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 The Official LYN FIFA 07 League 2 (6th Season), Sorry Guys, No More Seedings For WCG.MY

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sctang25
post May 9 2007, 12:21 PM

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what do you mean by good players? does it mean that those players that had participated in LYN league are the "MAN UTD" of the fifa community while those unknown players are the "WATFORD" ? how could u all say that? having a clan doesnt mean that members of the clan are far more superior to others.. yah i dont deny the skills and superiority of some winds and myfes players but i think there must be reasons for the organizers to kill off the seeding rules...
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post May 9 2007, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(sctang25 @ May 9 2007, 12:21 PM)
what do you mean by good players? does it mean that those players that had participated in LYN league are the "MAN UTD" of the fifa community while those unknown players are the "WATFORD" ? how could u all say that? having a clan doesnt mean that members of the clan are far more superior to others.. yah i dont deny the skills and superiority of some winds and myfes players but i think there must be reasons for the organizers to kill off the seeding rules...
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hi,bro..i think acc7 's sentence doesnt mean to show off or trying to say LYN League players are the good players or wat so ever..

and definitely no one here mentioned having a clan will make all the members superior than other players..and no one also ever show off having a FIFA clan here. if u know any MyFeS members does that,please tell me..

wat i think is,acc7 jst hope that with the seeding in WCG, the competition level in wcg can be maintained caused as far as we concern,the most active FIFA players in malaysia ,most of them are in this thread and with this league...but tat doesnt mean other players out there are not good..and i personally feel that seeding doesnt help much..if an unknown player out there who is real good in FIFA..he shouldnt have prob in beating those seeded players..i personally experience being seeded in last year wcg..but end up i lost in group stage as well...

i think this is jst an misunderstanding.. sweat.gif and we , the FIFA community here respect the decision to call off the seeding for wcg..

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post May 9 2007, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(MightyReds @ May 8 2007, 09:38 PM)


Added on May 8, 2007, 9:44 pm
lol if like that benaldo u join warcraft also lar...i think ur melee shud be quite good O.o
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EVEN if I join warcraft, the imba enet_PaulYan and Mas-1 members will still be owning leh ^^. Then I'll still be the sheep in the group of wolves T_T.

QUOTE(accelerator7 @ May 8 2007, 10:48 PM)
Then you can play Sheep Tag lor  tongue.gif
Groups of death only give much more excitement to the early stages of the tournament...imagine if all good players are eliminated in the early stages and the finals might be predictable and have no more excitement...people would like to see Man Utd VS Liverpool or Man Utd VS Watford more?  blink.gif
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Yea I agree, I prefer a predictable early rounds and EXCITEMENT in the late rounds then a FUN group stages but a BORING and PREDICTABLE final. It's not fun to see someone get thrashed by 6-7 goals in the finals....

QUOTE(sctang25 @ May 9 2007, 12:21 PM)
what do you mean by good players? does it mean that those players that had participated in LYN league are the "MAN UTD" of the fifa community while those unknown players are the "WATFORD" ? how could u all say that? having a clan doesnt mean that members of the clan are far more superior to others.. yah i dont deny the skills and superiority of some winds and myfes players but i think there must be reasons for the organizers to kill off the seeding rules...
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I think what he meant by 'good' players are players who actually made a name for themself in the gaming scene like chilaxis, si_jali, highwind, vinc3nt, snake etc(sorry for leaving out some but there's SO MANY GOOD PLAYERS)..... Its like determining GOOD football players. Players like C.Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, J.Terry, Ballack(sure Acc7 agree 100% on this), T.Henry etc have all made names for themselves in the football scene. I admit, there may be BETTER UNKNOWN TALENTS out there like ME notworthy.gif rclxm9.gif icon_idea.gif but I haven't make a name for myself yet, so I can't exactly be recognised as 'GOOD' yet.

Aiya, if u think some ppl try to 'act COOL and PRO' just be having a clan, you make your own clan la, with cool names opposing 'winds' and 'myfes' like 'TORNADOES' or 'YOURFES'.

