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post Jan 25 2014, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(Freeloader @ Jan 24 2014, 09:50 PM)
200 people gone is quite a lot wor.
Lets see how the new 200 people can bring this company up.
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sure low performance...

ada payung besar mcm sp setia..tidak mahu..
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post Jan 25 2014, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Jan 22 2014, 11:31 AM)
What's the point in doing that to a company that you serve for so many years? Unless staff was ill-treated.

200+ people.... doh.gif
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I heard they don't pay their sales staff by commission. Just fixed salary
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post Jan 25 2014, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(Kravo @ Jan 22 2014, 11:53 AM)
in short, "no one" is irreplacable in a company.
the worst case is hindering in daily business, but that is not deadly issue, unless the company no longer has the capabilities ($) to hire "proper" manpower.
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Lets say a company is a machine n liew is a crucial one off rare component, then sp setia will no longer thrive as it did. Especially considering liew is forming a direct competitor but with all the success recipes.
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post Jan 25 2014, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:28 AM)
ytd night my bro family came back home to have dinner with us. sis-in-law told us her workplace story.

her kompeni is 1 of the big property developer in msia. her big bos resign already and the kompeni staff 200+ over ppl also resign want follow him to new company. most of these 200+ ppl are the brains and backbone of the company with senior & critical positions.

here's the thing. my sis-in-law also plan to resign. the HR managers (manager & asst manager) last day end of the month. she plan to tender on 1st feb. reason being, they couldnt find any replacement for both the HR managers.. so they ask the HR executives to be step-in manager until they hire someone. This HR executive is quite noob.. so my sis-in-law very much confident that her last day will be very easy, such as she can cut short the notice period, she can claim a lot of things (cos got rule say tender liao cannot claim), etc hr procedures.

the company is basically in a mess cos the old-timers are leaving.. only the new generation remains. i wonder how the company operation will be like after everyone finish serve notice already (in fact even now can see things got stuck and roadblocks already).

then i say la "not good la like this.. kesian the HR junior... i doubt u can bypass the system la cos HR procedures in place dy" then she say "currently got 200+ ppl tender already... once the HR manager leave.. u can see more ppl tender.. because everyone is talking abt using this taktik cos the HR manager very mafan wan.. so they will wait til the manager leave and tender"

itu saja my story
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Her strategy is good but she could do better. Now is the chance for her to seek double promotion but rubbing shoulders with some of those who stay. Doesn't matter if salary didn't increase by much also. Once she have the title she can wait 6 months then only jump ship. Now she jump, new employers will know she is from the old company with scandal and won't offer her good package cause they know her situation. And whole industry also know the situation. Remember hr people are well connected
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post Jan 25 2014, 10:56 PM

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post Jan 25 2014, 11:05 PM

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post Jan 25 2014, 11:10 PM

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Its SP Setia, they had been siphoning people out for months bro.

You are too slow.
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post Jan 27 2014, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(mumeichan @ Jan 25 2014, 10:48 PM)
I heard they don't pay their sales staff by commission. Just fixed salary
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Oh, this one I not sure. Don't really know the inside out of the company. Anyway, nothing to do with us though. cool2.gif
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post Jan 27 2014, 09:31 AM

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200+ Are you sure they even have that many staff in the first place. The new company can absorb so many or not. Unless the big boss personally asked you to join. If you saja saja follow people and ends up NOT receiving the new job offer, who is going to suffer.
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post Jan 27 2014, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(MonkeyDLuffy @ Jan 27 2014, 09:31 AM)
200+ Are you sure they even have that many staff in the first place. The new company can absorb so many or not. Unless the big boss personally asked you to join. If you saja saja follow people and ends up NOT receiving the new job offer, who is going to suffer.
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U manyak naive.
U try to check how many sister company park under SP Setia bhd umbrella.

200+ (if all from mid management to top management level), instant arrow onto the knee to the former company

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post Jan 27 2014, 09:54 AM

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old news d, the company got bought over by you know who.
you know la she save all her money from young age, can straight buy a huge listed company
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post Jan 27 2014, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jan 27 2014, 09:47 AM)
U manyak naive.
U try to check how many sister company park under SP Setia bhd umbrella.

200+ (if all from mid management to top management level), instant arrow onto the knee to the former company
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This is what I am talking about. 200+ and all from management level? Are you sure. IF this company have 200+ mgmt level employee, then something is wrong. Mgmt level team suppose to be lean and effective where one person can lead and guide like 50+ people. I wonder who is naive here.
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post Jan 27 2014, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(finecut @ Jan 27 2014, 09:54 AM)
old news d, the company got bought over by you know who.
you know la she save all her money from young age, can straight buy a huge listed company
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Siapa tu?
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post Jan 27 2014, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(MonkeyDLuffy @ Jan 27 2014, 09:55 AM)
This is what I am talking about. 200+ and all from management level? Are you sure. IF this company have 200+ mgmt level employee, then something is wrong. Mgmt level team suppose to be lean and effective where one person can lead and guide like 50+ people. I wonder who is naive here.
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doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
Who make effective judgement and evaluation?

You expect executive with no or less knowledge of company rules and regulations to run the company smoothly.

Can you shoulder the responsibility of buying few millions goods and send it to correct person and correct location??

How about getting supplier or contractor payment term? You expect Tan Sri Liew to meet all the supplier and request for good payment?


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post Jan 27 2014, 10:59 AM

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since when construction magnate like sp setia can have lean management ????? even banks cannot have lean management, moreover construction ???



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post Jan 27 2014, 11:09 AM

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When your company is owned by PNB and your son started EcoWorld, who do you help ?
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post Jan 27 2014, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Alternation @ Jan 25 2014, 10:54 PM)
Lets say a company is a machine n liew is a crucial one off rare component, then sp setia will no longer thrive as it did. Especially considering liew is forming a direct competitor but with all the success recipes.
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so liew is the legend, no one can be better than him?
he will be forever good and young, no youngster can best him?

if he is that good, then all other property companies can close door liao mah.
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post Jan 27 2014, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Kravo @ Jan 27 2014, 11:38 AM)
so liew is the legend, no one can be better than him?
he will be forever good and young, no youngster can best him?

if he is that good, then all other property companies can close door liao mah.
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Come back to the same question

Bill Gates is also a legend, how come still no one can better than him even Bill Gates not active in his own Micro$oft company??
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post Jan 27 2014, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jan 27 2014, 11:42 AM)
Come back to the same question

Bill Gates is also a legend, how come still no one can better than him even Bill Gates not active in his own Micro$oft company??
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because the best one moved to google already?
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post Jan 27 2014, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Kravo @ Jan 27 2014, 11:38 AM)
so liew is the legend, no one can be better than him?
he will be forever good and young, no youngster can best him?

if he is that good, then all other property companies can close door liao mah.
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Yeah there is bound to be some other company that can be better than Liew's team, but i don't think Setia will be their main threats, not for now atleast.

Unless they wanna dry up setia cash reserve and hire a whole group from some other companies over, else it will be a painful restructuring to get the company on its feet again after such as major blow.

This is a high profile case, but in the background many companies that have been absorbed have proved unable to sustained the growth they once enjoy without the original management team

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