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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V57, Nothing to see here...

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TitanRev
post Jan 18 2014, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 18 2014, 09:53 AM)
Let me enlighten you, the famous crack already happening on your tyres if you pay a closer look. I'm not a basher, let's not forget ayam a long term Falken user until today. I'm ok with that because usually my tyres start to crack, the thread will be gone by then and it's time for me to look for new donuts. Not saying who's right/wrong, but I don't know why it seems this happens alot across almost all Falkens I had used/ and or currently using, include the ZE322 in my Ganjils.
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This happens on most tires I also found them in Toyo and Bridgestone...It's due to exposure to sun, rain, brake dust, heat, oil...etc. Also using those tire shine stuff also accelerate your tire's aging (which turns into whitish/grey tires on the sidewall) All tires have some sort of anti aging chemicals since they are rubber and for the chemical to work you need to occasionally "exercise" the tire so that the chemical will be more effective. Just like a rubber band, you put it in a constant shape for long period be it stretch or not after sometimes it loss it's elasticity and breaks. This theory is the same with tires also. When I said exercise does not mean you whack everyday...

I'm exporting elastic netting also but the rubber I used are food grade and those non food grade they have some % of anti aging chemical put in because mostly they are used for trees and need to maintain elasticity when expose to environment.
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post Jan 18 2014, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(MylesAuto @ Jan 18 2014, 10:41 AM)
i like reading your post, alot info  thumbup.gif  &
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You are welcome. Knowledge is meant to be shared so it can benefit the whole society.

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 18 2014, 10:52 AM)
True that. Never thought of the fact cause didn't really bother nod.gif So, your besday is todei or yesterdei? Haji Besdei brader
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My Birthday is today. Thanks for the wishes. If coming down again let me know, bring you go eat nice fish ball noodle.

QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jan 18 2014, 11:01 AM)
Happy Birdday to Master Chew. bday.gif bday.gif
May he kena raba peha more and more. sleep.gif
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Thank you Fubar....me not master la....Hahahahaha still apprentice only.
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post Jan 18 2014, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jan 18 2014, 12:10 PM)
bday.gif bday.gif bday.gif Master Sifu TitanRev
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Thank you...

QUOTE(Darrenkls @ Jan 18 2014, 12:39 PM)
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ph34r.gif Happy Birthday Master Shifu TitanRev  bday.gif  bday.gif  ph34r.gif
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Thanks but but me not sifu like what reapers say...

QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jan 18 2014, 01:06 PM)
v12kompressor looks like im not very welcomed here since i just got my new vios...i dun wan my car later kena calar...
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I have no problem....
TitanRev
post Jan 18 2014, 01:47 PM

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Lai lai lai...used Scania Truck rear anti roll bar for sale.
50mm diameter...
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post Jan 18 2014, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jan 18 2014, 01:56 PM)
Wah, u wan put into ur gaga ar. Fuiyo, sifu really sifu
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Hahahaha....you mau be white mouse???

QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Jan 18 2014, 02:00 PM)
50kg?
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Hahahaha....18Kg...

Mahihi bro can you help me a little bit? I want to know the dimension of the bush for our rear anti roll bar. Can you ask Ms. Kim about that? the bush inner diameter difference is only 16mm and 19mm. The other dimension of the bush is same? If so can you get me the measurement? just follow below measuring method. Or those who have bought the 3Max ARb from Mahihi but not yet install. You can also help put in the data if you have them. Thank you
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A = ?
B = 19mm
C = ?
H = ?

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TitanRev
post Jan 19 2014, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(wkwong91 @ Jan 18 2014, 10:27 PM)
Happy Birthday Sifu TitanRev bday.gif
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Thank you

QUOTE(r3apers @ Jan 19 2014, 07:50 AM)
Fuiyo, wan me be white mouse tim. Thn use biba as a white mouse thn. Lol
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What? I mau gaga one....this one I can try look for PU bush for the rear ARB

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post Jan 19 2014, 12:36 PM

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ericmaxman
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/do-...#post1064473567

Also to share with other gaga member
TitanRev
post Jan 19 2014, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Jan 19 2014, 08:06 PM)
next taim jgn kacau 4x4 ph34r.gif

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This is why I like 4x4 and own 1

QUOTE(ktek @ Jan 19 2014, 08:14 PM)
just pass by whistling.gif but yeah thanks for sharing knowledge
could it because of short travel shock absorber = already fully extend jor sweat.gif
mitsu chassis satria neo? gti?
ppl also no choice. akibat double park tapi tak tinggal phone number
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Some ppl put Hp number also no pick up one best don't double park
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post Jan 19 2014, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 19 2014, 10:24 PM)
awesome weih that kinda G and car so stable.

my car if i exceed 1G and kept it at that force for prolonged period (say 2-3 second) the car will give up laugh.gif
session 2 can see me spin out many times haha
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You took part in super lap?

