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g9000z
post Feb 5 2014, 10:55 AM, updated 12y ago

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Forumer you are complaining against: Pisangzbiasa

Item being sold/bought: Avexir White LED RAM 4x4GB

Original thread link: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3110550&hl=

Date of transaction: 27th January 2014

Details of the complaint :

I'm still not sure whether I got scam or not, I know this guy is a new member, I just take my chances for the RAM which cost me RM360 alltogether
I see the thread looks okay, with picture and I already check in google and lowyat forum his account number, nothing comes out.
I want to pay him with GIRO, but he request for an instant transfer (I'm using CIMB) and he say, will give me RM2 cut, so I transfer RM358. And then he ask for the receipt, so I emailed him the CIMB receipt.

He said ady posted the items via Pos Ekspress, which means using envelop in 28th January 2014, but there is CNY holiday from 30th Jan 2014 - 3rd Feb 2014
so the 'real' days undelivered is 3 days.

I get the tracking number, but no record...
ady emailed Pos Malaysia asking for the status, but no reply until now.

He is saying that the item is at HQ, and HQ will post it to me but when I asked where is the HQ, no answer. So... no more contact with him until today.

His account number is
151240207873 maybank
muhammad syahmi

UPDATE!!

Pos Malaysia reply my postage enquiry email, saying that the tracking number is not recorded in the system
This guy confirmed as a conman, there is another LYN guy lover44, PM me saying that he also bought the RAM from this damn Pisang but never delivered the stuffs. mad.gif mad.gif


UPDATE 24/02/2014
There is similar pattern comes out again, found out by LYN user acexii
Be careful !!

QUOTE(acexii @ Feb 23 2014, 05:42 PM)
Mod please check. Possible another id U.R.A.N.I.U.M

Same pattern posting, ask price randomly in sales thread to boast post count, after that open thread to sell his thing.

Watch out.
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UPDATE 25/02/2014[cool.gif
After getting help from bro nGeeMoN, we are able to track back the IP of the scammer.
And bro huajun1223 also post similar scammer complain in Dispute Resolution Corner ( refer here -> Beware of Intruder Troops! <- Scammer )
Found out that the IP owner is arepeace92 and he didn't know anything that the scammer using his IP to scam in LYN, so he was framed.

The framed guy explain that the scammer is his neighbour and they know each other well, so the framed guy let his neighbour to use his WIFI.
Last night the framed guy started to refund back every victim's money (but mine still pending bcos the victims are many, he runs out of money ady) and we suggest him to confront the scammer quickly to get back all his money that is used to refund the victims.

These days u can't even trust your well known neighbour… doh.gif doh.gif

This post has been edited by g9000z: Feb 25 2014, 09:45 PM
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post Feb 5 2014, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(g9000z @ Feb 5 2014, 10:55 AM)
Forumer you are complaining against: Pisangzbiasa

Item being sold/bought: Avexir White LED RAM 4x4GB

Original thread link: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3110550&hl=

Date of transaction: 27th January 2014

Details of the complaint :

I'm still not sure whether I got scam or not, I know this guy is a new member, I just take my chances for the RAM which cost me RM360 alltogether
I see the thread looks okay, with picture and I already check in google and lowyat forum his account number, nothing comes out.
I want to pay him with GIRO, but he request for an instant transfer (I'm using CIMB) and he say, will give me RM2 cut, so I transfer RM358. And then he ask for the receipt, so I emailed him the CIMB receipt.

He said ady posted the items via Pos Ekspress, which means using envelop in 28th January 2014, but there is CNY holiday from 30th Jan 2014 - 3rd Feb 2014
so the 'real' days undelivered is 3 days.

I get the tracking number, but no record...
ady emailed Pos Malaysia asking for the status, but no reply until now.

He is saying that the item is at HQ, and HQ will post it to me but when I asked where is the HQ, no answer. So... no more contact with him until today.

His account number is
151240207873 maybank
muhammad syahmi

If I'm really scammed, is there any way to track back this person?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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His account is offline since 30 Jan 2014 - check with the others on his thread as well. Poslaju should have delivered your item by now. Emailing Poslaju is way too slow to get a response. Call Poslaju at 1-300-300-300 - may take a few (or A LOT) of tries before you get through.

Good luck bro!
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post Feb 5 2014, 12:01 PM

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high possibility u are conned.
Opened few threads on 24 Jan and closed on 26th.

If anymore ppl going to open thread about him then its confirmed.

