THEY DOO??!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!!?!!!!
shite...... too bad im with my praetorian 730


even the SN25P can fit two SATA disks and an optical, why settle with one?

size does not matter .... but what about performance ??

i had my barebone from Shuttle last time for sc 478......

it served me well until the day i had switch to higher end graphic card....

the mobo and PSU gone after 3 months of using it without much intensive gaming...

the same goes for my brother's shuttle ... he had the same problem by running X850XTPE the time...

ever since that i would said mATX has better securement as compared to those SFF with custom mobo..... which u can't get any replacement after warranty is due...

nahh shuttles have better performance than the rest of the SFF barebone packages.

in fact, if you don't try to OC it to the max (which is a hard thing to do since they have great OC features and the boards are mighty stable)

and basically if you cram lots of hot stuff in, i wouldn't be surprised why it died so quickly.

cut a big hole and chuck a nice 200cfm fan inside. that should solve the heat problem

Yeah buddy... its like matx boards these days are abundant, there's nice cases for it (which in most cases, look better than their ATX counterparts) but reading around the LYN, it still seems that the form factor can't shake off its budget image.

Silverstone SG01 Evolution
http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-sg01Evolution.htm

Silverstone TJ08 <-- Best matx case around I think.
http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-tj08.htm

Coolermaster Centurion 540
http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=e...cro%20ATX%20540



As you know, Shuttle was doing motherboards and almost went out of business until they started the XPC business... and we used to laugh when ppl use shuttle boards...hahahahha. Of course with XPC, their image is different but did their product actually improve, this part I dunno.

lol even low end shuttles are priced sky high nowadays...the sn25p is still 1.8k
and as for their quality - better now, with reliability issues lessening with each model

Gua kata matx ler... seems like ppl still think of it as mobos for boring companies and budget systems.

Back on Shuttles, they're really killing themselves like that cos they no longer have the market to themselves. There's the mac mini's and Aopen mini's (along with the many others that hasn't launched yet) that's smaller than them..... and the more flexible mATX form factor.

They did try to have an entry level product though... SS59G and SK21G selling for around RM600 but the chipsets are just pathetic.

actually it is more of an expandibility issue

Lol well hey I never found the need for many HDDs since I rarely use up a lot of disk space. Anything I download is burned to DVD except for music which I use daily, so it's fine by me.
The HDD is the loudest thing in my rig anyway, so adding another would be a drastic difference.

why is there a need for 2 hard disk? just to play safe if the primary one goes down. you dun want the data to get loss don't you?

I know lar....u got GF di...that's why don't need so many HDD

Nope.... "media"

Bwa ha ha ha! I've been telling this old n00b too much.

Back on topic though, I just realized the SN27P2 only uses USB mice/keyboards, which sucks a lil since that will force me to change my keyboard and possibly my MX1000 as well since it has jumping issues on USB which is why I'm using it on PS2.

However, the low price of the AM2 mobos are also such that I might just stick to my LianLi. After all, RM410 for a M2N-E is irresistable for someone who doesn't need SLI.

guys..where do you get shuttle xpc`s?i cant seem to find a place that sells them..im looking at the sn21g5 in particular

Try find at C-Zone.

Check this out.. Nexus psile.

4mm thick aluminum, mini-itx based case

Veli veli high end stuff.

http://www.psile.com/index.php?ID=2

OMG!!! this is definitely the nicest SFF casing i eva seen period!!! but d optical drive, having d slot feature, itz gonna b troublesome to find a replacement ryt? unless from the manufacturer...

er, gez not then.



dem, i like this casing man,

This post has been edited by r4ydc24: Jul 12 2006, 11:02 AM

Goodness sniper! That looks sexy!
But.. it's from Nexus, which means it will never see the light of day here in M'sia.

Ey dinster/moderno, if you're reading this, it's time to expand your business and pick up more companies to play distributor!

Damn, interested to get sff casing for m-atx. Nice casing.

any lubangs for slimline slot loading optical drives in taiwan, sniper?

wonder how much it cost
I wanna get one (only if I have money)