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sonerin
post Jul 12 2016, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(jamesleetech @ Jul 12 2016, 07:04 PM)
I have auditioned it at Acoustique Amcorp Mall and it has a wider sound stage with better wider bass and more detailed clarity in the upper high frequency range. You can go to Acoustique Systems to listen as the ELAC FS 409 is already there for demo. It has a different character covering a wider range of the audio spectrum compared to the more relaxed and not aggressive nature of MA.

For the ELAC FS 409 at 28 to 50,000 Hz range, I found that it does perform admirably with better low bass which are tight enough without emphasizing it too much. Whereas the MA Gold GX200 is not as powerful in bass which is also tight but somehow lacking in emphasis and strength. This is to be expected because GX200 has 35 to 60,000 Hz frequency range. On paper, even the MA Platinum PL200 only ranged at 35Hz - 100kHz with only better high frequency compared to GX200. Obviously, paper technical specs should only be used as a rough guide because there are many other factors that determine each person's perceived audio quality.

I usually let my own ears decide for me and I have listened to the ELAC FS 409 and loved it BUT, unfortunately I cannot go to Singapore to audition the MA Platinum PL 200 there. Anyway, the ELAC FS 409 at RM 29800 is within my budget range. The Platinum PL200 is around RM 41000 (SGD 14K) which is over my budget preference. The RM 10K saved can go towards a pair of Atmos Speakers with a 50 watt (8 ohms) Stereo Parasound Power Amp.
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Definitely let your ear decide. After all, it is personal preference more than anything else. Maybe I am used to not so much bass as my B&W CM8 is low on bass. When I listen to MA gold last time, the bass was really good. In fact the silver 8 already some good bass. Looks like the elac is even better. Will see if I will drop by amcorp to have a listen
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post Jul 12 2016, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 12 2016, 07:02 PM)
Yes it's possible. But you will have to find projectors with short throw range.
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Thanks. Any example?
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post Jul 12 2016, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(Kelv @ Jul 12 2016, 05:53 PM)
Is it possible to setup a HT room with projector in a 12ftx12ft room? There is also a big 8ftx8ft sliding door, which I think have to use black out curtain.
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The first thing you need to decide is where to place the projector away from the screen area, AND how big is the screen area you have on your wall to use.

If you decide to place the projector around 2.5 metres away from the screen wall, then look for a projector with specification that have a Throw Range distance that covers that 2.5 metre distance. For example, the BenQ HT2050 projector has a Throw Range of 3.7m to to 4.8m so you cannot place this projector at 2.5 metres away from the screen because sharp focus image cannot be obtained... by moving the projector to 4 metres away from the screen wall then a sharp focused image can be obtained.

A Long-throw projector requires it to be placed quite far away from the screen. A Short-Throw one has range nearer to screen and an Ultra-short Throw one can be placed very near to the screen. When you use an Ultra-short Throw projector, do make sure that the projection light coverage is wide enough to spread to the entire width of the screen.

Because of the size of your room, I think you should look for Short-Throw and Ultra-short Throw projectors which stays within the distance that you want and make sure the light coverage is wide enough for your screen size.

If the maximum width for your screen is around 8ft, then the screen size should be around 80inch (diagonally) or 39inch high x 69inch wide for Home Theater 16:9 ratio.

https://www.engadget.com/2006/05/23/how-to-...n-home-theater/

In a completely darkened room, a projector with a lower Ansi Lumen should be enough to light the screen with proper brightness and black levels. Ansi lumen of 1500 should be bright enough to cover a screen size of 45inch x 80 inch in an almost darkened room. When the room have lots of ambient light from the room lights or windows, then a much higher Lumen is needed. Usually the higher the Lumens, the more expensive the projector cost.

http://www.projectorpeople.com/resources/lumen-guide.asp


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post Jul 12 2016, 08:13 PM

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^Well explained by jamesleetech

Another site to check out the metrics for projectors is - http://www.projectorcentral.com/projection...culator-pro.cfm

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post Jul 12 2016, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 12 2016, 08:13 PM)
^Well explained by jamesleetech

Another site to check out the metrics for projectors is - http://www.projectorcentral.com/projection...culator-pro.cfm
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Thanks. Just trying to help but its difficult to choose which brand for some one who intends to use a projector because its just like choosing a LED/LCD HDTV... so many factors and so many brands that affect our choice.

