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post Mar 7 2014, 05:13 PM

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post Mar 9 2014, 10:53 AM

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Cleverley will be awarded a new 5 years contract.

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Manchester United are ready to give Tom Cleverley — the target of scathing criticism from fans of both the club and England — a new five-year deal worth £15million.
The vote of confidence will be a welcome boost for the 24-year-old midfielder as he bids to cement a place in England’s World Cup squad this summer.


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post Mar 9 2014, 10:53 AM

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Cleverley will be awarded a new 5 years contract.

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Manchester United are ready to give Tom Cleverley — the target of scathing criticism from fans of both the club and England — a new five-year deal worth £15million.
The vote of confidence will be a welcome boost for the 24-year-old midfielder as he bids to cement a place in England’s World Cup squad this summer.


U JELLY?
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post Mar 10 2014, 10:10 AM

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Chill la. RVP ain't going nowhere. Media stories stirring up troubles as usual.
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post Mar 10 2014, 03:08 PM

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I doubt Moyes will stop playing Clevz. He is on the verge of getting a new contract, Moyes likes him, Roy Hodgson likes him.
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post Mar 10 2014, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(onepack @ Mar 10 2014, 05:18 PM)
cleverley should be train to be understudy for carrick. he can pass and hold the ball very good. in time he can be really good holding CM like carrick but for now he's not there yet maybe coz he is different type of player early of his career
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Honestly, I feel Cleverley is more suited of an attacking role instead of a holding role. Previously he played well as a CAM. He goes forward alot and delivers some pretty nice attacking balls forward.. now everything is just backwards or sideways. sweat.gif
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post Mar 12 2014, 02:27 PM

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Semua salah Glazers. Everything American. Even shirt brand must stick to American. :/
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post Mar 13 2014, 09:08 PM

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Top 5 defenders ever to play in the BPL by the experts:

MARTIN KEOWN (Yup him...who've thought?)

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1. Jaap Stam   
What Man Utd achieved with him there made it an outrage that he was allowed to leave. Without him, they wouldn’t have won the treble.

2. Sol Campbell and 3. Tony Adams
Two of my colleagues who I played with, and we all complimented each other’s game. Tony had such fantastic leadership qualities and Sol was like a run-away train when he got going.

4. Vincent Kompany
He is now such an outstanding player and his qualities are obvious because of the players around him.

5. Rio Ferdinand
Roy Hodgson had to choose between Rio and John Terry, and I’m having the same difficulty. Terry is a fantastic player but I played with Rio early in his career and he was so calm. He developed so well, was quick and he became a ruthless defender.
At first I was running past him to cover him and I thought he needed to work on his game, but it wasn’t like that towards the end of my career! He kept running past me!


LEE CLAYTON

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1. Rio Ferdinand; 2.Tony Adams; 3. John Terry; 4. Jamie Carragher; 5. Steve Bruce
Six titles for Ferdinand. A wonderful, gifted defender. If he had been Italian, Spanish, German or Dutch… you know how the rest goes. The other four would head it away. Kompany can play out from the back and defend for his life, but he doesn’t make my top five. Not yet, anyway.


IAN LADYMAN

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1. Nemanja Vidic; 2. Jaap Stam; 3. Rio Ferdinand; 4. John Terry; 5. Tony Adams.
Football has changed but the art of the central defender hasn’t. Tackle them, head it, clear it. These guys have all been masters of the nuts and bolts of their trade. A couple of them could even pass the ball in a straight line, too.
MATT LAWTON
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1. Rio Ferdinand; 2. John Terry; 3. Nemanja Vidic; 4. Jaap Stam; 5. Sol Campbell.
It is so difficult to select just five given the quality of the central defenders we have had in the Premier League over the last 20 or so years. But for me, these five had everything – a commanding presence, ability on the ball and, most important of all, they were natural born leaders.


Most of them mentioned Rio and Jaap Stam. Gotta agree that they were incredible during their peak, such a pity Stam didn't last long in the club, would've been a great legend and idol to the younger generations.

Source: SOS



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post Mar 14 2014, 10:08 AM

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Portuguese league? Raid them for Jackson Martinez, Mangala and William Cavarlho and the league is ours. Lolol. Just send on cross in, Martinez will do the rest. Pace, strength, accuracy, what else do you want? Mangala is another gem, quick, strong and matured for his age.

