Obviously u r not a pharmacist

sigh..why you choose to take science..biomed science some more?

me myself biotech graduates, working in biomed sc/medical technology/life science research environment, top public hospital..

this field has very slow career promotion, close to none industrial opportunities and not even recognised as professionals..

better take pharmacy, optometrist, nutritionist, chemist, or others which has some sort of professional recognition..

if u insist, like wat i did, the best options is to score first class..go direct to your phd..and options will open ups after that..else with average degree..u will end up as sales reps..or lab rats..hehe

ps: oh dont ever thinks of science officer position..it s one of the worst job scheme for gomen..but if you really like lay back, lab works all the time, in the hospital..can give a try...

How bad it is? .____. If i'm taking Medical Biotech then how? What Masters (and/or PhD) I can and need to take to open up job possibilities?

True.

Get first class honours -> PhD -> spend sometime doing PostDoc fellow abroad -> come back as a senior lecturer with steady salary

Find yourself a good and well connected supervisor.

not sure how to find :/ i asked advice on my chosen education pathway from quite a lot of senior people, but they can't tell me much. mind giving me criteria on which people should I find?

This link should help you.

Start hunting at your uni.
Look for the most active lab in the campus.
List down potential lecturers + their field of interest
Do background check
Meet up and initiate discussion on on-going projects
Analyze
Decide

Lets not disturb other ppl's thread. open a new one la

dun nid la, thats all i need

Sorry, TS

hurm..the path to phd is a different story pulak..after your degree, which can be anywhere, but of course minimum CGPA should be >3.4..choose your core field of interest first, then you know where to find the best in the field supervisor or among the best in the world..try to get the supervisor with your title or research topic then try apply to the uni..after that follow the flow loh, whether u do direct phd..or 1+3 integrated master n phd also got..only keypoint is..you must be really good in your topic..

back to ts..if u dont like neither lab work nor biology..why choose biomed?

if really hate labwork..can choose biology with education..teachers also earn not bad nowadays..else left sales job..or clinical research associate..or insurance..very limited..

The interviewer clearly said the Biomedical Science officer actually for Histo lab only, i ask them that question because i did my major in biochemistry and microbiology. I thought maybe becoz no other courses that teach Histology. That post still new that time, during my intern no such thing as Biomedic officer, the nearest one is Pegawai sains C41/biochem, got one senior hold that position.

QUOTE(touix @ Feb 13 2014, 02:03 PM)

I'm a biomedical science graduate, currently working as a lecturer in IPTS.

I don't think this course is for you if you don't like doing lab works. There will be no less than 80% of subjects offered in this course require lab session. Furthermore, all of these subjects require the student to pass practical examination (apart from written final examinations).

Most of my fellow classmates during undergrad days now work as Science/Research Officer or Lab Managers. Some went for PG after graduation and embarked their career in teaching or research in IPTs. Some ended up being sales or technical reps for medical/lab equipments or drugs. Less than 10 of us now working as medical underwriter for insurance company.

Since you dislike labwork, there isn't much for you as a biomedical graduate in Malaysia at current moment. Furthermore, there is no proper human resource management in malaysia, hence you will be surprised if you could not get a decent job related to biomed after graduating.

The best you could do for now is to learn to love labwork.

Hello there! (:
Yes I am aware of the crazy amount of lab works.
But considering my doubts on medicine and pharmacy, would you still say I shouldn't do biomed..?
Since you're a lecturer, which I thought before as an aim, does that mean you have already achieved your masters/phD..?

I know I am taking a huge jump of risk here, but I really gave a lot of thoughts in this.
I went from medicine.. to pharmacy.. to this..
I also understand that it is not a specialised/professional degree yet. Therefore, is it considered inferior as to pharmacy and medicine..? I bet it does.. huh.. :/

Another reason I've considered this is that a counsellor told me that this course is more like a "ticket" to enter the science field. She said that when I graduate this, I can then choose my specialisation whether to further study into masters ( by choosing a SPECIFIC major) .... or I could always enter the working field.
This was also a reason why I hesitated on pharmacy. Since I am so unsure, getting into pharmacy which is quite a narrow path would be inappropriate.. no?

And since you're so experienced, can you tell me more about the employment rates in Malaysia..? Is it decent..?
I was told to put my aim into countries like Singapore since Malaysia doesn't recognize biomed roles ( same goes to pharmacy)

And yes, I will try hard to love lab works. If I get into this, I would have to work extra hard to love bio then (:
Does chemistry take up a big portion? Personally enjoys chemistry more heh

OH. And I would love to know what further study I can do after my Biomed degree..?

