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post Feb 11 2014, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(lowkl @ Feb 10 2014, 07:02 PM)
Hi SportyHandling,

Sorry to admit, but I am now getting back the jerking/shuddering. It went away around 5000km (not sure really when) but now at 15000km I am getting jerking/shuddering BUT not all the time.... this is the really weird part.

Every morning, the car performs perfectly, no jerking/shuddering, virtually no grinding... smooth as a Jap car (I am not imagining the comparison, because I also drive my wife's Mazda6). BUT when I go home in the evenings, the problems get progressively worse. Sometimes by late evening, even my wife sitting as a passenger can feel it AND even hear the grinding! WTF la.... so very embarrassing! Then the next morning... ALL OK!

What the....? rclxub.gif

I am now switching to S-mode in the evenings to reduce the jerking... this helps. BUT when I do switch back... it's WORSE.

I am monitoring the situation. Most likely when I hit the 20K service in approximately 3 months, I am going to PJ SDAC and insist on the TCM update.

As for the thud sounds, mine sounds different from your description: it is more like the sound of a hollow plastic container that is vibrating/knocking against something. It only happens at very low speed and when the ground is uneven and can really be heard if the car is absolutely quiet. I suspect it could be the excess coolant container, because it is only clipped on on two sides, so can easily vibrate... furthermore, there is a pipe (I think for the air con?) directly below it. Maybe I will follow some suggestions to get some aircon insulation and wedge it in the gap. This is not major issue with me though....
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Bro lowkl,

Better sent to sc and complain on the jerking and shuddering and request to check for undercarriage leakage. Mostly due to clutch slip from the oil seal leakage.

Need to replace the oil seal and clutch.

Mine same case like yours. Evening after jam confirm have it.

A fews owners also waiting to replace the oil seal and clutch.

Mine confirmed leakage problem at SDAC PJ on 10 Jan 2014. Can only send in the car to replace on 24 Mac 2014 even though the parts had arrived.


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post Feb 28 2014, 03:24 PM

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post Mar 14 2014, 11:21 AM

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Any one experience noticeable rattling / clunk sound driving over rough surface road at low speed
ticking/clicking sound from the driver seat when going over uneven road?
Incorrect fuel gauge problem - After refuel (Full Tank), the needle drop to 2nd bar after just running less than 50km. After restart, the need when up and drop again.


If yes, had you send in to SC and get it fixed?

Going to send in my car for the oil seal and clutch assy replacement. Think of complaint the above problem and let them check and fix the problem while replacing the oil seal and clutch assy.
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post Mar 18 2014, 09:37 AM

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For those planning to get a new focus or fiesta, please read below

http://paultan.org/2014/03/17/dual-clutch-...ons-dry-clutch/

If your everyday driving path are just daily stop and go jam, stay away and get a conventional torque convertor type auto gb

The dry dct confirm can't withstand the heat and eventually having leakage problem. Will end up replacing the oil seal and clutch assy.... Mine less then 10k already leakage...




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post Mar 18 2014, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(Regian @ Mar 17 2014, 03:14 PM)
I performed the method once 2 week ago, then went on 5 days vacation. After come back to drive my car, surprisingly the car grinding sound turns out minimal or not noticing at all. Also the gear now feels more intelligent in switching gear, minimal jerking. I'm not sure if the method helps in this case.. Or because I stationed my car long enough hence the gear become smoother? No idea..
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Better check for any undercarriage leaking especially beneath the gb area. You may be having oil seal leakage problem. After 5 days vacation with less grinding and jerk, may be due to the oil leakage dry up in gb... You can observe for another few days, most properly it will come back and haunt you after the oil seal begin leaking after heat from traffic jam.

Mine now in SDAC PJ replacing the oil seal and clutch assy after two month waiting...
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post Mar 18 2014, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(Regian @ Mar 18 2014, 11:43 AM)
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Will observe few more days see any differences..

if use a mirror to check the undercarriage, am I able to see the leak?