These few pages is really good with all the ARB, driving and handling talk.
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post Jan 20 2014, 11:41 AM

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About track driving, for the 1st few times you won't get everything accurately because you get nervous no matter how much you try to calm down. It's the adrenaline inside you that is making you excited and at the same time make you nervous. By that time, you won't be able to think very clear already one. I've experienced it since my 1st few times. So it doesn't matter how much stuff you have read on the net, "how to drive fast in track" articles by that time reach the track everything you read if forgotten already one. Your stomach feel weird and your hand sweat, even sometimes the stuff you talk also like ????

What I've done for myself to be calm these days, is to just bring some food or water with me....eat, drink, walk around, talk to ppl, and look see look see around and don't think about gong on the track, the less you think the less nervous you be. GO toilet, pee then sit at the pit beside your car and just watch how things go around you. When I go track, I don't go see how the cars drive by at the main straight. I just sit there quietly at a corner...this is to relax myself just do some final check on the car before you are called in.

The least thing you want to think about before you hit the track is how fast I want to do this or that. I don't talk much about how I will drive on track since I don't know how to describe them. Plus I have never got the chance to have a coach beside me to teach me turn this, brake that...etc. so sometimes really have to pardon me if when ask me how this on track, how that... my reply is I don't know just try like this or like that. Not that I don't want to help is because not easy for me to explain. I only know the basics so I improve by having more and more track time.

so for guys like davidke20 and others, who are very strong in explaining they will be better to describe things than me.....this don't mean I won't try to explain but I afraid if I explain after wrong expression....Hahahahaha
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post Jan 20 2014, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Jan 20 2014, 09:04 AM)
yesterday i tried my best... 1.01.12 saja... haizzzzzz.............
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Not bad got improvement mah....next round if got event again lets meet

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post Jan 20 2014, 11:45 AM

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BTW, what I did on Sunday...tested and car nothing wrong.
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I plugged off the inlet back into the IM.
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post Jan 20 2014, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Jan 20 2014, 12:55 PM)
How much total damage ? Whatsapp me.
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I got the OCT for 200. The other stuff I got total about 30-40 bucks.

I got put this into the kosong OCT
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Then mod my OCT inlet to this
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post Jan 20 2014, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jan 20 2014, 02:10 PM)
TitanRev juz wana check OCT run open and close got different ar? if open thn the intake manifold there block it?
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Open system, you vent into atmosphere. Running Open system you need to plugged off the opening at the intake manifold and the intake pipe with silicone end caps like below.
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Closed system, you recirculate it back into the intake manifold but if your OCT is not baffled then your blow by gas will get sucked back into the intake manifold also because if you read my post in zerotohundred, I've mentioned that most OCT in the market is just empty canister without any baffled plate or mesh and the inlet, outlet of the OCT is just next to each other so how much blow by will have enough time to condense before get suck back in to the intake manifold from the outlet side due to vacuum from the intake...The oil vapor that gets into the OCT will only have an empty space to condense itself. IF like this the OCT is not performing at it's most efficient. Hence I put in SS wire mesh and extend the inlet tube to the OCT. 2 reason to do this, be it you running open/closed system. you increase the distance of the outlet opening and the inlet which effectively reduce the amount of blow by getting suck backed in. With the wire mesh put in and the hose extend the inlet to more than 3/4 into the tank. You create a bigger total area, further and blocked path for the oil vapor to get sucked back into the intake manifold.

Below is my CARBING OCT from my other car. Look at the amount of blow by it has captured because this OCT is not baffled also, you can see the return hose back into the intake manifold also become dark brown colour already. Also placing your OCT as far as possible from heat source also helps the canister to stay cold and helps condense the oil vapor that goes into the canister before it can escape from the canister. Simple example, when you boil water if you don;t close the lid on the pot, the water will dry up in the pot, When you put the lid of the pot over the steam, you will start to see steam condensing over the lip and soon become water droplet. The same principle applies to OCT also.
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post Jan 20 2014, 03:15 PM

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Notes to add, on the gaga, the return inlet to the intake manifold will be difficult to hook up a hose clamp for a closed system due to the size of the inlet back into the intake manifold is different from the outlet of the rocker cover. I try to do a closed system but when I found out the return opening was smaller than the hose, I was stun at 1st..thinking how to solve the problem since it was SAT evening and shops are closed so what I did is I went and found some old rubber hose from my other cars which I don't used them anymore and cut a piece and fit a ALU plug over 1 end of the hose before I plug it into the return opening. Like below. The ALU plug piece I have was supplied with my CARBING OCT which I didn't use it so I used it on this occasion. If you do not have or not able to get a silicone plug caps, you can plug the end of the rubber hose with a bolt also but make sure the size is bigger then the hose ID so that it fits tightly into the rubber hose.
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post Jan 20 2014, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jan 20 2014, 03:28 PM)
oic, so close or open is almost the same icic, but mostly will need to baffled/mod 1st in the OCT if the OCT come in kosong tin.