My parent asked about medicine.
The counsellor told us that Biomed is basically an "assistant" for doctors..
But if graduates want to upgrade to medicine, he/she has to start from the basic.

Is there any science masters I can enter upon completing my biomed degree..?
THANKS

QUOTE(nite_eif @ Feb 13 2014, 04:05 PM)

back to ts..if u dont like neither lab work nor biology..why choose biomed? 

if really hate labwork..can choose biology with education..teachers also earn not bad nowadays..else left sales job..or clinical research associate..or insurance..very limited..

Why choose biomed..?
Hahhaha I've been receiving repeated questions as these.
But i understand.. I sound pathetic, dont I..?

But really, do listen to my considerations.
I always wanted to do science, been doing all 3 since form4 till my pre-u.
I enjoy chemistry the most, biology the least.
However, i dont know why, my biology is always better than my physics, although I am pretty sure I poured every bit of brain juice for my physics.
Maybe it was my pre-u syllabus.. It focuses more on animals and plants, something I can relate to daily life, not too much of cells..

Nonetheless, I always wanted medicine. But I know I am not able to invest such a huge amount of money and time to persue something I am not even 60% sure I can endure. I intended to be an obstetrician, if you may ask.. but I was naive to not consider how much and how long I have to study. After realizing that, Medicine totally got out of the list

Thus, that leaves me indirectly to pharmacy. I did my research online and watched testimonies online.
Most of them are negative, and I don't just say this after watching a few. I watched at least 10.
Plus, I asked counsellors and viewed blogposts.. The problems about the field getting too saturated with umemployed graduates... unrecognition of pharmacy role... insane amount of debt to be cleared after course..
That's why I started doubting. Pharmacy is not a cheap course as well. Plus, it needs at least 6 years.
Moreover, I was adviced to think about the flexibility of this profession.
An adult told me " Engineering students can end up in banks or companies that require their maths brains, but pharmacy is quite narrow, if you don't see yourself opening a pharmacy or working in a clinic for the long run.. what company wants you..? "
( A counsellor said Biomed is like a ticket to the various science professionals. As in we get to master in specific fields, science fields she meant... is this true? Or i have to start from scratch for every masters :/)

HENCE, I tried so hard to find other health related science degrees. I know there are more like chiropractic.. psychology.. but no, I am more of the medicine side.
Since I can't do medicine or pharmacy, the one closest is biomedical science.. no?
I rejected this at first, because I know how they say about being in the lab 24/7.
But I have to deal with something right. And I found out about the fees and duration.
It looks a lot lighter and brighter than the above choices I had...

This explains why I chose biomed, as ridiculous as I sound, I did not do this without thinking deep.
I did, maybe a little too deep? hahaha I dont know.
But you're telling me about the negative sides...
are there really no bright sides of it..?

Besides this, I really don't know what to do anymore. Besides, biomed is 3 years.
If I really suck in it, I can endure 3 years.
But for pharmacy, its doubled.... that's another reason.

BASICALLY. I just need a ticket pass to enter science field.
To continue masters or start working after that, I shall decide when I am near to graduating...

SIGH. I NEED POSITIVE REMARKS. at the brink of breaking down ):

Why don't u enter pure science course? like Biology, Biotech, Biochem...a lot of other courses also can enter science field.

If u really want biomedical science, u should pursue master/phd after graduate, become expert on the field that u interested and land the job as researcher or become lecturer.
I believe this is one of the best path for u if u really want biomed.

Best of luck

Gosh. You really like to write, don't you think?
1. Most commonly, you are given the title lecturer once you have completed your trainee period with proper recommmendations by head of school. And yes, you need a postgrad degree to begin with.
2. In layman's term, this program is designed to get you acquainted with clinical laboratory, medical and research sciences. You are actually in training to become a medical science scientist. Medical doctors did not get the same training as you are, nor did pharmacists although at times you can work hand-in-hand with them. The roles are clearly defined, and there is no superior-inferiority complex here. However, medical doctors and pharmacists can be scientists too, with proper training in research like you are having throughout this course.
3. Employment rate:i dont have the real figures, but my friends from other uni told me that their students also have difficulties in hunting a decent and related jobs. What we can be sure here is there is no proper human resource management in malaysia. There is no Board for medical lab scientists and technologist like nursing pharmacy and medicine. Saturation is imminent. The same goes with doctors, and other allied health professionals.
4. Credit hour for chemistry differs from one uni to another. If you could get enough hours for chemistry, you can even go for forensic (a forensic pathologist friend told me)
5. Biomeds are not assistant to anyone.
6. You can do postgrad with any topic you learn throughout your studies. You can also try getting cytotechnologist certificate (you can check with IMR).