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post May 9 2007, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(sctang25 @ May 9 2007, 01:21 PM)
what do you mean by good players? does it mean that those players that had participated in LYN league are the "MAN UTD" of the fifa community while those unknown players are the "WATFORD" ? how could u all say that? having a clan doesnt mean that members of the clan are far more superior to others.. yah i dont deny the skills and superiority of some winds and myfes players but i think there must be reasons for the organizers to kill off the seeding rules...
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Yepz

You are true that members of a clan didn't mean that they are far more superior than other players in Malaysia. But look here, Acc7 did not mention anything about non-clan player are known as 'Watford', did he? If you read carefully, he means that those who didn't play this league is the one being known as 'Watford'.

This league is meant for all the people around the world that have good internet connection with Malaysia. Whether you are a NOOB or SUPER NOOB you still have the chance to be in this league. I do disagree that when the host decided to give priority to clan member to join this league at first, but towards the deadline, there are still empty slots for others to join. So this league is not for clan members, it's for the Malaysian FIFA Gamer.

This does not give you the advantage to fire Accelerator7 from nowhere. And you should know that he did this for FREE.
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QUOTE(sctang25 @ May 9 2007, 12:21 PM)
what do you mean by good players? does it mean that those players that had participated in LYN league are the "MAN UTD" of the fifa community while those unknown players are the "WATFORD" ? how could u all say that? having a clan doesnt mean that members of the clan are far more superior to others.. yah i dont deny the skills and superiority of some winds and myfes players but i think there must be reasons for the organizers to kill off the seeding rules...
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Ok i didn't know my post can be so sensitive to someone. First of all, i would like to apologize if my earlier post had indeed offended anyone, i'm really sorry and i didn't mean anything to what you have said regarding to my remark. Secondly, thank you to those who had helped me to explain what i really meant in my earlier post.

Sometimes if you look at real football tournaments, you know they also have seedings for the better clubs. There's a purpose to why seedings sometimes exist in a competition. The main purpose is TRY not to eliminate most of the good teams in the early group stages. Common sense no one will want to see a group stage consisting of Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Man Utd and AC Milan in the CL. Plus if the 2nd round will also consist of other great clubs like Liverpool, Real Madrid, Inter Milan and Werder Bremen, you will see that most of the favourites are already out from the league in the early stages. I'm not meaning that other clubs have no fans at all, it's just that the majority of the world's viewers expect a more exciting final match. Even why M'sian TV only shows more EPL matches instead of French League or Bundesliga matches? It's because of the huge demands of the football viewers in M'sia that EPL matches are more interesting, but still there are some who do not think so.

My point here is not to discriminate and look down on the clan-less and unknown players. As i've played in FIFA tourneys since 2003, i myself had seen alot of new players that emerged as winners, such as MyFes' Solidsnake. Many players started to be good in the FIFA scene as time flies such as the newly formed MyFes clan, most of the members are new to FIFA but they can play well and are talented. So why do you think i will think that Winds is still the best and can 100% dominate the FIFA game in M'sia? I personally think seedings have advantages and also disadvantages but i just felt it's better to have seedings in WCG because of the reasons i've mentioned earlier. I just hope that all of the current good players will not be in the same group in the early stage. I'm not talking about Winds or MyFes, anyone who can prove they are good in FIFA are not excluded from the seedings. That means in this LYN League alone, it's not a 100% that a Winds or MyFes member can win and be top of the league table. At the end of season, maybe there will be a clan-less and unknown player who will be on top of the table. No one knows as football is unpredictable, especially with the FIFA 07.

