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 [wta] Bridgestone Ecopia EP200, Comparing to Michelin Tyres

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post Jul 3 2014, 07:43 PM

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PM me where u get the price too!
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post Jul 8 2014, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(tghan89 @ Feb 7 2014, 05:50 PM)
Hello all, sorry for the late reply. I have decided to change the new tyre Ecopia EP200, 195/55R15 bought for RM175 for four tyres, RM700 in total + RM20 Nitro Gas + FOC Alignment.

I am sharing my experience based on Bridgestone Potenza Tyre, which comes originally with my Vios previously.

Of course, comparing both of the prices, these 2 tyres are definitely 2 very big different range of tyre. It is not as stable as Potenza, can't cut corner as well as Potenza. However, if you talk about quiet-ness, it is definitely much better. I am quite surprised with the noise reduction after changing this tyre. I felt more bumpy & uneven road with this tyre.

I felt it was really value for money, factoring in the price I get with the comfort level I get.

My friend who change as the same time with me, driving a Pesona, has very big difference when it comes to consumption of petrol. Previously he was getting 350KM per tank, now he can travel more than 400KM, which I think is a great improvement in Petrol Consumption. I'm not very sure what brand he used previously, he was saying cornering, driving in the rain is much better compare to his old tyre. He is one satisfied customer!

I drove my friend's Vios with Michelin XM2, who also just changed this recently. I felt that BS EP200 is slightly more quiet compared to XM2, whereas XM2 has the advantage in cornering and stability.
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post Jul 16 2014, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(tghan89 @ Feb 7 2014, 05:50 PM)
Hello all, sorry for the late reply. I have decided to change the new tyre Ecopia EP200, 195/55R15 bought for RM175 for four tyres, RM700 in total + RM20 Nitro Gas + FOC Alignment.

I am sharing my experience based on Bridgestone Potenza Tyre, which comes originally with my Vios previously.

Of course, comparing both of the prices, these 2 tyres are definitely 2 very big different range of tyre. It is not as stable as Potenza, can't cut corner as well as Potenza. However, if you talk about quiet-ness, it is definitely much better. I am quite surprised with the noise reduction after changing this tyre. I felt more bumpy & uneven road with this tyre.

I felt it was really value for money, factoring in the price I get with the comfort level I get.

My friend who change as the same time with me, driving a Pesona, has very big difference when it comes to consumption of petrol. Previously he was getting 350KM per tank, now he can travel more than 400KM, which I think is a great improvement in Petrol Consumption. I'm not very sure what brand he used previously, he was saying cornering, driving in the rain is much better compare to his old tyre. He is one satisfied customer!

I drove my friend's Vios with Michelin XM2, who also just changed this recently. I felt that BS EP200 is slightly more quiet compared to XM2, whereas XM2 has the advantage in cornering and stability.
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can you pm me where u got that price? Tq
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post Jul 24 2014, 01:23 PM

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just to share, i just changed two of my front tyre to this Bridgestone Ecopia EP200 (195/55/r15) on my waja for RM185 each in penang. don't forget to claim the rm30 petronas gift card if u change four of them.

reason to change:
-my previous GoodYear NCT 5 side face is tearing very badly. asked the mechanic, they say it is too soft to handle the harsh road

experience after change:
-feel the car is lighter
-when cornering, feel the tyre is not grippy enough on the ground, maybe im alrdy get used to the old tyre.




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post Jul 24 2014, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(ultimateBen @ Jul 24 2014, 01:23 PM)
just to share, i just changed two of my front tyre to this Bridgestone Ecopia EP200 (195/55/r15) on my waja for RM185 each in penang. don't forget to claim the rm30 petronas gift card if u change four of them.

reason to change:
-my previous GoodYear NCT 5 side face is tearing very badly. asked the mechanic, they say it is too soft to handle the harsh road

experience after change:
-feel the car is lighter
-when cornering, feel the tyre is not grippy enough on the ground, maybe im alrdy get used to the old tyre.
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-feel lighter should means the rolling resistance is lower than NCT5
-not grippy enough should means the cornering ability is lower than NCT5

pretty much what i expected from a ECO tyre, which fast driving / cornering is not its strong point.

how about noise level compared to NCT5??
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post Jul 24 2014, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Jul 24 2014, 02:16 PM)
-feel lighter should means the rolling resistance is lower than NCT5
-not grippy enough should means the cornering ability is lower than NCT5

pretty much what i expected from a ECO tyre, which fast driving / cornering is not its strong point.

how about noise level compared to NCT5??
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i dint notice the noise level of both of them, but i think both of them also not noisy. ep200 face design reduce the noise level and the softness of nct 5 probably also reduce the noise. overall i dint feel them noisy or maybe the waja engine noise is noisier then them.. lol biggrin.gif
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post Jul 24 2014, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Jul 24 2014, 02:16 PM)
-feel lighter should means the rolling resistance is lower than NCT5
-not grippy enough should means the cornering ability is lower than NCT5

pretty much what i expected from a ECO tyre, which fast driving / cornering is not its strong point.

how about noise level compared to NCT5??
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Try check the air pressure. Cos my after change they pump very high.

I feel the grip is definitely much better than NCT5.
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post Jul 24 2014, 09:25 PM

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just my humble review for ep200 after almost 1 month of usage and clocked about 1000km++ on it

1. noise is quite a surprise for me, nearly no tyre noise at all during <80km/h, but abit of tyre noise can be hear when going >80km/h on rough tar surface
2. comfort level wise, my car with full passenger (3 xxxl sized adult LOL) going from KL to Melaka and tried 140km/h cruise comfortably with no complaint from all my passenger
3. dry grip and wet grip is so-so but still ok for me
4. FC still under monitoring

Overall, a very good tyre but it's meant for aggressive driving... laugh.gif

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post Nov 3 2014, 02:00 PM

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Where is the best shop in klang valley for replace EP200?
Thank you
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post Nov 5 2014, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(OlehlehShare @ Nov 3 2014, 03:00 PM)
Where is the best shop in klang valley for replace EP200?
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bandar baru bangi, bandar baru selayang, sungai besi lakefield, kajang sungai chua
which are you prefer?