For your case, you still continue to drive it for 2 more months after the leak while waiting for your parts to be arrived?
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Not sure can see or not becoz it covered but there is a small hole right beneath the gb.

Yes... Some member even drive for more then 6 months after the leak is detected. Some more still keep going genting time to time...

All you get is grinding, slip and juddering only.... But the slip and juddering is unpredictable... So quite dangerous as well... when you try to cut lanes and over take...
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post Mar 19 2014, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Mar 18 2014, 01:46 PM)
What are the symptoms of a leakage that had happened to your vehicle?

Currently the mileage on my vehicle is 6500km+ with occassional stop-go-stop-go traffic and there are minimal to no jerks and grinding sound now. As a matter of fact, I actually prefer the sensitive throttle action of the dual clutch Powershift transmission which had contributed to the light and responsive acceleration of the Focus in comparison to say the conventional CVT gearbox of the Proton Preve where there is not only a lag in acceleration but also it actually jerks more than the dual clutch of the Focus(even though it's a CVT) and the vehicle felt heavy due to the lethargic acceleration. In short, I actually thought the dual clutch of the Focus performs much better than the CVT of the Proton Preve. But then again the CVT of the Preve may be just crap, and other conventional auto gearboxes especially the Super CVT in the Toyota Altis may be a different story altogether.
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Symptoms are the gb seems to be responding slowly (Sluggish) after pushing hard or going through stop / go traffic jam for at least 30 minutes above.... you will notice the gear change would not smooth especially the the first 3 gears regardless in what mood (D/S/Manual). The car will judder or idle for 1-2 second time to time even though you step more on the throttle....

Early in the morning, indeed the car is light and responsive. I experience it mostly on the way back after work. Jam for at least 45minutes.

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post Mar 26 2014, 09:47 AM

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The grinding sound are minor. It seems like more towards the characteristic of dry dct. You will only face the infamous dct problem when driving slow. Once you speed more than 50kmh above, you woudn't face any problem at all.

What worries me is the gearbox leakage which lead to heavy judder and clutch slip... Some owner already replace new oil seal, clutch assy and tcm update but the problem happen again after less than a year....

A lot of owner report gb leakage nowadays on fb....

Mine car still in SDAC PJ after a week to replace new oil seal and clutch assy. Apparently the car having problem after replace new oil seal and clutch assy, need their technical team to further check and inspect... Sigh...

Five word to describe this car. Great car lousy gear box... LOL...

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post Aug 6 2014, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(Buymore2u @ Aug 5 2014, 03:19 PM)
Planning to buy this Car, Best discount is 7k for plus , Best Deal ?
Btw how about after service for Ford?
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After the free service, get ready to prepare 300+, 600+ , 300+ and 1200++ for every subsequent services... rclxms.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...post&id=3872426

Service level i would say abang adik with proton...lol. Unless really problem until the car can't move, they will get it fixed...

Else everything u complaint.... is normal... is like that one... Super taichi master... lol....

If you insist to ask them to check and fix... They will say need to leave the car to check for 4-5 days... so that you keep your mouth shut and leave... mad.gif

Word of advice - Buy Ford if have spare car... lol...

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post Feb 11 2015, 12:25 PM

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Expensive "Proton"....
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post Apr 10 2015, 09:41 AM

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Coating also have it headaches.... watermark.... especially u stay at condo and your car is park under the sun during working time.... During raining season... Watermark will built up.... then have to do maintenance every 6 months.... The maintenance is not cheap also....

Also when there are scratches found u can't diy to polish it off because the coating will be remove if you do so...

Need to ask the detailer to polish and reapply the coating by section... not cheap also...

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post Apr 16 2015, 09:29 AM

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Under warranty... why change outside.... The battery also cost like hell.... when i got mine replace for free... the bill state 900++ lol....
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post May 13 2015, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ May 12 2015, 06:08 PM)
Just called up to arrange for clutch replacement and the PJ service centre gave me a shocker. Now it's only May and they informed the earliest available slot is on 4th August (3rd August is also fully booked). What the heck. So it is now 2.5 months backlog? I thought it's around 1 month.