Like what Loon said, he disagreed with the priority given to only clan players before i started this season. Everyone doesn't know what was my reason and they think i was just being selfish and only gave clan members to have the seedings. My main reason was to eliminate irresponsible players who cannot even follow a simple rule and always abandon games or just disappear when the league is running halfway. I've experienced this because i already had 5 seasons previously. Most of the unknown players who join this league are just for fun and some are not even serious. So why we want to waste the spots for people who play the games whenever they like and abandon games whenever they like? Why we want to throw a valuable spot away from a serious WCG gamer to another irresponsible player who doesn't even know what's WCG? At first i gave priority to clan members because i know most of the clan members will surely be serious and join WCG. That alone will not waste alot of the places in the league. I still reserved some places for unknown players who i closely observed and questioned first before i allow them to join. Yeah i'm doing this for free also and i'm also trying to be a better organizer. When i first started this league, there's no such thing as seedings. I was only notified by the WCG organizer that they allowed seedings (which showed they themselves thought seedings were a good idea to improve the standard of WCG.MY) after this league had run for like 3-4 seasons. My main purpose of this league isn't because to fight for places in WCG but just to let M'sian serious FIFA gamers to have a place to meet different people and to train with each another as a preparation for WCG.

Well now the seedings have been abolished, no more questions about unfairness will be raised, so i just hope everyone will continue to have fun playing in this league. As WCG.MY is just a few months away, serious gamers who intend to join WCG this year are always welcome to participate in this league to improve yourself. If you're just a normal FIFA gamer who just want to have fun playing and not intend to join WCG, just be considerate and spare the places for other serious gamers (include unknown and clan-less gamers) who would like to participate in WCG. But normal FIFA gamers are always welcomed to share opinions and questions in this thread, what's more you can always make friends here and add any of us if you want to play some friendlies with us. Again, i apologize to anyone who i've offended, and please bare with my long post since i have to make my point clear. Thank you smile.gif
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post May 9 2007, 04:26 PM

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aiyoyo..very long la..like essay writting in school time..lazy to read la..! >_<!
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damn u spidey me wanna read seriously also cannot hahahah
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post May 9 2007, 09:00 PM

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correction acc7, m'sia tv shows CL and m'sia liga instead of EPL...wan watch EPL u have to pay tongue.gif

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post May 9 2007, 10:32 PM

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let's just keep this thread easy on our words and serious in our gaming
no hard feelings whatsoever
any challenges is best taken place in a match up vmad.gif
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post May 9 2007, 11:01 PM

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long time didnt post here.. it seems u guys have been very naughty izzit?lol biggrin.gif

anyway abt the seeding issue.. i feel tht in 1 way i AGREE that they cut off the seeding in this year.. for some reason i felt the competition is looking more like a clan rivalry between MyFes and W|nds tht may make some ppl being fed up looking at it and just demoralize them from entering WCG.. even myself been in tht situation when i first entered WCG.. in the group stage i met Nigel and just freak me out until i got a fever( i guess it was the stress).. i personally find it a big issue IF this thing is true coz it will not help the FIFA communiy at all if ppl started to think sumthg like tht or even worst..

so to avoid such thg.. the organizer have done a smart thing to make WCG a free- no nonsense- no discrimination towards any players.. have to understand WCG have to maintain their standards as a neutral party tht takes everyone equally.. this shows how commited the organizer towards providing healthy competition among gamers thumbup.gif

and i got no prob if the good players are all in the same group.. if ur really good then u shld qualified.. thts all.. as jotaro says.. let the match do the talking~ ^^

but pls dun take this thing too seriously.. after all we are all here for 1 reason.. to enjoy and have fun~ and remember.. we are here for the chicks as well.. am i rite? hahahah biggrin.gif

p:s= donno lor abt the 'gays' tht been mention in this forum.. werethere they are here for the 'chicks' or 'puppy'.. lol biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Rin @ si_jali @ May 9 2007, 11:01 PM)
long time didnt post here.. it seems u guys have been very naughty izzit?lol biggrin.gif

anyway abt the seeding issue.. i feel tht in 1 way i AGREE that they cut off the seeding in this year.. for some reason i felt the competition is looking more like a clan rivalry between MyFes and W|nds tht may make some ppl being fed up looking at it and just demoralize them from entering WCG.. even myself been in tht situation when i first entered WCG.. in the group stage i met Nigel and just freak me out until i got a fever( i guess it was the stress).. i personally find it a big issue IF this thing is true coz it will not help the FIFA communiy at all if ppl started to think sumthg like tht or even worst..