Until then, you can only pray and hope its delay from Pos Malaysia due to holiday season.
Good Luck
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post Feb 5 2014, 07:04 PM

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seller mcm ni lah yg buat member baru mcm saya sukar untuk dapat kepercayaan...
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post Feb 5 2014, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(mohdmsem @ Feb 5 2014, 07:04 PM)
seller mcm ni lah yg buat member baru mcm saya sukar untuk dapat kepercayaan...
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bro beli seller yg biasa org deal sudah....lingloong ka...idealtech ka...hikari85 ka...gbros tue semua slalu org deal...dipercayai...
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post Feb 5 2014, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(Acap1986 @ Feb 5 2014, 09:12 PM)
bro beli seller yg biasa org deal sudah....lingloong ka...idealtech ka...hikari85 ka...gbros tue semua slalu org deal...dipercayai...
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yeap u r correct! better purchase from well known seller
if no choice, make sure do a LOT of checking!
this deal I got unlucky..
before this I got deal with unknown seller also no problem..this time I caught off-guard (u can say so)
just dont simply bank in money in the 1st place and the seller normally will push u very hard for bank in, be very careful with this situation


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post Feb 5 2014, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(g9000z @ Feb 5 2014, 08:36 PM)
yeap u r correct! better purchase from well known seller
if no choice, make sure do a LOT of checking!
this deal I got unlucky..
before this I got deal with unknown seller also no problem..this time I caught off-guard (u can say so)
just dont simply bank in money in the 1st place and the seller normally will push u very hard for bank in, be very careful with this situation
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i also sell my previous i5 3570K still new on selling but dont have any problem wink.gif...as long u JUJUR no problem boss... rclxms.gif

and among of seller that mention above i always deal with lingloong ( https://forum.lowyat.net/user/lingloong )

he really good and always give me best price wink.gif 12 or 13 times deal...only 1 postage others cod...coz no time hahaha

This post has been edited by Acap1986: Feb 5 2014, 09:00 PM
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post Feb 5 2014, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(g9000z @ Feb 5 2014, 10:55 AM)
Forumer you are complaining against: Pisangzbiasa

Item being sold/bought: Avexir White LED RAM 4x4GB

Original thread link: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3110550&hl=

Date of transaction: 27th January 2014

Details of the complaint :

I'm still not sure whether I got scam or not, I know this guy is a new member, I just take my chances for the RAM which cost me RM360 alltogether
I see the thread looks okay, with picture and I already check in google and lowyat forum his account number, nothing comes out.
I want to pay him with GIRO, but he request for an instant transfer (I'm using CIMB) and he say, will give me RM2 cut, so I transfer RM358. And then he ask for the receipt, so I emailed him the CIMB receipt.

He said ady posted the items via Pos Ekspress, which means using envelop in 28th January 2014, but there is CNY holiday from 30th Jan 2014 - 3rd Feb 2014
so the 'real' days undelivered is 3 days.

I get the tracking number, but no record...
ady emailed Pos Malaysia asking for the status, but no reply until now.

He is saying that the item is at HQ, and HQ will post it to me but when I asked where is the HQ, no answer. So... no more contact with him until today.

His account number is
151240207873 maybank
muhammad syahmi

If I'm really scammed, is there any way to track back this person?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Khalifah dibumi,

"MENCARI REZEKI YANG HALAL" - weh khalifa ang taw ka makne ayat neh???
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post Feb 6 2014, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(Acap1986 @ Feb 5 2014, 10:02 PM)
Khalifah dibumi,

"MENCARI REZEKI YANG HALAL" - weh khalifa ang taw ka makne ayat neh???
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Ya lor, how dare this fellow write those stuffs while conning people.. tsk tsk how irresponsible


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post Feb 6 2014, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(g9000z @ Feb 6 2014, 05:14 PM)
Ya lor, how dare this fellow write those stuffs while conning people.. tsk tsk how irresponsible
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jgn sembang bab halal haram kalo ang kaki kencing mad.gif vmad.gif

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post Feb 9 2014, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(g9000z @ Feb 5 2014, 10:55 AM)
Forumer you are complaining against: Pisangzbiasa

Item being sold/bought: Avexir White LED RAM 4x4GB

Original thread link: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3110550&hl=

Date of transaction: 27th January 2014

Details of the complaint :

I'm still not sure whether I got scam or not, I know this guy is a new member, I just take my chances for the RAM which cost me RM360 alltogether
I see the thread looks okay, with picture and I already check in google and lowyat forum his account number, nothing comes out.
I want to pay him with GIRO, but he request for an instant transfer (I'm using CIMB) and he say, will give me RM2 cut, so I transfer RM358. And then he ask for the receipt, so I emailed him the CIMB receipt.

