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SUSweyyt
post Jan 6 2014, 07:22 PM

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i feel that flare is actually better than ECM in bf4.
Both prevents from locking.

ECM does not guarantee deflect missile 100% of the time if u activate after ppl fired their missile. ECM should be used when ppl are locking u, which the ECM will prevent u from locking for several seconds. After several seconds, they can lock u again and fire and ur vulnerable at this time.

While flare, u activate after ppl firing their missile, it will guaranteed deflect the missile. It will used up their missile and people will have to wait their missile to replenish for some time before they can attack again.
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post Jan 6 2014, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Jan 6 2014, 07:18 PM)
Anyone's BF4 crashed lately?

I can't remember when the last client and server crash was for me. The game seems really stable now!
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like only once or twice a month??? no problem for me rclxm9.gif
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post Jan 6 2014, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(94brian @ Jan 6 2014, 07:34 PM)
like only once or twice a month??? no problem for me  rclxm9.gif
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well , i am asian player , usually at night 9pm - 11pm is my unlucky time , usually i get DC at that time , while the another time is really good .. the server had been fix and we get less DC nowadays rclxms.gif
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post Jan 6 2014, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(weyyt @ Jan 6 2014, 07:22 PM)
i feel that flare is actually better than ECM in bf4.
Both prevents from locking.

ECM does not guarantee deflect missile 100% of the time if u activate after ppl fired their missile. ECM should be used when ppl are locking u, which the ECM will prevent u from locking for several seconds. After several seconds, they can lock u again and fire and ur vulnerable at this time.

While flare, u activate after ppl firing their missile, it will guaranteed deflect the missile. It will used up their missile and people will have to wait their missile to replenish for some time before they can attack again.
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i think this is how ECM work which is different from flare. when someone locking you,you deploy ECM,and cuz ECM stay active longer than flare,and then you should fly into cover or fly low so your enemy can't lock on you again...personal i prefer ECM over flare biggrin.gif
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post Jan 6 2014, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(94brian @ Jan 6 2014, 07:38 PM)
i think this is how ECM work which is different from flare. when someone locking you,you deploy ECM,and cuz ECM stay active longer than flare,and then you should fly into cover or fly low so your enemy can't lock on you again...personal i prefer ECM over flare  biggrin.gif
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this is how ECM should be used. if will give you a couple more sec to kill and then get into cover. smart heli who fire heatseekers while fire 1 first to let u deploy your flares and fire the another one after flares are deployed.
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post Jan 6 2014, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(munlok30 @ Jan 6 2014, 07:36 PM)
well , i am asian player , usually at night 9pm - 11pm is my unlucky time , usually i get DC at that time , while the another time is really good .. the server had been fix and we get less DC nowadays  rclxms.gif
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hmmm,server or internet problem??? i mostly play at midnight biggrin.gif no lag no rubberband so far,only '1 shot killed' due to delay ;run run run run run pew dead; ,but hate the ''server's SPOILED last slot'' which wont able to join even there are still got free slot...
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post Jan 6 2014, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(lilsparda @ Jan 6 2014, 07:42 PM)
this is how ECM should be used. if will give you a couple more sec to kill and then get into cover. smart heli who fire heatseekers while fire 1 first to let u deploy your flares and fire the another one after flares are deployed.
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yes you are right! that's why i hate flares. but since i mostly play on midnight,i put my speaker in low volume so can't hardly hear the beep beep beep locking sound, sometimes just too late to deploy ECM biggrin.gif atleast that's just me la biggrin.gif the locking ring on the center of the HUD are too bright/white,can't see sometime also.
lilsparda
post Jan 6 2014, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(94brian @ Jan 6 2014, 07:50 PM)
yes you are right! that's why i hate flares. but since i mostly play on midnight,i put my speaker in low volume so can't hardly hear the beep beep beep locking sound, sometimes just too late to deploy ECM biggrin.gif atleast that's just me la biggrin.gif the locking ring on the center of the HUD are too bright/white,can't see sometime also.
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haha u need a headset. could always buy a audio headset which will work just fine. the white indicator near the HUD just shows the direction of being locked. cant tell if missle is fired or not
SUSweyyt
post Jan 6 2014, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(lilsparda @ Jan 6 2014, 07:42 PM)
this is how ECM should be used. if will give you a couple more sec to kill and then get into cover. smart heli who fire heatseekers while fire 1 first to let u deploy your flares and fire the another one after flares are deployed.
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1 missile hit is too low for any critical damage tho
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post Jan 6 2014, 08:47 PM

