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TStghan89
post Dec 30 2013, 07:46 PM, updated 12y ago

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Hey everyone ! I'm driving a Vios 1.5G, looking to change a 195/55R15 tyres.
At first my first choice is Michelin PS3, because this tyre has the most positive reviews among all.

My main criteria is comfort and quiet. My friend recommended me Bridgestone Ecopia EP200. It was mentioned that it's quality is able to compete with XM2, of course lose to PS3. But if calculate on price to quality, Bridgestone is more worth it. The price difference is around RM90 between EP200 and PS3.
I can't really find much review on this particular tyre, anyone can provide any advice?
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post Dec 30 2013, 09:14 PM

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Bridgestone Ecopia is the direct competitor to Michelin's XM2.

You shouldn't compare Ecopia against PS3..
TStghan89
post Dec 31 2013, 08:04 AM

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Yeah, both of the tyre are at very different price range.

So what if you compare with the XM2
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post Dec 31 2013, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(tghan89 @ Dec 31 2013, 08:04 AM)
Yeah, both of the tyre are at very different price range.

So what if you compare with the XM2
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I haven't tried Ecopia before. If I am correct, Ecopia could be slightly pricier.
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post Dec 31 2013, 08:01 PM

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there's really not much review on this tyre.
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TStghan89
post Jan 1 2014, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Dec 31 2013, 04:54 PM)
I haven't tried Ecopia before. If I am correct, Ecopia could be slightly pricier.
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Er..the quotation that i got from my friend is very different. Is actually my friend's friend shop.
for 195/55R15,
Ecopia EP200 is RM175
PS3 is around RM260. Both with Nitro Gas.

Alignment around RM30. That is for the pricing of 4 tyres.

QUOTE(efaceninja @ Dec 31 2013, 08:01 PM)
Thanks! Really not much review on this tyre. Too new ? Or too "cold" ?hahaha
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post Jan 1 2014, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(tghan89 @ Jan 1 2014, 10:29 AM)
Thanks! Really not much review on this tyre. Too new ? Or too "cold" ?hahaha
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too cold and new. and besides i think most ppl don't really care about eco tyres.
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post Jan 3 2014, 07:13 PM

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I was searching very hard online for the same review before I decided to change to ECOPIA EP200. What I found in the past was only 1 or 2 press reviews. However, I decided to give it a try since I'm satisfied with Turanza AR10 which BS claim EP200 is better than it in a few areas.

My car tyre size is 185/60R14. So, as you know, there isnt much choice for this size. The tires I've used so far on the same car, same rim are:
Dunlop SP10 > Goodyear NCT 5 > Yokohama A. Drive > BS Turanza AR10 > BS Ecopia EP200 (present)

So far, I've used these 2 pairs of tyres to travel from KL to Penang to KL to Singapore to KL, other than daily travel within the city. If you're interested, I could get the figure of distance travelled by AR10 and EP200 so far once I check the receipt.

Referring to the spec & claims by BS about EP200 & its improvement over AR10 (in certain areas but not all), they are TRUE... At least for now. In my experience, the tires really "assist" me to improve the FC due to lower rolling resistance. This is especially useful when I was approaching traffic light or travel in slow traffic. Compared to AR10, EP200 is able to travel "further" at "higher speed" while slowing down (accelerator released) towards a red light. With AR10, I had to hold my foot to the accelerator & could only release it when getting nearer to the traffic light. You see why I said "assist" now?

For stopping power, I feel that it performs better on wet road than on dry road while AR10 is equally good but at the opposite. So far no aqua planning issue.

For cornering, EP200 is only slightly better than AR10. Maybe because EP200 has harder sidewall or it's still new.

For comfort, both are equally quiet according to my pair of ears. I didnt test with any high tech equipment. However, I could feel bumpy & uneven road more than the softer AR10.