Inb4 FM that way >>>>
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post Mar 14 2014, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(onepack @ Mar 14 2014, 10:23 AM)
i think mangala very realistic target. wt vidic leaving probably rio too.
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Yup but it's kinda sad if Rio leaves/retire. He's not really that old, probably can be like Giggs, sporadic player.
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post Mar 14 2014, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Mar 14 2014, 11:25 AM)
errr you referring to me? sweat.gif

When and where?
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Sunday. Venue TBC.

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post Mar 17 2014, 11:01 AM

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I feel that critics on Rafael was harsh. The handball was unintentional, it's a natural human reaction and it's not as if he wanted to touch the ball with his hand, Suarez just made it look as if he deliberately handled the ball. Later on in the game, Rafael went in cleanly but Suarez held his legs as if Rafael broke his shin, as usual the damsel in distress is such a good actor. Sure he is a good player but he will never change his attitude. Disgusting.

I would agree that we played poorly. The whole team was a let down. On papers, this is probably the best squad ever to be starting under Moyes reign! such a pity Smalling had to pull out last minute, we would've played better defensively.

I already lost my respect for Vidic since the day his announcement to leave the club in Feb to join Inter. He is no longer the captain I respect, such a selfish and coward act for him to do so. Why can't he wait til the end of the season?

All in all, another bad day in the office. Rooney was horrible, for a player earning 300k, that was below subpar. Players who earns that amount of money are usually game changers, Rooney? Not even close.
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post Mar 17 2014, 11:16 AM

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Rafael is inconsistent with his displays, at times he is reckless, at times he is sublime. He needs to learn more from experienced players, he can be a great player if he keeps his calm and not make reckless tackles like yesterday.

Our CBs are worrying. Jones is injury prone, Evans and Smalling are good but when they are out, leaving us with 2 older players in Rio and Vida. I hope we sign at least 2 CBs in the summer, to cover up what we are missing this season, a consistent CB.

Joe Allen played well last night, he made Fellaini look normal. Lol. Mata on the other hand, is wasted on the Flanks. He needs to be in the middle. If only Moyes has the guts to bench Rooney and deploy Mata behind RVP, our game would be faster.
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post Mar 17 2014, 03:08 PM

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Rooney needs to be dropped. Right now he thinks that he is the star man of the team, untouchable with a commanding salary of 300k per week. Moyes needs to assert his authority like what SAF did. No one is bigger than the club, that includes the manager.

If Rooney is underperforming, bench him. Make him understand that the game is all about performance, just because that you are some attention-seeking 'Wazza' doesn't mean that you are untouchable. Give chance to others to occupy that role, I'm sure Mata/Kags will do a better job in supplying the ball to RVP.

Rooney-RVP pairing is disappointing this season. If my memory serves me right, our total goal tally this is season is slightly over 40 goals only? Heck, what is wrong here? At times we are playing overly cautious, too defensively, at times making stupid crosses into the box to no-man's land etc. My patience for this nonsense is done for. Sure I don't purely blame everything on Moyes, the players are responsible for the slump too. As some said, one step forward, 3 steps back. Win one game, lose the next two.

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post Mar 18 2014, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(seizer @ Mar 18 2014, 01:38 PM)
United was just unlucky last night.
Penalty should have been given to rooney
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post Mar 18 2014, 01:59 PM

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As of now, I don't see any reason that David Moyes should be sacked with immediate effect, as there are no suitable vacant replacement yet. Also by sacking halfway through the season, it will bring MORE instability to the club and will ridicule SAF's choice of a ideal candidate (although he is not the 'chosen' one anymore).

If the axe is fallen, it will be after this season (most likely). The Glazers knows that everyone is frustrated, including SAF himself (based on his facial expression), but then again, how long does the Old Trafford hierarchy have to wait until the bubble is burst? Not long now.

One if David Moyes biggest flaws is his ability to make a proper press conference and interview session. He is trying to be modest at times but this is not how it works. Next, his man management is questionable too. He is afraid of Wayne Rooney. He is afraid to drop him even when he is not performing, he allows Wayne to swindle the club to get 300k per week, and the possibility of him being club captain is very high.

If you ask me, Rooney does not deserved to be the club captain at all. One, he threaten to quit the club, TWICE? Second, he does not have a level-head on the pitch, making him unpredictable. Next, his performance on the pitch is questionable at times. One game he is good, the other he plays like a lost soul.

If you ask me, I'd rather the club give the captaincy to Johnny Evans. Never gonna happen. Sigh
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post Mar 18 2014, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Mar 18 2014, 04:42 PM)
No offence, Rooney is too hot headed, and lose his temper too much to qualify as a captain. But no doubt his footballing skill is great, but he certainly can't be a captain.
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None taken. I agree on his temper-related issues too. Hence he is unpredictable, you'll never know what he will do next.

