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post Dec 28 2013, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(fastreader @ Dec 28 2013, 08:53 PM)
y not u try to go to lenovo service center and seek their advise?..because it seems that this vendor (storm88) had no interest to help you after taking ur money...

there's 2 way around this, u can continue to find this storm88, and he gives u B_llsh_t excuses and reasons till in the end, u ended up going to service center OR u can ask storm88 where is the nearest service center and then juz go there.. smile.gif

on the part of refund, just for ur infor if u're not a malaysian, basically vendor/seller here seldom (if ever) would allow/entertain a refund...this is not australia...sad but true and we'll have to live with it. smile.gif

hope my 2 cents helps...if other sifus and gurus got any helpful input, kindly suggest. smile.gif notworthy.gif
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I agree with you. Seems TS you still have few days left, suggest you quickly go to nearest service center, hope this can help:

http://www.servicecenter.com.my/lenovo-mal...ice-centre-list

and this one:

http://support.lenovo.com/en_MY/research/h...ocID=MIGR-70506

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post Dec 28 2013, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Dec 28 2013, 10:01 PM)
Summoning storm88

Remember, 1 to 1 exchange is between the seller and the customer, NOT the supplier/distributor OKAY?

Sounds like this btw: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3054724
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Hi, that means within 7 days, USERS should take to their SELLERS and request 1-TO-1 EXCHANGE?

Even SELLERS ignore USERS, USERS still need to bring to them?

Also, for 1-TO-1 EXCHANGE to be valid, SELLERS need to be REGISTERED/AUTHORIZED or with SHOPS REGISTERED to the BRANDS or DISTRIBUTORS?

Besides, even USERS go to SERVICE CENTER, they will not do 1-TO-1 EXCHANGE, bcs this is under SELLERS' responsibility?

If that is the case, USERS are advised to PURCHASE from SELLERS with SHOPS REGISTERED with BRANDS?
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post Dec 28 2013, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Dec 28 2013, 10:39 PM)
Thing about 1 to 1 exchange is that the buyer can get an exchange on the spot with the seller (if there's stock) so that there is no hassle to go through the process of RMA. It is unfair for the buyer that if the product he/she purchased is faulty the next day (or within a short period of time like 7 days for example), the buyer has to be inconvenienced by the standard RMA process. The events of defective/faulty products is definitely a risk that has to be borne by the seller and they definitely know this very wel. However, the conditions that warrant a 1 to 1 exchange is still questionable and I guess it is up to the Terms and Conditions that is set by the seller.

I'm pretty sure the buyer can still go straight to the distributor to get it RMA-ed or highly likely exchanged but I guess it might not be as quick as 1 to 1 exchange with the seller.

Anyhow, I hope the seller keeps to his words and live up to his business ethics smile.gif

p/s: Yes, seller seems to be a Lenovo Gold Partner or something
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I see, i also suffered the RMA process, but not laptop is Logitech wireless mouse, I needed to go to Logitech website and did RMA process via Support. Then, someone in Taiwan office contacted me and ask me to perform some tests. Two options were given: Unifying receiver will be sent to you for FREE but need to bear CUSTOM COST or go to nearest local distributor.

I could have 1-to-1 exchange as it is still within warranty (3 yrs), however, the distributor I went had no stock, I need to wait for next week. I cant withstand another week of using touchpad so they offered me that I can pay special price or upgrade fee to purchase another Logitech mouse.

Eventually, I decided to upgrade to gaming mouse bcs my old wireless mouse malfunctioned twice within 1 yrs. First time I got a brand new 1-to-1 exchange, after 6 months, it was down again....really frustrated.....

Whole RMA process took 2 weeks which I think can be done within 1 week as I was not in selangor for few days
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post Dec 29 2013, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(storm88 @ Dec 29 2013, 10:30 AM)
herm

however it's out of the topic but let me enlighten you:

If there is a claimable* DOA case, things should goes to retailer if it is a component or service center for laptop. And it's not always 1:1 exchange, as need to depend on the situation.

For 1-1 Exchange Valid, as long as the goods are local distributed goods, then good to go

And remember, i don't know where you guys get the idea 1-1 EXCHANGE ALWAYS FROM RETAILER, but infact that applies to COMPONENT only. Even many friends of mine do think so.
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Thanks for explanation, hope can enlighten others as well smile.gif

FYI, I am not sure 1-1 EXCHANGE ALWAYS FROM RETAILER, I came across this statement yesterday, from MSI warranty:

1.2 Limited warranty for hardware
Replacement for a new product within seven days: If the Product incurs a breakdown within seven days after the date of you purchase, and the breakdown is not
caused by circumstances listed on Article 1.4, you are advised to bring the Product to the original store of purchase to ask for replacement for a new product, with
the complete original package and accessories attached by the invoice and warranty card.
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post Dec 29 2013, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(storm88 @ Dec 29 2013, 10:53 AM)
Hi bro
Thanks  for the input. For MSI 1:1 Exchange policy, it's also send back to service center.
However, for some certain of cases, we feel the pain of the customer when product failed to work in few days time after the unit been bought, so most of the time we ask customer to get the unit tested and confirmed failure at service center and we place a new unit to customer directly

I'll attach a proof tomorrow once i got reply from MSI malaysia about the 1-1, that WE- TECH ARMORY is not a SIMPLY TALK COMPANY.
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Ok man biggrin.gif , bcs this statement makes me confused for all day. Details can be referred to MSI warranty Malaysia website. Hope can hear your answer tomorrow.