For projectors, its even more complicated to choose. The Lamp bulb have a life span which lasts only for a few thousand hours and need to be replaced, maybe after a few years. Manufacturers usually state the lifespan for "Full Power" and for "Eco Power (Reduced Power Saving)". The higher the power (Ansi Lumens) the shorter the lifespan. For example... XX Brand : Full Power last from 2000 to 3000 hours and Eco Low Power last from 4000-5000 hours. Such lifespan should only be used as a rough guide only because its not really accurate.
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QUOTE(Kelv @ Jul 12 2016, 07:42 PM)
Thanks. Any example?
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A square room is a bad idea for HT. Is ok for the screen but the sound will be a mess
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post Jul 12 2016, 10:21 PM

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Thanks. You guys really helpful. Will do more research base on that.
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post Jul 12 2016, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jul 12 2016, 09:36 PM)
A square room is a bad idea for HT. Is ok for the screen but the sound will be a mess
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Will acoustic treatment solve the mess? Or any other solution?
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QUOTE(Kelv @ Jul 12 2016, 10:25 PM)
Will acoustic treatment solve the mess? Or any other solution?
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Only to an extent. But you will eventually run into balancing between 'good' reflections and 'bad' ones.

A good HT room is usually constructed in an asymmetrical measurement. So basically a rectangle room is preferred.


Your solutions are few.
For one, you can "cut" the square shape room into a rectangle one, but that will mean making the room even smaller than it already is. If you can live with that, then some furniture moving and small renovation will do.

The other thing you can do is basically sit "near field". But this defeats the whole purpose of a "Home Theater", especially since you want a projector.
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post Jul 13 2016, 06:31 AM

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QUOTE(Kelv @ Jul 12 2016, 10:25 PM)
Will acoustic treatment solve the mess? Or any other solution?
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Extend the room.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 12 2016, 11:13 PM)
Only to an extent. But you will eventually run into balancing between 'good' reflections and 'bad' ones.

A good HT room is usually constructed in an asymmetrical measurement. So basically a rectangle room is preferred.
Your solutions are few.
For one, you can "cut" the square shape room into a rectangle one, but that will mean making the room even smaller than it already is. If you can live with that, then some furniture moving and small renovation will do.

The other thing you can do is basically sit "near field". But this defeats the whole purpose of a "Home Theater", especially since you want a projector.
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jul 13 2016, 06:31 AM)
Extend the room.
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I measure the room again, it is actually 12.3ft x 10.5ft. Smaller than I presume, but not that "square".
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post Jul 13 2016, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(Kelv @ Jul 13 2016, 07:31 AM)
I measure the room again, it is actually 12.3ft x 10.5ft. Smaller than I presume, but not that "square".
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This is not too bad.
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QUOTE(jamesleetech @ Jul 11 2016, 05:26 PM)
Addition...
Oh... almost forgot. If you do test with the plugs, do NOT insert too much into the port because it will be difficult to remove the plug if it "drops" inside the "hole".
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used unit. good guessing.
sound is satisfy but i suspect not burn in yet.

i got the port plug included, testing tonite.
will be careful wont jam the sponge deep
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QUOTE(jamesleetech @ Jul 12 2016, 05:12 PM)
From the photo file name you have shown here, its Audiovisio AV8815 Digital Karaoke HiFi Amplifier and I could not find any info on this Amp model using Google Search.

