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Military Thread V11, #Condolences9MMRO :(
Military Thread V11, #Condolences9MMRO :(
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Feb 21 2014, 03:37 AM
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Feb 21 2014, 04:00 AM
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Feb 21 2014, 03:42 AM) Strange thing is all these sph, K9, PZH2000 and Caesar have gone thru terrain test in msia i like tracked because it offer some better protection to the crews in case of any shell fragmentation and overall small arms protectionMaybe it's high time to pick something wheeled well, u gain mobility and flexibility but reduced protection I think evaluations completed since it was like ages ago when they tested those vehicles but dunno which one army will choose. |
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Feb 21 2014, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(azriel @ Feb 21 2014, 09:44 AM) Indonesia did not by any K9 but bought 37 unit Caesar SPH. The Caesars was chosen as it can fit into a Herc. First batch of delivery scheduled this year. The it leave it a few choices already Pzh2000 or K9, if malaysia were to follow not to buy similar equipments with their neighbors Nexter Systems receives an order for 37 Caesar 155mm self-propelled howitzers from Indonesia Besides the Caesar, Indonesia also ordered 36 unit Astros II MK.6 MLRS. First batch of delivery scheduled also this year. lndonesia Ordered 36 Astros II Rocket Systems QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 21 2014, 10:34 AM) Depend on strategy use. But also the most expensive iinm from my point of view wheeled best suited for fast hit and run, ambush enemy front lines. Best use in behind the defensive lines as risk exposure being attack is at lowest. so there is no point to have heavy armor for protection. I like archer sph the most. as for tracked it would be good at offensive operations in fire support. Heavier armor will help to survives from enemy ambush in enemy territories. if I have to choose I would go for archer sph. |
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Feb 21 2014, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 21 2014, 11:19 AM) Archer is having problem. I think the army would rather have a ready product then wait for it develop again norway recently withdraw from the project. It would be gooding if we enter into the project as well making our own guided round as well. K9 there seem to have a few problem as well. Some korean forum discuss that their auto loader is not as fast as advertised Officially pzh2000 9 rounds while K9 6 rounds perminute although K9 is 10ton lighter Some local journalist mention we might get second hand unit of pzh2000 from dutch army if the deal went through, dunno true or not QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Feb 21 2014, 11:21 AM) dari segi long-term cost, K9 is the better bet, since Pzh2000 is German-made, have a more complex system and more expensive spare-parts.. K9 maybe can come with some deal on dokdo class ldp This post has been edited by thpace: Feb 21 2014, 11:41 AM |
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Feb 21 2014, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 21 2014, 11:55 AM) Kalau k9 bagi full tot boleh lar. K9 10 lighter with same MTU as pzh2000, i think evaluation it passed the terrain testYang saya risau ialah k9 dan pzh2000 terlebih berat. Archer start delivering dec last years so no problem. We can go for enhance development. German still got surplus sph. crotia did get the deal done at usd35 for 2nd hand pzh2000. Not sure if we being offer such deals. QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Feb 21 2014, 11:59 AM) rasa yer boleh dapat full ToT ni utk sph China tu, kalau cost cantek, can get them at higher quantity China? Everything in china will some how got quality issues |
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Feb 21 2014, 12:15 PM
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Feb 21 2014, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Feb 21 2014, 12:14 PM) K9 got targeting system? Coz they missed NK's arty positions horribly...even SK news agency yg cakap.. Got la.. tak kan modern sph no targeting system by samsung U should know SK only retaliate like 3 hours later after the first shot. By tat time north is already hiding or move to another location SK news critise the slow response by the ROK to deal such with attack but didnt mention wther they hit or miss |
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Feb 21 2014, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Feb 21 2014, 12:24 PM) I think Malaysia already on very good terms with China, heck we even didnt sticked with our ASEAN partners on a resolution about China's aggresive involvement in SCS.. In face both are good term. There one good article on malaysia china relationship is archer sph that more expensive and heavy? coz i think i could live with myself if we go for cheaper sph.. http://www.aspistrategist.org.au/why-malay...-china-for-now/ But both sides are on the edge as well |
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Feb 21 2014, 12:40 PM
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Feb 21 2014, 03:36 PM
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Feb 21 2014, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 21 2014, 03:56 PM) they have F35, we got pak fa Ya, they surely would like to test against their own f35 or f22 If get must force those russiks to open maintenace center in malaysia to avoid problems QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 21 2014, 04:11 PM) so kind ? |
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Feb 21 2014, 11:18 PM
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Mar 1 2014, 01:59 AM
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another russion war?
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Mar 1 2014, 02:39 AM
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protection yes.. armed intervention no
too much hassle for russia.. plus as long no new ppl in the government try to touch their black sea fleet, russian might just close one eye |
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Mar 11 2014, 01:24 AM
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QUOTE(acapniamaxtor @ Mar 10 2014, 11:11 PM) Malaysia military does not allow reporter nor journalist on-board their aircraft unless permitted, same goes to civil search and rescue service. No journalist or reported are permitted Why? I assume malaysia is a very red tape country.. everything have to get approval Why need approval? That you have to ask our head of nation Why him? Because he have the final Yes or No Why must be him? I aslo dunno |
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QUOTE(xtrabite @ Mar 11 2014, 12:03 PM) Is there any possibility that mh370 going up instead of descending, thus making it out of radar range, which is why we need AWACS right? Calling military expert to verify... Going up to where? They would eventually have to descend also. Any ground radar can pick up immediately once they descend. Even without transponder, it will show up on radar as one big unidentified object Actually looking SR-17 Black bird, the russian radar know the sr-17 that fly several time higher than commercial jet is up there but they cant do anything it so high that their fighter plane and sam system could not reach it If the 70s tech can detect to such high altitude, i think today radar is capable to at least up to such standard AWACS primary task is to track plane that are out range of ground radars and acting communication relay point. |
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Mar 14 2014, 03:35 AM
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QUOTE(cukobi @ Mar 13 2014, 01:50 PM) we're past that...now waiting for s400 export version that the russian will sell it either 2014 or 2015... The waiting list is already queue up. I don't know whether we will join the list or not...depends on the budget allocation. too expensive even if we can purchase it Even if we able to purchase, our negbour sure eyes with cautions actually s300 system is similar capable but much cheaper system plus we like to customize our system. So there might be export version for s300 system for malaysia if we were to purchase. Malaysia have a big air space to defend, duno how many squadron is needed anyway, anyone have any idea? |
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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Mar 14 2014, 10:28 AM) S-400 is actually an upgraded s-300 with the addition of a 40N6 missile with it's 400km range. And regarding our Neighbours, Vietnam already got it. I read online they say s400 is a brand new system that look similar to older s300 and with better ABM performance and added "stealth detection" capabilities together with improved missiles intercept systemps: I suggest that this thread not be use for MH370 related topic. We have specific thread for those. That is why i say, if we are the first export to get the s400 system, sure will raise a few eyebrows, especially murica who sure will beg us to have training with them and see how their f22 0r f35 will perform But that is long hope, S300 sound more reasonable and affordable for us even the S-300VM look good compared to S-300PMU |
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