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ar188
post Jan 5 2014, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jan 5 2014, 02:01 PM)
you need certain temperature or climate to make the car more safe? hmm.gif
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if your engine overheat in desert temperature.. very safe to drive wan issit? or you use summer tires in winter area? or your radiator rubber hose crack due to different climate?
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post Jan 5 2014, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jan 5 2014, 02:07 PM)
ok.... now the topic is about air bags and crumple zone right?
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i think the topic OT abit.. in the last 1-2page.
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post Jan 5 2014, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jan 5 2014, 03:13 PM)
At least the Exora have 40 ECE regulations complied.  The Preve/Suprima had more EU homoloagations.  EU regulations are on going target and they had achieved that.  The Suprima/Preve is the bencmark for the regulations, so they can bring those in P2-30A. They want to make it official, so they prepared everything they can to launch Exora/Preve/Suprima/GSC in europe market.
What regulations need to follow climate?
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lets just talk about the current export market, no need to think so far about EU..
what are the latest mth sales figures for sg/thai/indo/Aussie?

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post Jan 5 2014, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jan 5 2014, 03:26 PM)
Achieving EU regulations is nothing to do with sales figures.
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obviously you spend time to achieve those regulations in hopes to be able to sell in those countries right? why waste time and resources if you dont want sales in EU? so before heading off to EU... what about those markets already open.. got meet sales figures, or what are the results like? any efforts to improve those sales?
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post Jan 5 2014, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jan 5 2014, 04:01 PM)
Or you want engine joins you inside cabin? hmm.gif
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or you can prefer to have other people's engine drop into your car after you swerve to avoid hitting the other accident car
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post Jan 5 2014, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jan 5 2014, 04:05 PM)
That is why you buy auto insurance lol.
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auto insurance is after the fact... it wont save you when you eat that guys engine block
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post Jan 5 2014, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jan 5 2014, 04:10 PM)
You can get choke while eating. Do you stop eating?
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man you got weird reasoning... do you eat 200kg aluminium?
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post Jan 5 2014, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jan 5 2014, 04:13 PM)
The odd of getting engine block in your face while driving is at least as low as choke while eating. You might struck by lightning or even asteroid but the odd is obviously too low to consider as a threat.
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the main point is one less lump of metal on the road is preferable to other road users during such accidents.
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post Jan 5 2014, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jan 5 2014, 04:26 PM)
Ar188 is in denial mode, sure fire sign that this guy might have bought a more expensive imports without the safety features included in preve.

Alo brother, have u seen an ACCIDENT before? ANY CAR IN THIS WORLD CANT SAVE PEOPLE FROM STUPIDITY. U drive over the speed limit, even a tank cant save u. Lets see if an aeroplane drop u in tank with a drop velocity of 160kmh to the ground, i want to see whether u can still survive the drop or not.

Fact remains nobody can predict and guarantee safety of everyone during a crash, based on your logic, then even a flying tyres can kill u during a crash, so what now? Make sure the tyre wont fly off during the crash? Have u seen any car manufacturer did that?

Better yet, have u seen a car manufacturer 100%guarantee their engine wont come out during a crash? None, zit, nada.

U are expecting a car to magically prevent its parts from flying off in a high speed crash? Do u even know why it wont work? Have u studied physics before?

Please la dont talk kok and spread your denial justification here, u make other non proton users look bad.
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eh.. i already said in earlier post, the preve safety cage is quite strong and intact ler.
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post Jan 5 2014, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(necrox77 @ Jan 5 2014, 04:34 PM)
uncle ar188 really focus on engine fly.

If you kena accident, which 1 come priority? you the driver n family friends inside car or the other people. Current technology have their limitation and it is up to the government to prioritize which come 1st, driver or other people. That is why ANCAP and Euro NCAP safety evaluation have difference preference. If i remembered correctly ANCAP focus on the driver safety aspect while Euro NCAP focus on the pedestrian.
as i already mention, the cabin structure was built well cos it was found intact for the preve ...

engine fly part, i was concern about other innocent "speed abiding driver" buta buta kena..
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post Jan 5 2014, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(MrssV @ Jan 5 2014, 06:11 PM)
I'm not sure if it actually did flew off, its more like the engine fall after the car rolls several time.

You should be more concern of flying/rolling cars instead... lol
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yes that would be the primary concern, but after narrowly swerving to avoid flying/rolling car.. you end up hitting the engine block.. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 5 2014, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Jan 5 2014, 08:01 PM)
Been reading all your posts since the start of this thread.