Besides that, I spent RM195 for each AR10 while RM160 for each EP200. I choose EP200 over XM2 because EP200 was cheaper by around RM20, nicer looking tread, 3 deep & wide lanes for aquaplanning instead of 2 (XM2), and lastly a XM2 user driving similar car told me the excitement of driving in the rain.

Do take note that the thread at the corner of EP200 for my tire size (185/65R14) is a bit different from the advertisement.

I think I've shared enough of my experience.
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post Jan 3 2014, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(imgaylord @ Jan 3 2014, 07:13 PM)
I was searching very hard online for the same review before I decided to change to ECOPIA EP200. What I found in the past was only 1 or 2 press reviews. However, I decided to give it a try since I'm satisfied with Turanza AR10 which BS claim EP200 is better than it in a few areas.

My car tyre size is 185/60R14. So, as you know, there isnt much choice for this size. The tires I've used so far on the same car, same rim are:
Dunlop SP10 > Goodyear NCT 5 > Yokohama A. Drive > BS Turanza AR10 > BS Ecopia EP200 (present)

So far, I've used these 2 pairs of tyres to travel from KL to Penang to KL to Singapore to KL, other than daily travel within the city. If you're interested, I could get the figure of distance travelled by AR10 and EP200 so far once I check the receipt.

Referring to the spec & claims by BS about EP200 & its improvement over AR10 (in certain areas but not all), they are TRUE... At least for now. In my experience, the tires really "assist" me to improve the FC due to lower rolling resistance. This is especially useful when I was approaching traffic light or travel in slow traffic. Compared to AR10, EP200 is able to travel "further" at "higher speed" while slowing down (accelerator released) towards a red light. With AR10, I had to hold my foot to the accelerator & could only release it when getting nearer to the traffic light. You see why I said "assist" now?

For stopping power, I feel that it performs better on wet road than on dry road while AR10 is equally good but at the opposite. So far no aqua planning issue.

For cornering, EP200 is only slightly better than AR10. Maybe because EP200 has harder sidewall or it's still new.

For comfort, both are equally quiet according to my pair of ears. I didnt test with any high tech equipment. However, I could feel bumpy & uneven road more than the softer AR10.

Besides that, I spent RM195 for each AR10 while RM160 for each EP200. I choose EP200 over XM2 because EP200 was cheaper by around RM20, nicer looking tread, 3 deep & wide lanes for aquaplanning instead of 2 (XM2), and lastly a XM2 user driving similar car told me the excitement of driving in the rain.

Do take note that the thread at the corner of EP200 for my tire size (185/65R14) is a bit different from the advertisement.

I think I've shared enough of my experience.
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Wow! Thanks for the wonderful review. I think this can be a reference for a lot of people. I think I'm just going to give a shot to buy the tyre.
I'm getting it on 15th this month, after I get my bonus ^^

After driving, will give my personal point of view on this tyre

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post Jan 3 2014, 10:36 PM

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first lengthy review on EP200!
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post Jan 7 2014, 11:04 PM

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Currently shopping for tyres,
and the saleperson mention this ECO 200 is a new spec. So, that why its cheap now.

At the same shop, XM2 is RM230 while ECO 200 is RM190.
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QUOTE(koinibler @ Jan 7 2014, 11:04 PM)
Currently shopping for tyres,
and the saleperson mention this ECO 200 is a new spec. So, that why its cheap now.

At the same shop, XM2 is RM230 while ECO 200 is RM190.
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For what size? What is the salesperson comment on XM2 and EP200?

New spec, so its cheap? Means when become old, then the price increase? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(nova_freak @ Jan 8 2014, 12:05 AM)
For what size? What is the salesperson comment on XM2 and EP200?

New spec, so its cheap? Means when become old, then the price increase?  hmm.gif
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Take it with a pinch of salt. Salesman can say anything.
Mention about kind of introduction into the market, that why its still cheap.
Its 195/55/R15.