so to avoid such thg.. the organizer have done a smart thing to make WCG a free- no nonsense- no discrimination towards any players.. have to understand WCG have to maintain their standards as a neutral party tht takes everyone equally.. this shows how commited the organizer towards providing healthy competition among gamers  thumbup.gif

and i got no prob if the good players are all in the same group.. if ur really good then u shld qualified.. thts all.. as jotaro says.. let the match do the talking~ ^^

but pls dun take this thing too seriously.. after all we are all here for 1 reason.. to enjoy and have fun~ and remember.. we are here for the chicks as well.. am i rite? hahahah biggrin.gif

p:s= donno lor abt the 'gays' tht been mention in this forum.. werethere they are here for the 'chicks' or 'puppy'.. lol  biggrin.gif
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post May 10 2007, 09:19 AM

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I apologize if my comment on the seeding offended anyone. That was just purely my opinion. I am here to make friends,not to fire anyone.
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post May 10 2007, 01:19 PM

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Haihz don't know laa what's up with my.WCG this year, first no warcraft and starcraft..... Next, no more seeding for fifa 07 zzz.


Btw is the seeding taken off ONLY for Fifa 07? Or is it taken off from all the other games like CS and NFS too?

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QUOTE(bpwx @ May 10 2007, 01:19 PM)
Haihz don't know laa what's up with my.WCG this year, first no warcraft and starcraft..... Next, no more seeding for fifa 07 zzz.
Btw is the seeding taken off ONLY for Fifa 07? Or is it taken off from all the other games like CS and NFS too?
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not sure but I dun know why they took out warcraft and starcraft...disappointed with the result of those games in grand finals and took the game out so can save money? rclxub.gif
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lol..on NFS where got early seeding
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For your information, the seedings for FIFA was an idea originally brought up by gamers. The organizer thought the idea was not bad and the seedings can be based on this LYN League standings. However, several complaints have been received and the organizer decided to abolish it now. So let's just forget about this seeding topic and move on. Just train hard and try your best in WCG smile.gif
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anticipating the accelerator7 vs highwind match hahaha..

eh on that day before u play must let me know leh.. must go broadcast on ESPN first go discuss team update, team strat bla bla hahaha.

acc7 u better win hor tongue.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(Xtr3me3 @ May 11 2007, 10:06 AM)
anticipating the accelerator7 vs highwind match hahaha..

eh on that day before u play must let me know leh.. must go broadcast on ESPN first go discuss team update, team strat bla bla hahaha.

acc7 u better win hor tongue.gif rclxm9.gif
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yeah , he must win in this big match tongue.gif
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post May 12 2007, 02:58 AM

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QUOTE(vinc3nt @ May 11 2007, 11:36 PM)
yeah , he must win in this big match tongue.gif
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LOL bring it on then !!!

Anyway, Good Luck to you guys in the tourney tomolo. I really can't join you guys tomolo, might be it's a good news and bad news to different ppl. I still got hell a lot of chapters uncovered for my finals. Do update me the winners here in this forum.

GOODLUCK & HAVEFUN !!!


Added on May 12, 2007, 2:59 am
QUOTE(vinc3nt @ May 11 2007, 11:36 PM)
yeah , he must win in this big match tongue.gif
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LOL bring it on then !!!

Anyway, Good Luck to you guys in the tourney tomolo. I really can't join you guys tomolo, might be it's a good news and bad news to different ppl. I still got hell a lot of chapters uncovered for my finals. Do update me the winners here in this forum.

GOODLUCK & HAVEFUN !!!

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Hahaha yeah the ESPN pre-match talk again...so Xtreme, vin and Arroyos will be discussing about our match la? Talk about each of our own tactics and gameplays, history matches played, my current loss of form, etc... laugh.gif

Ahhhh it's like Bayern Munich VS Liverpool la...i'm the underdog and really lose form nowadays...but will try my best to play in da match...gonna make it an entertaining match! smile.gif


Added on May 12, 2007, 3:03 amOh yeah...good luck to those who join the tourney tomolo as well! thumbup.gif

Sorry vin...din online to train wit u coz i was too tired...slept over time liao haha...2 days liao din have enuff sleep sad.gif

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