If you are looking into ipts, be extra careful. Make sure they have full accreditation rather than provisional accreditation. Talk to the current students to get insider information before deciding your uni of choice.

Another thing. In this field, remember this keyword: all-or-nothing. Either you complete with first class honours or do something else.

Anything else?

QUOTE(trosicky @ Feb 13 2014, 08:34 PM)

Why don't u enter pure science course? like Biology, Biotech, Biochem...a lot of other courses also can enter science field.

If u really want biomedical science, u should pursue master/phd after graduate, become expert on the field that u interested and land the job as researcher or become lecturer.
I believe this is one of the best path for u if u really want biomed.

Best of luck

awww thanks (:
I would try my very best.
If i really can't survive, I would think of other ways after my degree.
Righht now, I just want to get thru this. hopefully I will grow to love it (:

Are you a biomed student too?
Any tips like what should I study or brush up..? hahah
Abit paranoid here cause my intake starts in less than a month ^^

QUOTE(touix @ Feb 13 2014, 09:05 PM)

Gosh. You really like to write, don't you think?
1.  Most commonly, you are given the title lecturer once you have completed your trainee period with proper recommmendations by head of school. And yes, you need a postgrad degree to begin with.
2. In layman's term, this program is designed to get you acquainted with clinical laboratory, medical and research sciences. You are actually in training to become a medical science scientist. Medical doctors did not get the same training as you are, nor did pharmacists although at times you can work hand-in-hand with them. The roles are clearly defined, and there is no superior-inferiority complex here. However, medical doctors and pharmacists can be scientists too, with proper training in research like you are having throughout this course.
3. Employment rate:i dont have the real figures, but my friends from other uni told me that their students also have difficulties in hunting a decent and related jobs. What we can be sure here is there is no proper human resource management in malaysia. There is no Board for medical lab scientists and technologist like nursing pharmacy and medicine. Saturation is imminent. The same goes with doctors, and other allied health professionals.
4. Credit hour for chemistry differs from one uni to another. If you could get enough hours for chemistry, you can even go for forensic (a forensic pathologist friend told me)
5. Biomeds are not assistant to anyone.
6. You can do postgrad with any topic you learn throughout your studies. You can also try getting cytotechnologist certificate (you can check with IMR).

If you are looking into ipts, be extra careful. Make sure they have full accreditation rather than provisional accreditation. Talk to the current students to get insider information before deciding your uni of choice.

Another thing. In this field, remember this keyword: all-or-nothing. Either you complete with first class honours or do something else.

Anything else?

Hahah yes my replies are long so that I'm sure my message is transferred clearly.
Sorry if it's bothering you (:

- Biomeds are no assistants? Hmm but I've been told, if I work after completing my degree, my path would be limited to at most lab assistants
- About the postgraduate studies.. You see, the uni I'm looking at.. (Taylor's) offers elective subjects starting from the 2nd year onwards. The subjects are like microbiology/human nutrition/communication..
That's why I asked if I could do masters in nutrition after my degree ( if I choose to take up the human nutrition elective). But according to the counsellor, I can't. I have to start from basic. :/
- oh gosh.. seems like biomed graduates are not any better than pharmacy/medicine students in terms of employment isit..? ( cause I've heard of how pharmacy/medicine area is overpopulated..)

1. No. If you mean graduate research assistant, this is different from lab assistant. In my organisation, we hire spm leavers as lab assistant.
2. A friend of mine did masters of science in human nutrition in states and become a registered dietitician. She was my classmate. No problem.

This post has been edited by touix: Feb 22 2014, 02:25 PM

touix would you say that Nutritionists have a steadier career path than Biomedical science grads?

Generally, yes. If I'm not mistaken, you have to be a registered nutritionist in order for you to practice. For me, I would say all jobs that comes with a license have upper hand in a career pathway.

An analogy: they are like zebras, and we biomeds are like horses although we may share the same shadow silhouette.