He said ady posted the items via Pos Ekspress, which means using envelop in 28th January 2014, but there is CNY holiday from 30th Jan 2014 - 3rd Feb 2014
so the 'real' days undelivered is 3 days.

I get the tracking number, but no record...
ady emailed Pos Malaysia asking for the status, but no reply until now.

He is saying that the item is at HQ, and HQ will post it to me but when I asked where is the HQ, no answer. So... no more contact with him until today.

His account number is
151240207873 maybank
muhammad syahmi

UPDATE!!

Pos Malaysia reply my postage enquiry email, saying that the tracking number is not recorded in the system

This guy confirmed as a conman, there is another LYN guy (he/she don't want me to disclose his/her name yet) PM me saying that he also bought the RAM from this damn Pisang but never delivered the stuffs.  mad.gif  mad.gif
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He's now active at Mobile Phones Garage < be caution!
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post Feb 9 2014, 06:48 PM

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his lyn id is pisangzbiasa? tongue.gif
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post Feb 9 2014, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(penanghomes @ Feb 9 2014, 07:48 PM)
his lyn id is pisangzbiasa? tongue.gif
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yeah, u r correct, just be careful. tho i dont think he will ever pop up again in LYN
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post Feb 10 2014, 03:38 PM

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Sorry to hear that thread starter and I'm also the victim of him. He posted few items for sale but now all closed.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...ult_type=topics

He con our money but it is ok cause he will get his retribution. What goes around comes around. smile.gif
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post Feb 23 2014, 04:42 PM

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Mod please check. Possible another id U.R.A.N.I.U.M

Same pattern posting, ask price randomly in sales thread to boast post count, after that open thread to sell his thing.

Watch out.
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post Feb 24 2014, 02:57 PM

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post Feb 24 2014, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(nGeeMoN @ Feb 24 2014, 02:57 PM)
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I know where she live..  icon_idea.gif
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he or she?
you are so cekap la brader.. rclxms.gif
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post Feb 24 2014, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(burn_wan @ Feb 24 2014, 03:23 PM)
he or she?
you are so cekap la brader.. rclxms.gif
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panjang cerita.. nak tau pm.. rclxms.gif
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post Feb 24 2014, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(burn_wan @ Feb 24 2014, 04:23 PM)
he or she?
you are so cekap la brader.. rclxms.gif
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This 'she', who are u referring to??? icon_question.gif

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post Feb 24 2014, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(acexii @ Feb 23 2014, 05:42 PM)
Mod please check. Possible another id U.R.A.N.I.U.M

Same pattern posting, ask price randomly in sales thread to boast post count, after that open thread to sell his thing.

Watch out.
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Anyone can 'pancing' this kind of *******? vmad.gif vmad.gif

biggrin.gif
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post Feb 24 2014, 04:22 PM

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let me tell you how this piece of sh*t do his work. Yet cannot confirm 100%, just rough idea

1. he/she open new account
2. randomly comment on other people's thread to increase post count
3. he/she will open a sales thread mostly gadget (mobile phone or pc parts) at way below market price
4. people will be caught off guard and make a fast deal to grab the chances
5. payment made and no items been delivered
6. thread closed, TS gone missing,
7. he/she will repeat from step 1

the best part is;

1. payment was not made to her/his account directly
2. he/she have a deal with other people (mostly phones) but not from here only, maybe in mudah, or even facebook
3. he/she will tell that particular seller that payment will be made partially by her/his customers (us) saying that he/she selling products
4. payment made by us, (where she need our receipt to forward it to that seller) and item deliver to her/him
5. GG

well played right? damn these con artist nowadays... whistling.gif
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post Feb 24 2014, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(nGeeMoN @ Feb 24 2014, 05:22 PM)
let me tell you how this piece of sh*t do his work. Yet cannot confirm 100%, just rough idea

1. he/she open new account
2. randomly comment on other people's thread to increase post count
3. he/she will open a sales thread mostly gadget (mobile phone or pc parts) at way below market price
4. people will be caught off guard and make a fast deal to grab the chances
5. payment made and no items been delivered
6. thread closed, TS gone missing,
7. he/she will repeat from step 1

the best part is;

