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post Jan 27 2014, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(mumeichan @ Jan 25 2014, 10:54 PM)
Her strategy is good but she could do better.  Now is the chance for her to seek double promotion but rubbing shoulders with some of those who stay. Doesn't matter if salary didn't increase by much also. Once she have the title she can wait 6 months then only jump ship. Now she jump, new employers will know she is from the old company with scandal and won't offer her good package cause they know her situation. And whole industry also know the situation. Remember hr people are well connected
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hmmm true.. i will tell her... simedarby gave her quite a good increment i heard..
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post Jan 27 2014, 12:24 PM

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you missing the point here.

part of the sub-topic is not whether sp will become better or not, it's about "nobody in a company is irreplacable".
i dunno why need to argue over this, it's a matter of fact.

company is like a big group of politic, lu tak suka, lu keluar, even if lu is the smartest or best, lu can always be replace. the company 1st requirement is obedient/loyal, the rest are optional/preferably.
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post Jan 27 2014, 12:28 PM

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if just replace for the sake of replacement wont the company go down pretty fast. Its true if you don't want a job sure someone will take it up.

But then who wants to lower down the performance with each new hire.
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post Jan 27 2014, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(UpCar @ Jan 27 2014, 10:59 AM)
since when construction magnate like sp setia can have lean management ????? even banks cannot have lean management, moreover construction ???
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Alright... When you join a bank OR construction company, you go and tell your boss this lar. Hire 200++ mgmt level staff to manage 100++ non mgmt level staff.
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post Jan 27 2014, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(MonkeyDLuffy @ Jan 27 2014, 12:42 PM)
Alright... When you join a bank OR construction company, you go and tell your boss this lar. Hire 200++ mgmt level staff to manage 100++ non mgmt level staff.
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magnate wor bro. my employed printing firm already got 300+ exec and above ppl wor. also is public listed company. just creative arts and designers alone we got around 120 ppl. servicing and exec and sales amount to 100+, managers got around 40. overall office ppl around 300 liao. production and warehousing and general is little cause we run full automation bro.



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i'm quite certain 200+ exec for a big magnate like spsetia is like sapsapsui oni bro. construction require high manpower. from logistic inquisition to health and safety alone i think need more than 400. my firm consider small kuci liao but imagine if construction like spsetia. they compared to us they are like super giants in a big industry, while we are already giants in our industry. honestly bro, 200+ is like small kuci dei.
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post Jan 27 2014, 02:41 PM

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I am NOT surprise when you say 200++ employee. But when you said 200++ mgmt level staff, thats weird. You seldom hear a local company having 200++ mgmt level staff. Thats too inefficient. You can have about 50 mgmt level staff managing about 500 employee BUT you wont hear a company having 50 mgmt level staff managing 100 employee. IF this happen, it means something is wrong.

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post Jan 27 2014, 02:45 PM

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rugila leave....bonus every year more than 5 months lor...
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QUOTE(MonkeyDLuffy @ Jan 27 2014, 02:41 PM)
I am NOT surprise when you say 200++ employee. But when you said 200++ mgmt level staff, thats weird. You seldom hear a local company having 200++ mgmt level staff. Thats too inefficient. You can have about 50 mgmt level staff managing about 500 employee BUT you wont hear a company having 50 mgmt level staff managing 100 employee. IF this happen, it means something is wrong.
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50 management manage 100 employee is pretty normal in multinational company.

where do u come from btw? i mean company
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post Jan 27 2014, 04:01 PM

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So now SP Setia will go one of two ways:

1) They implode due to a severe loss of talent.

2) They excel much more quickly, due to all the old farts leaving, allowing much needed change to happen fast with the new generation at the helm.

I'm leaning towards the 2nd option, assuming the remaining bosses of SP Setia have got the guts and the brains.
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post Jan 27 2014, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(dothackRAVE @ Jan 27 2014, 04:01 PM)
So now SP Setia will go one of two ways:

1) They implode due to a severe loss of talent.

2) They excel much more quickly, due to all the old farts leaving, allowing much needed change to happen fast with the new generation at the helm.

I'm leaning towards the 2nd option, assuming the remaining bosses of SP Setia have got the guts and the brains.
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Actually its neither 1 or 2, its 3

its PNB bring in their own people with a different working culture altogether.

Existing projects will still continue - BAU but for new Projects will see a new direction and approach.

Wheher it works or not, only time will tell.