Btw, for me sometimes can't really compare tyre based on price. Cheaper sometime better. Expensive just because its imported or brand.
efaceninja
post Jan 25 2014, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(tghan89 @ Jan 3 2014, 08:59 PM)
Wow!  Thanks for the wonderful review. I think this can be a reference for a lot of people. I think I'm just going to give a shot to buy the tyre.
I'm getting it on 15th this month, after I get my bonus ^^

After driving, will give my personal point of view on this tyre
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well, have you ]tghan89[/@ got the EP200? how is it??

This post has been edited by efaceninja: Jan 25 2014, 04:52 PM
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post Jan 26 2014, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Jan 25 2014, 12:37 AM)
well, have you ]tghan89[/@ got the EP200? how is it??
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post Jan 26 2014, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 26 2014, 11:06 AM)
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TStghan89
post Feb 7 2014, 05:50 PM

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Hello all, sorry for the late reply. I have decided to change the new tyre Ecopia EP200, 195/55R15 bought for RM175 for four tyres, RM700 in total + RM20 Nitro Gas + FOC Alignment.

I am sharing my experience based on Bridgestone Potenza Tyre, which comes originally with my Vios previously.

Of course, comparing both of the prices, these 2 tyres are definitely 2 very big different range of tyre. It is not as stable as Potenza, can't cut corner as well as Potenza. However, if you talk about quiet-ness, it is definitely much better. I am quite surprised with the noise reduction after changing this tyre. I felt more bumpy & uneven road with this tyre.

I felt it was really value for money, factoring in the price I get with the comfort level I get.

My friend who change as the same time with me, driving a Pesona, has very big difference when it comes to consumption of petrol. Previously he was getting 350KM per tank, now he can travel more than 400KM, which I think is a great improvement in Petrol Consumption. I'm not very sure what brand he used previously, he was saying cornering, driving in the rain is much better compare to his old tyre. He is one satisfied customer!

I drove my friend's Vios with Michelin XM2, who also just changed this recently. I felt that BS EP200 is slightly more quiet compared to XM2, whereas XM2 has the advantage in cornering and stability.
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QUOTE(tghan89 @ Feb 7 2014, 05:50 PM)
Hello all, sorry for the late reply. I have decided to change the new tyre Ecopia EP200, 195/55R15 bought for RM175 for four tyres, RM700 in total + RM20 Nitro Gas + FOC Alignment.

I am sharing my experience based on Bridgestone Potenza Tyre, which comes originally with my Vios previously.

Of course, comparing both of the prices, these 2 tyres are definitely 2 very big different range of tyre. It is not as stable as Potenza, can't cut corner as well as Potenza. However, if you talk about quiet-ness, it is definitely much better. I am quite surprised with the noise reduction after changing this tyre. I felt more bumpy & uneven road with this tyre.

I felt it was really value for money, factoring in the price I get with the comfort level I get.

My friend who change as the same time with me, driving a Pesona, has very big difference when it comes to consumption of petrol. Previously he was getting 350KM per tank, now he can travel more than 400KM, which I think is a great improvement in Petrol Consumption. I'm not very sure what brand he used previously, he was saying cornering, driving in the rain is much better compare to his old tyre. He is one satisfied customer!

I drove my friend's Vios with Michelin XM2, who also just changed this recently. I felt that BS EP200 is slightly more quiet compared to XM2, whereas XM2 has the advantage in cornering and stability.
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I PMed you, could you please tell me where you got this price?

thanks,

TStghan89
post Mar 20 2014, 02:46 PM

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Sure, please check out your PM

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HI all,

I too had recently (5 days ago) changed my Honda Jass all 4 new tyre Ecopia EP200, 195/55R15. Before this I'm using Falken ZIEX ZE912 195/50R15 ... After trying out the new EP200 ... I feel the whole new level of comfort in driving & quite surprised with the noise reduction of this new tyre as well. As fpr cornering, breaking & stability I personally give 4/5 star it apply on both wet & dry road.

Let for sure I'm 1 happy customer with this new tyre of mine.

Hope it help.

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