1. payment was not made to her/his account directly
2. he/she have a deal with other people (mostly phones) but not from here only, maybe in mudah, or even facebook
3. he/she will tell that particular seller that payment will be made partially by her/his customers (us) saying that he/she selling products
4. payment made by us, (where she need our receipt to forward it to that seller) and item deliver to her/him
5. GG

well played right? damn these con artist nowadays...  whistling.gif
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wow! heard about this kind of trick before...
I think so, thats y he need the receipt! doh.gif doh.gif

well played!
is there any possible way to 'con back' this kind of guy? LOL
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post Feb 24 2014, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(g9000z @ Feb 24 2014, 04:36 PM)
wow! heard about this kind of trick before...
I think so, thats y he need the receipt!  doh.gif  doh.gif

well played!
is there any possible way to 'con back' this kind of guy? LOL
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meh.. dont think so.. they are to smart to be conned.
but you can still send somebody to her/his house.. police report honestly wont help you one..
because you paid to someone else bank account..
they might think they can slip away clean.. but personal details are easily acquire nowadays..

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QUOTE(nGeeMoN @ Feb 24 2014, 04:48 PM)
meh.. dont think so.. they are to smart to be conned.
but you can still send somebody to her/his house.. police report honestly wont help you one..
because you paid to someone else bank account..
they might think they can slip away clean.. but personal details are easily acquire nowadays..
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spamming time: tongue.gif

unrelated to the case, mind answering a few question? icon_question.gif

is she hot or not? do you personally know her? if yes, can you please give me her address, feel like "visiting" her drool.gif
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QUOTE(_JD_ @ Feb 24 2014, 05:52 PM)
spamming time:  tongue.gif

unrelated to the case, mind answering a few question? icon_question.gif

is she hot or not? do you personally know her? if yes, can you please give me her address, feel like "visiting" her  drool.gif
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LOL, nGeeMoN maybe u can provide this guy her address...
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

what will u do leh if she is hot? be careful u kena con also, but different level lehh... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(g9000z @ Feb 24 2014, 04:58 PM)
LOL, nGeeMoN maybe u can provide this guy her address...
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what will u do leh if she is hot? be careful u kena con also, but different level lehh...  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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you wanna know the legal or illegal way? tongue.gif

if hot then good, if not then no good lorh whistling.gif
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QUOTE(nGeeMoN @ Feb 24 2014, 05:48 PM)
meh.. dont think so.. they are to smart to be conned.
but you can still send somebody to her/his house.. police report honestly wont help you one..
because you paid to someone else bank account..
they might think they can slip away clean.. but personal details are easily acquire nowadays..
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btw, IF I able to contact the guy that I bank in money to, and ask the conman address. Will those scenario works?

ehehe
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QUOTE(g9000z @ Feb 24 2014, 05:00 PM)
btw, IF I able to contact the guy that I bank in money to, and ask the conman address. Will those scenario works?

ehehe
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Are you able to track the account owner?
I would like to find out the scammer too.
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QUOTE(g9000z @ Feb 24 2014, 05:00 PM)
btw, IF I able to contact the guy that I bank in money to, and ask the conman address. Will those scenario works?

ehehe
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that is how i track down this bas*ard.. hehe
but my story is just roughly idea guys.. i'm not saying it is 100% true nor denying it.
i tracked down the account holder and confront him virtually, mine was to Shah Fizzat.
he told me this story.. whether he lied straight to my face or not myself also cannot tell.
but this is what I get from him:

Farah Eyra
No, 15 Jalan Gertak Seratus, 22300, Kuala Besut, Terenganu
011-31217210

happy hunting guys~ rclxms.gif
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post Feb 24 2014, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(nGeeMoN @ Feb 24 2014, 06:15 PM)
that is how i track down this bas*ard.. hehe
but my story is just roughly idea guys.. i'm not saying it is 100% true nor denying it.
i tracked down the account holder and confront him virtually, mine was to Shah Fizzat.
he told me this story.. whether he lied straight to my face or not myself also cannot tell.
but this is what I get from him:

Farah Eyra
No, 15 Jalan Gertak Seratus, 22300, Kuala Besut, Terenganu
011-31217210

happy hunting guys~  rclxms.gif
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The Personal details for which scammer?
pisangzbiasa? Wish all scammer go to hell.
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QUOTE(g9000z @ Feb 24 2014, 05:00 PM)
btw, IF I able to contact the guy that I bank in money to, and ask the conman address. Will those scenario works?

ehehe
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Someone already done that, even go to scammer house & confront with the parent.

At the end the parent settled the case & begged not to make police report.

