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Life Sciences Future of a Biomedical Science graduate in M'SIA, what is next after the basic degree

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touix
post Feb 13 2014, 02:03 PM

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I'm a biomedical science graduate, currently working as a lecturer in IPTS.

I don't think this course is for you if you don't like doing lab works. There will be no less than 80% of subjects offered in this course require lab session. Furthermore, all of these subjects require the student to pass practical examination (apart from written final examinations).

Most of my fellow classmates during undergrad days now work as Science/Research Officer or Lab Managers. Some went for PG after graduation and embarked their career in teaching or research in IPTs. Some ended up being sales or technical reps for medical/lab equipments or drugs. Less than 10 of us now working as medical underwriter for insurance company.

Since you dislike labwork, there isn't much for you as a biomedical graduate in Malaysia at current moment. Furthermore, there is no proper human resource management in malaysia, hence you will be surprised if you could not get a decent job related to biomed after graduating.

The best you could do for now is to learn to love labwork.
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post Feb 13 2014, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(trosicky @ Feb 13 2014, 01:58 PM)
There is no such thing as Biomedical Officer ..if u grad from pharmacy, medic, dental, optometry..the job already waiting for u, unlike biomedical grad. What i meant by lack of focus is, after u grad, u have no expertise on something, u do learn pharmacology, physiology, microbiology, biochemistry etc. BUT u are not the expert on those specific subject.There is specific course for microbiology, biochemistry, pharmacy and those graduate become expert on their field. eg When a company want to hire a microbiologist, u also can say u can do microbe but microbiology graduate will have the advantages here, unless the company want to hire multi-skill worker such as microbiologist+biochemist, biomedical graduates do have advantage..My master do involve some quantum+analytical chemistry, i'm doing my master at Department of Chemistry, like i said, biomedical graduates very flexible..one more, sales executive become one of the most popular job for biomed grad...if u really like selling stuff
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There is one under SPA. Google Pegawai Sains Bioperubatan
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post Feb 13 2014, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(TheDuckster @ Feb 13 2014, 02:11 PM)
If you don't mind, will a B.Sc. in Medical Biotechnology suffice as a specialist degree? Was thinking of topping up with Masters, but not sure which will help out in job.
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mind helping out? i'm aspiring to be a lecturer. ignore butthurt on new generation from me laugh.gif

P/s: sorry to TS for thread hijack notworthy.gif
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What do you mean by specialist degree?

Afaik, Med Biotech graduates have an upper hand in terms of technicals compared to Biomed. Biomed students have better grasp on the disease biology (mechanisms behind pathogenesis, lab investigations and result interpretations), but this can differ from one uni to another.

Like in our molecular lab, we can easily pinpoint a personnel if he/she was a Biotech or Biomed graduate from the first few months. One is good with technical details, and another with background knowledge. After a few months, there will be no difference.

PG depends on what do you want to do later in life. You can take molecular if you want to work in molecular labs. A friend of mine took Masters of Dietetics and Nutrition and now she is a registered Dietitian.

If you want to do science, you have to further into PG although this cannot guarantee a secure job in our country.
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post Feb 13 2014, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(trosicky @ Feb 13 2014, 02:15 PM)
Yes i know that one, Pegawai Sains Bioperubatan aka pegawai histologi..i went to the interview last year..they only require your knowledge on histology@cell science, not biomedical as a whole
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Come on man.

Do you know what are the job scope of a Biomedicine Science officer?
Different lab applies different specialty. Some even focuses on subspecialty.

Your interview clearly shows that they need manpower in histology/pathology lab. Internal transfers between labs is common. I wouldn't be surprised if you end up in blood banks after few years.
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post Feb 13 2014, 03:02 PM

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True.

Get first class honours -> PhD -> spend sometime doing PostDoc fellow abroad -> come back as a senior lecturer with steady salary
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post Feb 13 2014, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(TheDuckster @ Feb 13 2014, 02:59 PM)
How bad it is? .____. If i'm taking Medical Biotech then how? What Masters (and/or PhD) I can and need to take to open up job possibilities?
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Find yourself a good and well connected supervisor.
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post Feb 13 2014, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(TheDuckster @ Feb 13 2014, 03:31 PM)
not sure how to find :/ i asked advice on my chosen education pathway from quite a lot of senior people, but they can't tell me much. mind giving me criteria on which people should I find?
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This link should help you.

Start hunting at your uni.
Look for the most active lab in the campus.
List down potential lecturers + their field of interest
Do background check
Meet up and initiate discussion on on-going projects
Analyze
Decide

Lets not disturb other ppl's thread. open a new one la
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post Feb 13 2014, 09:05 PM

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Gosh. You really like to write, don't you think?
1. Most commonly, you are given the title lecturer once you have completed your trainee period with proper recommmendations by head of school. And yes, you need a postgrad degree to begin with.
2. In layman's term, this program is designed to get you acquainted with clinical laboratory, medical and research sciences. You are actually in training to become a medical science scientist. Medical doctors did not get the same training as you are, nor did pharmacists although at times you can work hand-in-hand with them. The roles are clearly defined, and there is no superior-inferiority complex here. However, medical doctors and pharmacists can be scientists too, with proper training in research like you are having throughout this course.
3. Employment rate:i dont have the real figures, but my friends from other uni told me that their students also have difficulties in hunting a decent and related jobs. What we can be sure here is there is no proper human resource management in malaysia. There is no Board for medical lab scientists and technologist like nursing pharmacy and medicine. Saturation is imminent. The same goes with doctors, and other allied health professionals.
4. Credit hour for chemistry differs from one uni to another. If you could get enough hours for chemistry, you can even go for forensic (a forensic pathologist friend told me)
5. Biomeds are not assistant to anyone.
6. You can do postgrad with any topic you learn throughout your studies. You can also try getting cytotechnologist certificate (you can check with IMR).

If you are looking into ipts, be extra careful. Make sure they have full accreditation rather than provisional accreditation. Talk to the current students to get insider information before deciding your uni of choice.

Another thing. In this field, remember this keyword: all-or-nothing. Either you complete with first class honours or do something else.

Anything else?
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post Feb 22 2014, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(snowz28 @ Feb 21 2014, 01:26 PM)



Hahah yes my replies are long so that I'm sure my message is transferred clearly.
Sorry if it's bothering you (: sweat.gif  sweat.gif

- Biomeds are no assistants? Hmm but I've been told, if I work after completing my degree, my path would be limited to at most lab assistants sad.gif
- About the postgraduate studies.. You see, the uni I'm looking at.. (Taylor's) offers elective subjects starting from the 2nd year onwards. The subjects are like microbiology/human nutrition/communication..
That's why I asked if I could do masters in nutrition after my degree ( if I choose to take up the human nutrition elective). But according to the counsellor, I can't. I have to start from basic. :/
- oh gosh.. seems like biomed graduates are not any better than pharmacy/medicine students in terms of employment isit..? ( cause I've heard of how pharmacy/medicine area is overpopulated..) blink.gif
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1. No. If you mean graduate research assistant, this is different from lab assistant. In my organisation, we hire spm leavers as lab assistant.
2. A friend of mine did masters of science in human nutrition in states and become a registered dietitician. She was my classmate. No problem.

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post Mar 11 2014, 09:07 AM

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Generally, yes. If I'm not mistaken, you have to be a registered nutritionist in order for you to practice. For me, I would say all jobs that comes with a license have upper hand in a career pathway.

An analogy: they are like zebras, and we biomeds are like horses although we may share the same shadow silhouette.

 

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