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post Jan 6 2014, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(lilsparda @ Jan 6 2014, 03:19 PM)
correct. when missle is fired. you will hear ti ti ti ti ti ti sound. ecm need to be activated when they are locking on. once fired u activate ecm too late. ecm is to disable enemy to lock on to you on a period of time. flare is to mislead the missle to attack the flare instead of your vehicle.
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actually 2 ways to use ecm.
if in jet of cos just fly away, and activate ecm before u get locked on.
if in heli, u can activate ecm before locked on or when missile just fire already, as long as u stay in the ecm cloud the missile wont hit u.

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post Jan 6 2014, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Jan 6 2014, 08:47 PM)
These Singapore Airlines passengers got a free trip to fish in Baku:

http://news.asiaone.com/news/relax/sq-flig...ding-azerbaijan
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lucky no one was hurt.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Jan 6 2014, 10:06 PM)
actually 2 ways to use ecm.
if in jet of cos just fly away, and activate ecm before u get locked on.
if in heli, u can activate ecm before locked on or when missile just fire already, as long as u stay in the ecm cloud the missile wont hit u.
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thats good news. what happen to the missle then? diverted?
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post Jan 6 2014, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(lilsparda @ Jan 6 2014, 10:20 PM)
lucky no one was hurt.
thats good news. what happen to the missle then? diverted?
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can find tutorials on youtube.
this one from BF3, but still applies to BF4.

the mistake ppl usually do when activate ECM after missile fired is they move out of the cloud / duck for cover / fly away...so missile can still track...its actually safer to stay within the cloud.
the video also not that good since they moved out of the cloud but at least they still almost beside it...but u get the idea.


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post Jan 6 2014, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jan 6 2014, 10:30 PM)
can find tutorials on youtube.
this one from BF3, but still applies to BF4.

the mistake ppl usually do when activate ECM after missile fired is they move out of the cloud / duck for cover / fly away...so missile can still track...its actually safer to stay within the cloud.
the video also not that good since they moved out of the cloud but at they still almost beside it...but u get the idea.

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very good video indeed. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

did they nerfed the ecm jammer cooldown in bf4?
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post Jan 6 2014, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(lilsparda @ Jan 6 2014, 10:35 PM)
very good video indeed.  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

did they nerfed the ecm jammer cooldown in bf4?
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anything ppl complain about in BF4 will eventually be nerfed cos dice likes to bend over backwards.
but ecm jammer / flares all have always taken eternity to reload since BF4 start...
compared to BF3 its basically double to triple the time.

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post Jan 6 2014, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jan 6 2014, 10:37 PM)
anything ppl complain about in BF4 will eventually be nerfed cos dice likes to bend over backwards.
but ecm jammer / flares all have always taken eternity to reload since BF4 start...
compared to BF3 its basically double to triple the time.
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yeah i remember seeing more than 10 sec cd on the screen after deploying ecm.
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post Jan 6 2014, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(lilsparda @ Jan 6 2014, 10:42 PM)
yeah i remember seeing more than 10 sec cd on the screen after deploying ecm.
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actually its 20secs.
BF3 10secs only.


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post Jan 6 2014, 10:58 PM

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Why ping back to 100 for SG?
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post Jan 6 2014, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(devillightning1 @ Jan 6 2014, 10:58 PM)
Why ping back to 100 for SG?
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experiencing 40+ as usual.
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post Jan 6 2014, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(devillightning1 @ Jan 6 2014, 10:58 PM)
Why ping back to 100 for SG?
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same..this morning was ok...now 100 + ping

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