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bwin999
post Jan 15 2014, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Jan 15 2014, 12:47 PM)
why so fast change donut ? becoz of cibaistone M3 ?

you dont want save more $, throw ur kupang rims and change to 14/15" rim and donut altogether ?

if 15 inch rim, 195/50/R15 is the best optimum and cost competitive tyre in gaga.
no sagat issues or rubbing daun pisang issue.

55 is the wall thickness.
so 55 side wall will be thicker than 50.
55 will cause to raba raba ur daun pisang.
but its still OK because not everytime it will kena. only sometimes when doing full rotate.
handling wise, 50 will be slightly better than 55. by how much if u ask; depend on ur buttdyno.
that is the con.

pro ?
55 will be more comfort than 50  nod.gif
at times when I am on unker mood, I rather drive the BLM in my house than my SE.
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If change RIM + Tyre... cost expensive...

But I saw Michelin PS3 doesn't have R13,
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post Jan 15 2014, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(bwin999 @ Jan 15 2014, 02:14 PM)
175/70/r13 if not mistaken...

original Saga SV. lol

First, I dont want to change the RIM... WIll remain at 13...

Dono if 185 or 195 are suitable...

I also not sure the middle number... 70...

as dares recommend 195/55/r15....

I dono why when RIM 15 and 195 the middle figure need to at 55...

Pls enlighten me...
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as ur rim size is bigger, the aspect ratio of the should be lesser. if not, nanti kena wheel arch ma.

tyre size 101 :
http://www.bridgestoneselect.com.au/learnt...urTyreSize.aspx

standard size tyre for gaga :
13" rim : 175/70/r13
14" rim : 185/65/r14
15" rim : 195/50/r15


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post Jan 15 2014, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jan 15 2014, 12:55 PM)
as ur rim size is bigger, the aspect ratio of the should be lesser. if not, nanti kena wheel arch ma.

tyre size 101 :
http://www.bridgestoneselect.com.au/learnt...urTyreSize.aspx

standard size tyre for gaga :
13" rim : 175/70/r13
14" rim : 185/65/r14
15" rim : 195/50/r15
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For r13 RIM, can put P185/70R13?

http://toyotires.com/tire/pattern/extensa-...ll-season-tires

btw, realy hard to find 13" good tyre...
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post Jan 15 2014, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(bwin999 @ Jan 15 2014, 01:53 PM)
If change RIM + Tyre... cost expensive...

But I saw Michelin PS3 doesn't have R13,
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then save money lor. . use the M3 first ba. .regard its a non gripping tyre for normal daily usage, its fine.
even my SE is still with the stock M5 aje. . with strut bars and anti roll bar installed mine u. .
new car, got many expenditures. .loan la, maintenance la, insurance la
and some eenee mineli poison here and there. .
if u want say coz new tyre want trade in for other tyre, then up to you lu. . for me waste money aje. .
the $ used to change new tyres, I can take and do other mods first. . when I am happy with all the mods baru I tukar tyre (when thread habis). .
M3/M5 bad grip on dry, yes
M3/M5 very the farking bad grip on wet, farking yes
but yet I am still surviving with my M5 and still whacking konars; throwing my dogs from left to right inside the car.

PS3 is performance tyre ma. . 13 and 14" tak ade mia.
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post Jan 15 2014, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Jan 15 2014, 01:02 PM)
then save money lor. . use the M3 first ba. .regard its a non gripping tyre for normal daily usage, its fine.
even my SE is still with the stock M5 aje. . with strut bars and anti roll bar installed mine u. .
new car, got many expenditures. .loan la, maintenance la, insurance la
and some eenee mineli poison here and there. .
if u want say coz new tyre want trade in for other tyre, then up to you lu. . for me waste money aje. .
the $ used to change new tyres, I can take and do other mods first. . when I am happy with all the mods baru I tukar tyre (when thread habis). .
M3/M5 bad grip on dry, yes
M3/M5 very the farking bad grip on wet, farking yes
but yet I am still surviving with my M5 and still whacking konars; throwing my dogs from left to right inside the car.