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post Jan 27 2014, 04:25 PM

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sp setia under pnb. i wonder what direction they are heading now
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post Jan 27 2014, 04:28 PM

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WOW, /K SO MANY PEOPLE WITH SENIOR MANAGEMENT LEVEL KIND OF MENTALITY, NO WONDER MOSTLY 20K MONTHLY INCOME laugh.gif
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post Jan 27 2014, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(whyteaz @ Jan 27 2014, 03:29 PM)
50 management manage 100 employee is pretty normal in multinational company.

where do u come from btw? i mean company
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I come from a company where we only have about 20++ mgmt staff handling more than 300 staff. When I said Management Level, its all those Head of Department and above.

Unit Head reports to Head of Department
Head of Department reports to Head of Division
Head of Division reports to CEO


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post Jan 28 2014, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(MonkeyDLuffy @ Jan 27 2014, 04:56 PM)
I come from a company where we only have about 20++ mgmt staff handling more than 300 staff. When I said Management Level, its all those Head of Department and above.

Unit Head reports to Head of Department
Head of Department reports to Head of Division
Head of Division reports to CEO
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if a manager is not consider as management level i think u got autism

btw, 300+20 staff is quite small compare to multinational or sps

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post Jan 28 2014, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(whyteaz @ Jan 28 2014, 10:25 AM)
if a manager is not consider as management level i think u got autism

btw, 300+20 staff is quite small compare to multinational or sps
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i think he shouldve said senior-level management
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post Jan 28 2014, 10:33 AM

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wah...kopitiam thread can have this type of formal arguments....
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post Jan 28 2014, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Boom Mortar @ Jan 22 2014, 11:34 AM)
takde kesetiaan langsung mia worker
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post Jan 28 2014, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(empyreal @ Jan 28 2014, 10:28 AM)
i think he shouldve said senior-level management
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post Jan 28 2014, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 22 2014, 07:55 PM)
my ceo is a very close friend to SP Setia's ceo. I am afraid for my company in the future as we are also growing from a small enterprise and now the largest company in Malaysia.
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ur company topglove? cos my sis-in-law gave me a lot insider news abt how the CEO from these 2 company... ummm... i better not say anything

QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 22 2014, 09:11 PM)
once the staff leave, the suppliers/contractors also lari b4 kicked out coz not bumi

then all their new houses will be built by bumi builders only, good luck to the buyers
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u are right. this is happening (cant reveal more)

QUOTE(Freeloader @ Jan 24 2014, 09:50 PM)
200 people gone is quite a lot wor.
Lets see how the new 200 people can bring this company up.
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its actually 250... estimate to be 400 ppl leaving.

QUOTE(MonkeyDLuffy @ Jan 27 2014, 09:31 AM)
200+ Are you sure they even have that many staff in the first place. The new company can absorb so many or not. Unless the big boss personally asked you to join. If you saja saja follow people and ends up NOT receiving the new job offer, who is going to suffer.
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its 250 ppl.. and i did not say 200 ppls are the management.... these 250 ppl includes management, the pioneering team and brains who built this company. there will be 400 ppl leaving btw.

At SP Setia, the question is not who will replace Liew but who will bring in 250 "foot soldiers" to replace the 250 who will quit SP Setia to mostly join Eco World.

Those 250 are the nuts and bolts of the once formidable SP Setia juggernaut.


just because your puny company only have 20 managers/hud doesnt mean other BIG company cannot have 200 management..

QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jan 27 2014, 09:47 AM)
U manyak naive.
U try to check how many sister company park under SP Setia bhd umbrella.

200+ (if all from mid management to top management level), instant arrow onto the knee to the former company
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its 250 ppl ...next mth is 400 ppl

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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 28 2014, 12:40 PM)
ur company topglove? cos my sis-in-law gave me a lot insider news abt how the CEO from these 2 company... ummm... i better not say anything
u are right. this is happening (cant reveal more)
its actually 250... estimate to be 400 ppl leaving.
its 250 ppl.. and i did not say 200 ppls are the management.... these 250 ppl includes management, the pioneering team and brains who built this company. there will be 400 ppl leaving btw.

At SP Setia, the question is not who will replace Liew but who will bring in 250 "foot soldiers" to replace the 250 who will quit SP Setia to mostly join Eco World.

Those 250 are the nuts and bolts of the once formidable SP Setia juggernaut.


just because your puny company only have 20 managers/hud doesnt mean other BIG company cannot have 200 management..
its 250 ppl ...next mth is 400 ppl
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My friend is staying at sp setia, he told me most that leaving are experiences staffs.

So left junior to run the show for xp setia

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