1 more question works engineering got optional can put breather filter.. so if do open system still need it? or the breather filter only juz for show only?
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The breather is actually for open system use but I find it very Bengish to use so I just do like in my picture. If you plan to use the filter provided in the kit, the outlet opening can use a bolt to close it off so only exit for pressure is the filter. If you plug off the outlet and not put a filter on top. Your canister will start to have pressure build up inside it.

Yeah, most OCT sold in market is empty inside and those baffled ones are very very expensive.
This one from Mishimoto, USA
http://www.mishimoto.com/mishimoto-baffled...-catch-can.html

This one from Saikou Michi, USA also
http://www.saikoumichi.com/OCC_explanation.htm

These are from Ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/baffled-oil-catch-tank

Both Saikou and Mishimoto I have asked for their pricing and have them shipped to Malaysia will cost closed to or over 1K.

Important is the OCT design rather than brand. Find a OCT that you can use screw or allen key to opne up the whole thing and have access to the canister. Like this better to do this DIY. Like below..the WORKS one also can do since got a big opening on top can still slot in the wire mesh.
http://www.wesellcarparts.com/store/ProdIm...eddy_oldoil.jpg

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post Jan 20 2014, 03:54 PM

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Info sharing with all gaga members. If your car mileage is very high or heavy footer, please clean your throttle body because I notice after cleaning the TB for the 2nd time during OCT install, the car start up RPM is better. Go and try doing it.
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post Jan 20 2014, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jan 20 2014, 04:13 PM)
oic, thn i better get works engineering or similiar oct lo, since chose cap ayam wan i think cannot open the top or bottom only can unscrew the inlet and outlet only iinm...

coz i intend get this in ... quite cheap.... but dunno useful or not...

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mine been 1/4 dirty already becoz of hks filter...  sweat.gif
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The picture you posted is an industrial grade oil/air separator. I have used this also but 1 thing to note is the clear plastic you need to watch out. Over time the plastic gets brittle and crack will start to develop because of hot engine bay area and vibration also the seal for the clear plastic is not very lasting overtime you will have oil seeping out from the oil seal area. If you want to use such item you can opt for fuel filter better.


QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Jan 20 2014, 04:17 PM)
wow shifu, what did you do? the expected results of this mod?
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What I did is to eliminate all those blow by gas going into the intake manifold and intake pipe. Thus avoiding the throttle body from having oil sludge and stuff stuck to the TB and the whole TB opening. Overtime, you will experience sticky TB if the dirt gets thicker and thicker.


QUOTE(dagreatdzul @ Jan 20 2014, 04:23 PM)
wahhhh its a good mods, i'm actually considering it.
but i think i need to put breather coz the hot air/vapour need to go out.
from the picture u just use 1 inlet?
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You mean at the OCT or the plug in the picture. The plug is to seal off the inlet/return back into the intake manifold. (vacuum side) I just vent the pressure at the OCT's outlet which you see I left it opening.


Just a side note, a lot of ppl mistaken OCT as a performance modification. It's ACTUALLY VERY WRONG. It's a device used to protect and filter dirty blow by which consist of exhaust gases, water vapour (from atmosphere) and dirty stuff. View it as a filter like your house water filter.

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post Jan 20 2014, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jan 20 2014, 04:13 PM)
oic, thn i better get works engineering or similiar oct lo, since chose cap ayam wan i think cannot open the top or bottom only can unscrew the inlet and outlet only iinm...

coz i intend get this in ... quite cheap.... but dunno useful or not...

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mine been 1/4 dirty already becoz of hks filter...  sweat.gif
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If it's just dust easy to clean and wipe off with cleaner. Problem is when you have blow by oil vapor mixed with the dust....very hard to clean and have to clean many times only can clean it off thoroughly. You know with the oil vapor mixed with dust I need to use heavy duty degreaser to clean away all those dirty stuff.
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post Jan 20 2014, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(dagreatdzul @ Jan 20 2014, 05:01 PM)
ohh i meant the OCT
yup. for my case i dont use breather hose now. so i have a lot of oil stains in my engine bay.
need to clean them often mia.hehe so i want to use the OCT to 'catch' the oil coming from there. icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
i think i will go for the cheapo wan..hehehe. shud be ok right..?
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I just let the pressure vent out from the OCT outlet since my OCT is baffled so I won't worry much about oil staining the engine bay. Ermm....price or brand of the OCT not important. You can modify it like how I did and posted in this below thread. Additional parts I used all can get from hardware store one and for the SS washing mesh can get at family store or any kedai runcit.
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/do-...de-version.html

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