QUOTE(sunblaze @ Mar 18 2014, 04:57 PM)
Agreed on pretty much everything.

Didn't think of Evans for the captaincy though. He definitely has his merits: came up through the ranks, not prone to rash bursts of explosive rage/stupid frustrated tackles/talking his way into a card, older than the younger guys in the squad (DDG/Jones/Smalling/Januzaj), definitely staying around unlike some of the others with murky futures. Main thing against is he doesn't quite have the commanding presence/aura compared to our past captains.

The team situation now reminds me of AC Milan in recent seasons. We got the 30year old players on big pay who might be on their way out or are winding down from their peak, and we got the younger fellas who need 3-4 years more before they start nearing their peak years. Players in their peak who can inspire the team? Not so much.
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Since Evans is included in the 'potential' captain list, I highly support if he gets the role. Players like Carrick, Scholes, Evans, Giggs etc are real footballers. They are not materialistic, branded here and there or fueled by controversies. They only focus on playing football, not anything else. These players are respectable, not those that demands wage increment every 2 years and demands to leave the club if they dont increase their salary. Pffttt
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post Mar 19 2014, 01:36 PM

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SAF overachieved? Lol.

SAF took years to build his reputation. He has that fear in him that every single player is afraid of him. His tongue is as deadly as a serpent. 'Superstars' in the team are made to fear him, he does not allow any single player to get over his head. Good example? David Beckham, Ruud Van Nistelrooy, Wayne Rooney and Roy Keane. Why? Because he is the manager and the players are paid to listen and obey to the manager.

David Moyes is a direct opposite. He fears that the players will not treat him the same way as they did to SAF hence he gave in to their desires and greed. Simple example is Wayne Rooney. As I've mentioned before, he is no where near the player that he was before. His head is clouded by greed and fame. The question is, why isn't Moyes dropping Rooney even if he is not at his best? SAF would've benched him by then. The simple theory, Moyes is afraid of upsetting him. Simple.

The reason why the fans/supporters are furious is because of the string of results that is relatively shocking. Yes I agree that we are going to end the season trophyless, but not to the extend of being humiliated by all of our rivals except Arsenal. I've never seen a team of players under the name of Manchester United Football Club playing without passion, objectives and that 'never-say-die' attitude. Where has it gone to?

Whenever we are trailing the game, I will always expect a fight-back. 90 mins, still full of optimism. These days, after the 80th minute, you can catch 40 winks and you won't see the spirited United fighting back anymore. Even when we are leading by a single goal, the tactic is to: 'Defend the lead'. How many times has it happened to us?

Sure our squad is hitting the decline stage. Players like Vidic, Evra, Carrick, Rio are way past 30 years of age, they can no longer compete with the fast paced tempo of the league. Why not give the chance to younger players? I do agree that we were hit by constant injuries with the likes of Jones / Evans/ Smalling being injured too often but that is not the main blaming point. The forwards deserved the sticks too. RVP is really out of shape this season, Hernandez is not getting enough games and his form is dipping drastically.

The signing of Mata is one of the highlights of the season. But the question is, why did he sign Mata when there are 2 more players competing for the same position that he is operating in? Sure Mata is willing to play on the wings, but of late, he is not contributing much from the wings. Mata is a sharp player, he knows when to deliver the ball, when to split open defenses. Why wouldn't Moyes drop Rooney and let Mata play behind RVP?

Don't get me started on the 'weird' tactics this season. Playing long-ball against Stoke City in a windy condition, playing a game with 80+ crosses with 0 end product in one game. This is not the football that the club should be playing. Sure I can be patient and watch the club regain it's soon to be past glory, but if Moyes continues to deploy sure ignorant tactics, we will not be going anywhere.

Tonight (might) be the last night for us to experience Champions League football for many years to come if he continues to play this way. As much as I respect David Moyes as a manager of my beloved club, I feel that he needs to reconsider his tactics and go back to the drawing board.

PS: Stop overplaying Januzaj. The kid needs a break.
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post Mar 19 2014, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(johnny82 @ Mar 19 2014, 06:11 PM)
predicting final score of 3-1
out on away goal aggregate
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QUOTE(axllent @ Mar 19 2014, 08:02 PM)
I will say united win 1-0
Last minute goal
Olympiakos surely will sit tight drop deeper and play us with counter attack
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post Mar 20 2014, 09:59 PM

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So we live to fight another day. That's good.

Next game is a tough one :/

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