PS3 is performance tyre ma. . 13 and 14" tak ade mia.
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What you said are exactly all inside my mind... start learning about tire first.... My car still stock saga, no change anything also...

Hmmm...

Usually, we change tire after how many KMs? 10k?
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post Jan 15 2014, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(bwin999 @ Jan 15 2014, 03:02 PM)
For r13 RIM, can put P185/70R13?

http://toyotires.com/tire/pattern/extensa-...ll-season-tires

btw, realy hard to find 13" good tyre...
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can lor.
any 13" tyre also good one lor.
mau bagus punya tyre kena la upgrade to 14" or 15" punya la.
kalau poorfag jgn mimpi lor. whistling.gif
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post Jan 15 2014, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(bwin999 @ Jan 15 2014, 02:04 PM)
What you said are exactly all inside my mind... start learning about tire first.... My car still stock saga, no change anything also...

Hmmm...

Usually, we change tire after how many KMs? 10k?
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***** stone can maybe last 100k km, provided you haven't crash and get fedup of it first la.
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post Jan 15 2014, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(bwin999 @ Jan 15 2014, 03:04 PM)
What you said are exactly all inside my mind... start learning about tire first.... My car still stock saga, no change anything also...

Hmmm...

Usually, we change tire after how many KMs? 10k?
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until bunga haus @ tayar bengkak @ rosak
see the thread indicator.

This post has been edited by iskazulka: Jan 15 2014, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jan 15 2014, 01:05 PM)
can lor.
any 13" tyre also good one lor.
mau bagus punya tyre kena la upgrade to 14" or 15" punya la.
kalau poorfag jgn mimpi lor.  whistling.gif
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lol. how about this one? Any idea?

http://www.michelin.com.my/Products-Servic...er=Energy%20XM2


QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 15 2014, 01:05 PM)
***** stone can maybe last 100k km, provided you haven't crash and get fedup of it first la.
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lol. 100k... I mean usually, we change after how many Kms?
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QUOTE(bwin999 @ Jan 15 2014, 02:07 PM)
lol. 100k... I mean usually, we change after how many Kms?
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can be 10k km to 60k or even 80k km.

depends on driver, car, tires.
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QUOTE(bwin999 @ Jan 15 2014, 12:57 PM)
I'm interested in Michelin, However, I only found this http://www.michelin.com.my/Products-Servic...er=Energy%20XM2

Only 175/70/r13 the max.

further, u mentioned that can fit up to 195/55/15..

Can I choose 70 or 65 for the middle figure? Is it smaller the figure 175, den the middle figure can larger to 65 or 70?

Sorry, really noob... My RIM only 13... not going to change...
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14" tyres have more choices. You can go for 185/60/14. As long tyre size change doesn't exceed 3%.

QUOTE(bwin999 @ Jan 15 2014, 02:02 PM)
For r13 RIM, can put P185/70R13?

http://toyotires.com/tire/pattern/extensa-...ll-season-tires

btw, realy hard to find 13" good tyre...
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Still can fit 185/70/13. Such tyre height are comfortable but you will have lots of Tyre Flex when cornering hard.

QUOTE(bwin999 @ Jan 15 2014, 02:04 PM)
What you said are exactly all inside my mind... start learning about tire first.... My car still stock saga, no change anything also...

Hmmm...

Usually, we change tire after how many KMs? 10k?
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Brother, are you that rich to change Tyres every 10K Mileage? You think change tyre as cheap as change engine oil meh. tongue.gif

Can last you up to 2 years if you are just a slow driver brows.gif

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QUOTE(bwin999 @ Jan 15 2014, 03:07 PM)
lol. how about this one? Any idea?

http://www.michelin.com.my/Products-Servic...er=Energy%20XM2
lol. 100k... I mean usually, we change after how many Kms?
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13" options :
1) michelin xm2
2) goodyear duraplus
3) dunlop sp sport j3
4) bridgestone turanza ar10
5) yokohama a drive
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QUOTE(bwin999 @ Jan 15 2014, 02:04 PM)
What you said are exactly all inside my mind... start learning about tire first.... My car still stock saga, no change anything also...