Guy that have balls track down scammer
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QUOTE(huajun1223 @ Feb 24 2014, 07:15 PM)
Are you able to track the account owner?
I would like to find out the scammer too.
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Are you conned too?? wow...
maybe u can refer to below post? nGeeMoN nicely given to us.. brows.gif brows.gif

QUOTE(nGeeMoN @ Feb 24 2014, 07:15 PM)
that is how i track down this bas*ard.. hehe
but my story is just roughly idea guys.. i'm not saying it is 100% true nor denying it.
i tracked down the account holder and confront him virtually, mine was to Shah Fizzat.
he told me this story.. whether he lied straight to my face or not myself also cannot tell.
but this is what I get from him:

Farah Eyra
No, 15 Jalan Gertak Seratus, 22300, Kuala Besut, Terenganu
011-31217210

happy hunting guys~  rclxms.gif
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btw, out of curiousity.. are you conned too?
you got so much info regarding her.. hehe
thanks anyway!! Will try to track down together with other LYNers hehe.. (if they want..) rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(huajun1223 @ Feb 24 2014, 06:18 PM)
The Personal details for which scammer?
pisangzbiasa? Wish all scammer go to hell.
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pisangzbiasa bro..
later i'll try to track down her/his alias see whether it goes to the same people..

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QUOTE(g9000z @ Feb 24 2014, 06:23 PM)
Are you conned too?? wow...
maybe u can refer to below post? nGeeMoN nicely given to us.. brows.gif  brows.gif
btw, out of curiousity.. are you conned too?
you got so much info regarding her.. hehe
thanks anyway!! Will try to track down together with other LYNers hehe.. (if they want..)  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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yeah bro.. sadly i was 1 of the victim.. but i mine was another story.. rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(g9000z @ Feb 24 2014, 06:23 PM)
Are you conned too?? wow...
maybe u can refer to below post? nGeeMoN nicely given to us.. brows.gif  brows.gif
btw, out of curiousity.. are you conned too?
you got so much info regarding her.. hehe
thanks anyway!! Will try to track down together with other LYNers hehe.. (if they want..)  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Hi Bro,

As per nGeeMoN reply,

He Intruders troop = pisangzbiasa, i kena conned RM 200 . I hope someone can give her some lesson.

please check my thread - > https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry66577891
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I am just stating the fact all IPs got linkage back to https://forum.lowyat.net/user/arepeace92
i.e.
Intruder Troops
U.R.A.N.I.U.M
Pisangzbiasa

p/s: not going to comment on the similarity on posting which ends without "full stop" punctuation mark.
Whether involved or not, am not sure.

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lover44
post Feb 24 2014, 08:19 PM

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Hi guys, Im one of the victims too. Here is the proof I bank in to her.
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The account I bank in to is Mohd Shah Fizzat

Hope this helps. I dont expect to get back money at the moment but I try to provide every infos which might relate this scammer get caught. smile.gif

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g9000z
post Feb 24 2014, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(lover44 @ Feb 24 2014, 09:19 PM)
Hi guys, Im one of the victims too. Here is the proof I bank in to her.
user posted image

The account I bank in to is Mohd Shah Fizzat

Hope this helps. I dont expect to get back money at the moment but I try to provide every infos which might relate this scammer get caught.  smile.gif
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Glad u got refunded… rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

mine is still pending.. the Framed guy is short of money after refunding everyone that are conned..

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post Feb 24 2014, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(g9000z @ Feb 24 2014, 11:27 PM)
Glad u got refunded…  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

mine is still pending.. the Framed guy is short of money after refunding everyone that are conned..
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Why the framed guy refund using his money? Refund first ask question later rclxub.gif ?

If this true the scammer name Fizzat, i also almost make deal with him few years before.

his possible others id Melisfera, Merry Bird and dunno how many other. So we might dealing with a long time con here.

Also got a hit from google for his name Mohd Shah Fizzat
g9000z
post Feb 24 2014, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(acexii @ Feb 25 2014, 12:39 AM)
Why the framed guy refund using his money? Refund first ask question later rclxub.gif ?

If this true the scammer name Fizzat, i also almost make deal with him few years before.

his possible others id Melisfera, Merry Bird and dunno how many other. So we might dealing with a long time con here.

Also got a hit from google for his name Mohd Shah Fizzat
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the framed guy know the conman well…and will claim back the money from the conman's parents
The conman using his WIFI to go online, so when the IP traced back, leading to the framed guy's ID.

for the complete story, u can go here ->> https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry66577891

its another thread about same conman but using different IDs.



 

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