys ever organize a cycling session among forumers here? if there's a plan for such activity, kindly alert me.. smile.gif
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post Mar 19 2014, 07:19 PM

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It seems the handlebar a bit out to the left if i centered the position of the front tire. Is this normal? Try to adjust by unclamping the handlebar but it cannot turn more to the right, obstruct by tiny stopper which locking the stem... Anyone knows how to adjust this or is this factory default.

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post Mar 20 2014, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(dannygeni @ Mar 19 2014, 07:30 PM)
Mine the shop adjust for me. Alan screw adjust but don't know how. Lol
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haha .. i thought of that as well but let's DIY first ..it is not that hard i presume hmm.gif
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post Mar 20 2014, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Mar 19 2014, 09:25 PM)
On the handlebar near the folding lever (near the head tube) , there's an allen nut. I think it is 6mm nut so you need a 6mm allen key. Loosen two to three turns and then use your leg to grip the tyres (standing in front of the bike). Adjust the handle bar till it is up to your satisfaction and then tighten back the allen nut. That's it!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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thanks etigge.. you save my day. rclxms.gif . actually i did not notice the allen nut at first sight.. coz i was too busy adjusting the post .. by the way etigge any other parts usually will loosen after a while that we need to take note? wink.gif


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