QUOTE(gks @ Apr 13 2017, 11:33 AM)
From their latest quarterly report 2016
Their cash RM17.6m
Inventories RM289m
Receiveables RM32m
Short term debt RM81m and payable is RM76m
Not an accountant but looking at the number... Thriven needs to sell their inventories and/or sell asset to raise cash. AFAIK.. the RM20m cash flow net raised wouldn't be sufficient to cover their short term obligation. I also notice the accumulates losses for FY2016 amounted to RM7.8m...
Anyway.. it wouldn't be a concern as these few millions is not a big deal for a public listed company.
For one.. I am glad that I cannot afford Lumi and I am sure you wouldn't lose your sleep over such matter. Another one matter, is this is the your natural way to express your view even in real person? If yes, I will not waste my time dealing and replying with people require an anger management.
That's why. If you are not an accountant, don't act like one. Don't know the figures then go and ask yr kawan-kawan accountant.
You see ah uncle. I'm a siudai only. Still learning from u also. But I can sleep very well at night la wey 😂😂😂
I was shitting in the toilet one day and hearsay only la.. developers have a few ways of recognising profits. As for Thriven, profit is only recognised upon completion of projects. Their maiden projects - Lumi Tropicana, Lumi Sec 13 and Enesta Kepong are no where near completion wey uncle. Even the blind one also know la!! So may I know which projects have they completed now? I should be losing sleep over some baseless farts from yourself to start worrying when there is a red flag in their NPAT when there is no projects completed yet?
You see ah.. one day.. siudai was eating chap fan.. then hearsay also la.. hearsay those ppl eating on the next table.. you see ah developers hor... They are obliged to pay 81mil for the first year but how are they suppose to reveal payment released from the bank based on completion basis in the balance sheet? You mean the proper adjustment from buyers money should be adjusted in the cash and balances column if the balance sheet so it tallies with the repayment to honour short term debts? WOW!! The chap fan accounting method also cannot be done like this la wey! That is why SETIAKON IS OM ROIDS TO COMPLETE STAGES BY STAGES SO THRIVEN CAN GET DUSBURSED TO HONOR THE DEBT. BUT THIS IS PROJECT FINANCING. THE PAYMENT RELEASED WILL GO DIRECTLY TO THE FUNDING BANK
I asked my Preschool math teacher this to reply u.. she said hor If you want to count their simple WCR before we go on a more complex one, (17+289+32)-(81+76)=181mil but they are a developer so this basic calculation doesn't fit here. But ah sifu GKS THE CASA BOSS.. Not only that they are not over funded yet using own reserves to undertake projects, they have a rigid TNW of 155mil against total debt of 160mil.
If you ask me if I can slee well at night or not don't worry la... I can sleep a lot better than u. Haha.. if u ask me if I am like that in real life or not. We can have coffee lo. For u to find out and for me to know
This post has been edited by mthc: Apr 13 2017, 12:12 PM