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post Nov 5 2014, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(OlehlehShare @ Nov 3 2014, 02:00 PM)
Where is the best shop in klang valley for replace EP200?
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Look for the Website on Bridgestone webpage.
The tyres listed usually cheaper than other shops as I survey more than 10 shops and their price listed below are cheaper.

http://www.bridgestonetyre.com.my/buy/deal...shop/kl?start=8


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post Nov 26 2014, 11:26 PM

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I was one of the person who searched for ep200 review before this.

Now i've changed 4 of my tyres to ep200 a month ago, 195/55/15.
Rm170 each, at klang area.

In terms of Quietness, Comfort, and Handling - I think they are all acceptable, as I bought my secondhand car that came with 4 different tyres (3 same 1 different). So I can't really compare them as my old tyres was seriously noisy, and I upgraded from 14'' to 15'' rim so can't really compare the comfort and handling as well.

Everything is good about this tyre in terms of the performance and price.

One thing that depends on ur luck is whether u get a really balance tyre.

I had a problem with the tyre tread, it causes ur car either slightly slanted to left or right, (even if ur alignment is perfectly done), normally foreman will exchange ur left and right tyre and the problem will be solved. Yet mine is still have the problem although my tyres were being changed a few times (exchange among front and rear left right).

As what the foreman told me, that every tyre is actually imbalance when they being produced out from the factory, so this is the common problem that we might encounter. I think this may be the reason that why this tyre can be that affordable, might because of the QC is low.

After all, this is still a good tyre so far, and guess there will just be very low percentage who being unlucky as me.

If you are looking for affordable with quiet and comfort, you can give it a shot. nod.gif
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post Jan 11 2015, 09:25 PM

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yesterday just changed tire to EP200, 195/50R15 RM145 per pcs...
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post Jan 11 2015, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(titan_kinyew @ Jan 11 2015, 09:25 PM)
yesterday just changed tire to EP200, 195/50R15 RM145 per pcs...
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hey bro pm pls where u change ur tire.. the price is cheap!
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post Jan 13 2015, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(jasonyau @ Jan 11 2015, 10:51 PM)
hey bro pm pls where u change ur tire.. the price is cheap!
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change at Hin Leong Tyre shop at Klang town...
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post Jan 14 2015, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(titan_kinyew @ Jan 13 2015, 09:33 PM)
change at Hin Leong Tyre shop at Klang town...
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thx for the info bro!
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post Jan 24 2015, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(titan_kinyew @ Jan 13 2015, 09:33 PM)
change at Hin Leong Tyre shop at Klang town...
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that's cheap! im goin for this next week
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post Jan 26 2015, 11:50 AM

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Anyone know the pricing for EP200 185/55R16 ?
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post Jan 30 2015, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(imgaylord @ Jan 3 2014, 07:13 PM)
Do take note that the thread at the corner of EP200 for my tire size (185/65R14) is a bit different from the advertisement.

I think I've shared enough of my experience.
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Exactly, its so different. I upload a pic later this weekend. And i wonder the difference will impair its effectiveness in aquaplaning.
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post Feb 2 2015, 02:15 AM

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Wow... I didn't know that this thread is still active to date.

Rubber market price dropped a lot recently and I heard it might drop even more this year. That's why you get roughly 20% - 30% discount compared to Q4 2013.

As a user of this tyre for almost 15 months and travelled at least 31k km (edit from 22k), I'll summarized my experience with this tyre below:
Pros:
1. Performing well when the tyres still have 100% to approx. 75% thread (edit from 70%).
2. Considered quiet even until now which left around 43% thread (edit from 38%). (Yes, I'm still using them).
3. Save a little petrol.
4. Acceptable stopping power, even in some of the low speed (around 40km/h) emergency brake.
5. I feel that the car has lower FC when driving on wet tar road (raining).
6. Aquaplaning is acceptable for my driving style.
7. Cornering is considered good for energy efficient tyres. (It was better than AR10 when it was new. Performance dropped as the thread wears off. AR10 was more consistent.)
8. During Nov 2013, it was only RM160 per piece.

Cons:
1. Hard compound and hard sidewall = less comfort on Malaysia's road with tons of hidden holes.
2. Need more effort to brake. This is expected from energy efficient tyre.
3. Make a lot of squeaking noise on cement road (parking lot).
4. Occasionally, skid a little on wet surface. (Eg: When stopping down to get parking ticket while entering parking lot. It was raining and the cement road was wet. It happened to me once.)
5. Getting more slippery now with around 38% thread left. Have to be more light footed in cornering during rain.
6. Save a little petrol. I was expecting it to save a lot more petrol to compensate the sacrifices in grip as well as other performance.

Before you ask me whether I'll consider to replace with similar tyre when it's time to change, the answer is "NO". First of all, I want to explore other tyres due to I haven't found a suitable one till today. Partly because tyre technology is advancing every year. Besides that, this is the first time I'm using energy efficient tyres and I realise that EP200 occasionally skid issue (although just a little bit) is causing me to cut away a lot of points.

I'm considering to change to the Pirelli P1, 185/60 R14 (not many choices for 14"). I was told that this tyre has very good aquaplaning, control and good thread wear. However, Pirelli tyres are well known for being more noisy.

This post has been edited by imgaylord: Feb 3 2015, 12:11 AM

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