Wasn't sure what was your objective actually but allow me to state my point of views.

- It is an accident anyway....even if the engine is not designed to eject in a flying "manner"... anything could just happen on the road..
Bak kata perpatah "Malang tidak berbau"

- At the speed of 160kph, anything could really happen and there is no a fixed result or type of aftermath in the first place, not myself and even you were there witnessing the event taking place.

- I strongly suggest that if you are so keen to know, to first get a clear answer from PROTON about this safety feature and perhaps writing an article like mengsuan had suggested so that all these feedbacks could be factored into the next technology upgrades.

I would definitely be the first person to help sharing the article on all social media accounts I own to support for this to go through. I am sure all of us here are keen to help too...
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so its very simple.. there is no such thing as engine detach feature.. its a high speed accident , and due to the nature of the accident, the engine flew out..

use logic la.. if manufacturer say this is a safety feature then there will be a lawsuit if that engine detaches and hits innocent people.
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QUOTE(munky @ Jan 5 2014, 08:55 PM)
user posted image

see clearly la.. slide under the chassis =/= drop out to the road la..
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post Jan 5 2014, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(nefashu @ Jan 5 2014, 08:59 PM)
Lot of forumer has share link about engine detach featured on Subaru, Volvo, Mercedez, Ferrari and you still in denial? Because Proton does not mention it so the featured is not there?

Even if airbag kil people inside the car, you think people can easily sue the automaker?
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please know the difference between contained in the engine bay and drop out on to the road.. doh.gif
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post Jan 5 2014, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(nefashu @ Jan 5 2014, 09:06 PM)
"the Subaru Boxer engine disconnects and slides underneath the vehicle"

It mean, the engine wont stay inside the engine bay any more. It will slide under ur car freely without dragging the car.
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eh... see the blue diagram.. cannot see the engine dips down into the transmission tunnel?

besides these are for 4x4 and RWD cars with transmission tunnel la.. FWD car with transverse mounting engine where got place for engine to dip down?
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post Jan 5 2014, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(nefashu @ Jan 5 2014, 09:11 PM)
Did u realize there is arrow pointing downward on the engine? It let u know the direction on the engine in case of accident. The engine will slide like that to prevent it from colliding with the cabin
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u do know the arrow shows the direction of the movement of the engine.. and the engine along with rear drive shaft is shown dip down right? in no way it shows the engine is dropped to the ground.. indicating it;s stilll physically restrained in the engine bay,,,


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post Jan 5 2014, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(nefashu @ Jan 5 2014, 09:17 PM)
"disconnects and slides underneath the vehicle"

Which part did u not understand? If the engine is build to stay there, it wont slide away and it wont disconnect.
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u know there is more than one engine mounting to hold the engine right?
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post Jan 5 2014, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(nefashu @ Jan 5 2014, 09:20 PM)
I guess u dont really know what slide mean. so here is "slide"

v. slid (sld), slid·ing, slides
v.intr.
1. To move over a surface while maintaining smooth continuous contact.
2. To coast on a slippery surface, such as ice or snow.
3. To pass smoothly and quietly; glide: slid past the door without anyone noticing.
4. To go unattended or unacted upon: Let the matter slide.
5. To lose a secure footing or positioning; shift out of place; slip: slid on the ice and fell.
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this describes a sliding action as well.. in no way does it imply to slide means come loose from the engine bay
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post Jan 5 2014, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(ramboramsey @ Jan 5 2014, 09:34 PM)
Where in the world got engine mounting like that? Pls accept defeat gracefully. Just because its a proton doesn't mean it cannot have good engineering. maybe can doubt the built to certain extend, but not engineering.
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eh i didnt say that is the engine mounting la.. doh.gif i was explaining sliding action doesnt mean engine fully detached from the car..
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post Jan 5 2014, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jan 5 2014, 09:36 PM)
Bro, this is revolutionary sliding drawer type engine mounting. The next big thing in auto industry.
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I guess u dont really know what slide mean. so here is "slide"

v. slid (sld), slid·ing, slides
v.intr.
1. To move over a surface while maintaining smooth continuous contact.
2. To coast on a slippery surface, such as ice or snow.
3. To pass smoothly and quietly; glide: slid past the door without anyone noticing.
4. To go unattended or unacted upon: Let the matter slide.
5. To lose a secure footing or positioning; shift out of place; slip: slid on the ice and fell.

i was answering this person's post la. doh.gif

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