Anyway the jerking is said to be nothing to worry about. Just unpleasant to drive.
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2.5 Months backlog consider "LONG"??? LOL.....

You think you the are the only one waiting to replacing the clutch??? i would said out of 80% owner are waiting to replace their clutch

My first replacement as SDAC PJ waited for 3 months....

Second replacement which i am doing now at Ford Sungai Pencala.... I have to wait for around 5 month before they can schedule a slot for me....

2.5 months can consider lucky already.....

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post May 14 2015, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ May 13 2015, 09:26 AM)
May I ask when was your first clutch replacement? At what mileage and year?

And you are now arranging a 2nd clutch replacement? Even the new clutch shows jerking and grinding? This is indeed worrying. I suppose the new clutch should address this problem once and for all.

How long is the period between the 1st clutch replacement to the 2nd arranged clutch replacement at Sungai Penchala?
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12k++ - March 2014

After few month, it will be back but not as serious as the first time.... Jerking and grinding after the gearbox is hot (traffic jam - evening time especially).

First time, really leakage.... but second time hardly see any oil leak but the problem still there once the gearbox is hot....

I doubt so the problem can be solved once and for all due to design fault.... Imagine just less then 2 liter of dct fluid to cool down the whole gearbox.... Older version focus with wet clutch where got such issue.....

Heard that there is one owner replaced 4th time... but the problem still persist....

13-14 months i think....




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post May 14 2015, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(Dwango @ May 13 2015, 04:56 PM)
Wow brother, sure or not.  Even after it was replaced, you are now going for 2nd replacement already? It appears that this clutch thing cannot last too long?
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Bro, you never join the FB MK3 club???? If you had joined, i am sure you can see a lot of owner who done their first clutch replacement posting going for second or more clutch replacement mainly due to the earlier replacement batch fail to withstand the gearbox heat... There are revision of clutch assy and oil seal.... so hopefully the latest version can solve it once for all....


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post Jun 1 2015, 09:44 AM

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If your daily driving routine involved a lot of stop/ go and traffic jam, wouldn't recommend you to take up the focus actually.... better go for conventional auto g/b....

New focus dry dct are not really heat proof.... once heat up it will misbehave....
then start the judder/noise and ultimately oil seal leak... LOL....

Just my 2cents.... Other owner don't shoot me ya....

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post Jun 24 2015, 09:37 AM

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Told by who??? SDAC PJ? Warranty transparency is not there. No one really knows what are cover and what not.

Last time when i bought the car from SDAC when Edward (ex-branch/sales manager) still around, he stated everything cover except the tyres within the 60K.

Tones of people claims their wipers and brake pads before 60k warranty expired. Even your wiper and brake pads are still in good condition during 60k warranty services and you had yet to make any claim on the wiper and brake pads, you can request for the parts and keep it with yourself until you feel like changing it later.

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post Jun 24 2015, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(wkalvin @ Jun 24 2015, 11:14 AM)
may I know which service center allow to claim wiper and brake pads?  I checked with melaka seong hoe, they said worn out parts can't claim. might to share?  tq
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I heard from SDAC PJ and Ford Damansara...
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post Jul 31 2015, 09:32 AM

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CON-drastic change performance - yes.... like driving 1.8... pick up much more slower....
PRO-smoother drive....

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post Jul 31 2015, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jul 31 2015, 09:37 AM)
May I ask when did you change the clutch, and is it your 1st and only change? (I forgot about someone here who has had his clutch changed 2 to 3 times).

Good to hear about smoother drive with the new clutch. However, the power is now like a 1.8-litre car? Doesn't sound too good. Did the guys at the service centre mention anything about the loss of acceleration power, or can they do anything about it?
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Second time already....

I don't think SC can do anything about it.... That's the approach ford try to eliminate the jerk....

But i doubt that approach....

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