Hmmm...

Usually, we change tire after how many KMs? 10k?
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shocking.gif 10k ? no la. . so fast meh, pokai lor everybodi. . we drive normal car only, not F1 laugh.gif

then play with ur car first lor.
learn more about ur car sin, the characteristic, behaviour, and etc.
once u get hold of it, then only change tyre, oso not late la.

the cibaistone should be able to last 80-100k depending on how you use. .
my M5 now ard 37k, i think around 50% thread left.
other non mileage tyres maybe 60-80k gua.
tyres don see mileage mia.
see thread and date of manufacture.

in fact, IMO, it's better to use lousy tyre now so that you know how the car behaves when its going out of control.
because u know the tyres are lousy so u tend to be more caution with every step.
with lousy tyres, u some how get a feeling where is the limit of ur car.
with such training, when u change better tyres d you can gauge how hard you want to push it. .

otherwise, if u straight start with good tyres, u do not know how to appreciate them and do not know how hard to push.

just like us being human, must go through bitter then only know how to appreciate the sweetness after the bitter part whistling.gif

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post Jan 15 2014, 02:13 PM

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Michelin, not much choices for small size tyres like 13" and 14".
Previously 165/55/14 Michelin PP2 also no longer in production.

After that can't find any size like this from Michelin.
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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Jan 15 2014, 01:11 PM)
14" tyres have more choices. You can go for 185/60/14. As long tyre size change doesn't exceed 3%.
Still can fit 185/70/13. Such tyre height are comfortable but you will have lots of Tyre Flex when cornering hard.
Brother, are you that rich to change Tyres every 10K Mileage? You think change tyre as cheap as change engine oil meh.  tongue.gif 

Can last you up to 2 years if you are just a slow driver  brows.gif
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lol. I every month around 1k millege.. dono need to change how long..
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jan 15 2014, 01:55 PM)
as ur rim size is bigger, the aspect ratio of the should be lesser. if not, nanti kena wheel arch ma.

tyre size 101 :
http://www.bridgestoneselect.com.au/learnt...urTyreSize.aspx

standard size tyre for gaga :
13" rim : 175/70/r13
14" rim : 185/65/r14
15" rim : 195/50/r15
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bang aku mia stock rim is 185/60/r14 on saga 1.3 flx exec

This post has been edited by calvin_kenni: Jan 15 2014, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jan 15 2014, 02:12 PM)
13" options :
1) michelin xm2
2) goodyear duraplus
3) dunlop sp sport j3
4) bridgestone turanza ar10
5) yokohama a drive
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or the cheapo silverstone powerblitz 1800 lol
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post Jan 15 2014, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(bwin999 @ Jan 15 2014, 02:13 PM)
lol. I every month around 1k millege.. dono need to change how long..
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tyre change guide as below:

1) bengkak << usually due to potholes
2) pancit
3) thread habis (see thread indicator at the longkang)
4) already 4yrs+ from date of manufacture << rubber will harden over time
5) thread wear pattern not uniform until too serious due to alignment/camber/toe lari (can change to back if don wan change)

This post has been edited by ruby1288: Jan 15 2014, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(bwin999 @ Jan 15 2014, 02:13 PM)
lol. I every month around 1k millege.. dono need to change how long..
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Tyres are interesting things to learn. Sometimes just think is tyre but lots need to know when change tyres and rims.

QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Jan 15 2014, 02:16 PM)
bang aku mia is 185/60/r14
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Same as me. I dunno why got 185/65/14 as OEM for Saga.
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Jan 15 2014, 02:18 PM)
tyre change guide as below:

1) bengkak << usually due to potholes
2) pancit
3) thread habis (see thread indicator at the longkang)
4) already 4yrs+ from date of manufacture << rubber will harden over time
5) thread wear pattern not uniform until too serious due to alignment/camber/toe lari
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If scared dunno how to see have to look at indicator. So far I know Michelin tyres have indicator and Falken ZE912 have this Fish eye as indicator. Will become Square and is time to change tyre by then.

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