Also, is it depend on SHOP POLICY whether they have the right to DECIDE 1-1 exchange? Later, SHOP will issue to BRAND if they have done 1-1 exchange?

In case, buyers bring faulty hardware laptop to SERVICE CENTER and after 7 days of purchase then they finally confirm hardware faulty, 1-1 exchange still valid?

Under this situation, buyers should wait for replacement from SERVICE CENTER or issue to SHOP for replacement?

Thanks man.
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post Dec 29 2013, 12:46 PM

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Suggest TS and storm88 face-to-face solving TS problem, hopefully, both of you satisfy with the outcome. smile.gif
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post Dec 30 2013, 12:56 PM

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TS, have you managed solve your problem? smile.gif
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post Dec 30 2013, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(rintintin @ Dec 30 2013, 02:59 PM)
waiting for storm88 to revert back to me. no comment for now. i will keep u guys updated. thanks.
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Hope you all can settle smile.gif and it is good for every consumer to know more about warranty service also.

QUOTE(storm88 @ Dec 30 2013, 01:23 PM)
update:
We never had any intention to run away to service customer, but for cosmetic claims' guideline, it was advised by Lenovo and we were just following it.

To get thing getting simplified, I've contacted TS directly and,

Since we don't have experience handling 1:1 replacement in cosmetic claims by 7 days Guarantee term, i've forwarded the case to Lenovo asking for advise and guidance.
Thank you
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Hi, "cosmetic" here means anything not related to "hardware" covered by LENOVO?

Therefore, TS case become "Accidential Damage" claim?
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post Dec 30 2013, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(profdra @ Dec 30 2013, 10:36 PM)
thanks. u can leave us alone now to deal with it
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"Hope this time will be a good experience for you so that you are aware when next time you want to buy something smile.gif" - DELETED


P/S: Oklah, if you think it is not contributed then I make a statement here. (Which I dont see anything wrong with my comment, anyway I respect your decision)

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post Dec 30 2013, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(profdra @ Dec 30 2013, 11:35 PM)
its a matter of principle
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Whatever it is, I dont want to spoil the purpose of this topic. Good luck with your claim. smile.gif
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post Jan 5 2014, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jan 5 2014, 07:34 PM)
That is very vague, please explain in more detail smile.gif
Harvey Norman?

NO.

Harvey Norman's 1 to 1 exchange policy for expensive items such as laptops is to be done with approval/inspection from the Service Centre. I got to know of this when I purchased my laptop from HN a few days ago..
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That means it all depend on SHOP's policy or terms/condition..... hmm.gif

So, consumer better ask clearly the shop policy for any purchase. smile.gif
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post Jan 7 2014, 03:08 PM

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I think he mentioned:

Akta Perlindungan Pengguna 1999 section 35(1)

in his thread

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post Jan 9 2014, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(lingloong @ Jan 9 2014, 02:15 PM)
But this forumer mention "can be returned in 30 days without condition as long as you don't like it."

Your's got major engine problem = not same situation

Refer bold part  smile.gif

And I need link/reference/proof to this fact. Don't come in bluffing & claiming your are a law student by simply posting nonsense  sweat.gif
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What I notice in US website, custom laptop and delivery that one, normally they will mention on their web page for "XX days return" something like that.

Honestly, I never see this happen in Malaysia, may be they have, but I think it will be agreement between seller and manufacturer with refering to local laws. Bcs different country have different consumer laws, eventually, manufacturers also need to refer to local laws for their warranty policy.

Hope that law student can give some solid, concrete example for laptop case.
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post Jan 16 2014, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(sawmania @ Jan 16 2014, 12:29 PM)
Lesson learnt, never step on the tail of a girl  tongue.gif

Anyway, for the 1 to 1 warranty exchange, it is not that easy that a company will change for you directly without confirming that problem. I had my experience with SenQ which I asked for a 1 to 1 exchange due to the screen defect of a phone, maybe it is only me found the screen have white spots at dark places and viewing dark background (they said is normal for oled screen) but it is freaking annoying. However they do not have a 1 to 1 exchange policy for expensive items, so I need to bring my item back to the SC myself or leave it to them for warranty claims.

Another experience is with Dell when I bought my laptop, I noticed there are some cosmetic defects of the laptop hinge in which one side is wider than the other side. But they decline for my warranty claim due to the gap is not so huge after seeing the pic I sent.

I am like you, after buying something especially it is expensive, we want it to be perfect, but sometimes, things arent the way it should be. I learn to accept the imperfection and after some time, it didnt get to me anymore.

If you dont want to walk in to the SC, try to walk in any laptop shops and compare the show unit with yours. I did that too until I was called paranoid by my wife.

Cheers icon_rolleyes.gif
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Your cases are interesting and I have same feeling with you too. I recently bought MSI GT70 and I noticed that my audio jack which are supposed to be "golden shine" if you look at promotion picture (dont know how they take so nice). First thing I noticed the golden color was dull and dark. It is gold plated but some gold color already faded, at first time I will be "perfection" like you as I want everything perfect bcs it is expensive. Later, I will think: "oklah, it is not a big deal, not until all gold faded then is ok, nvr mindlah."
Nothing is perfect as long as you can tolerate then fine. However, the "tolerance level" varies with everyone. So, eventually, it depends......

 

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