From your photo, I cannot identify all the amp buttons that are on this amp so without any more detail info on this amp's functions, I will not be able to find out the reason... and at the most, I cannot even make any guesses too. Unfortunately you do not have the remote and the remote on the photo is too small to see too.

By using the "Audiovisio" as the detailed search name, I suspect that this amp was made by a local Malaysian company, Audio Phonar Electronics Sdn. Bhd. However, I am not sure about this. Mmm... I suspect that its not made in Germany but I may be wrong.

Below is the link for a different model...
http://www.audiophonar.com/index.php?optio...=property&id=80Link to AudioVisio Home Amp

Here is another AudioVisio Digital Karaoke Amp posted in Mudah.my at...
http://www.mudah.my/Amplifier+AudioVisio+D...e+-46093466.htm
... and unfortunately the buttons identification are also blur.

You can contact Audiophonar at their website "http://www.audiophonar.com" IF you wish to find out more. Hehe... I will let you do all the work yourself to find out whether they sold this model or not AND what is the reason that caused the 5 channel output.

Your amp is a Karaoke HiFi unit so I do believe that there are functions on the amp which changes the Vocal Keys to slow and fast AND also can turn a Stereo source to Surround 5 channels. Although I am guessing, this is what I believe so a press of a button or a turn of a control knob on your amp can change this.

Probably you can take a clear photo of the front face of your amp to show the printed words for all the knobs and buttons which look similar to this below...
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I know that I did not help much because of lack of any detailed info. This is as far as I can do to help and only giving my guesses.
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Thanks for the reply. Never expected you to actually search in detail for the AVR model number.

Probably the amp is already discontinued by the company and it's a low end model so I doubt it would have any of the functions that you have mentioned above.

Anyway, here are the photos of the front panel.

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post Jul 13 2016, 01:43 PM

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Sharing my setup smile.gif

TV Model : LG 65EC9700 OLED
Amplifier : Denon X-6200
Front Speaker : KEF R500 + Atlantic Technology 44DA Atmos addon Module
Center Speaker : KEF R600c
Surround Speaker : Acoustic Energy Aego T
Subwoofer : SVS PC13 Ultra

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post Jul 13 2016, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(dexth @ Jul 13 2016, 01:43 PM)
Sharing my setup smile.gif

TV Model : LG 65EC9700 OLED
Amplifier : Denon X-6200
Front Speaker : KEF R500 + Atlantic Technology 44DA Atmos addon Module
Center Speaker : KEF R600c
Surround Speaker : Acoustic Energy Aego T
Subwoofer : SVS PC13 Ultra

user posted image
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Wow many different brands. Won't the sound mismatch
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post Jul 13 2016, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jul 13 2016, 02:12 PM)
Wow many different brands. Won't the sound mismatch
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Fronts & center must match. Surround and Atmos module not as important. I have tried using KEF LS50 as surround, but wasted la smile.gif
SVS sub integration is not an issue too.

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post Jul 13 2016, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(dexth @ Jul 13 2016, 02:21 PM)
Fronts & center must match. Surround and Atmos module not as important. I have tried using KEF LS50 as surround, but wasted la smile.gif
SVS sub integration is not an issue too.
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Agree is not a must to be the same but the more matching the better the surround sound will be
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QUOTE(dexth @ Jul 13 2016, 01:43 PM)
Sharing my setup smile.gif

TV Model : LG 65EC9700 OLED
Amplifier : Denon X-6200
Front Speaker : KEF R500 + Atlantic Technology 44DA Atmos addon Module
Center Speaker : KEF R600c
Surround Speaker : Acoustic Energy Aego T
Subwoofer : SVS PC13 Ultra

user posted image
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nice setup!!
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QUOTE(bad2928 @ Jul 13 2016, 02:29 PM)
nice setup!!
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thanks smile.gif

And here's my pc room setup. My wish one day there will be a 60" ultrawide OLED...haha.

TV Model : LG 34UC97 / LG 60" FHD Plasma (backup)
Amplifier : Denon AVR-1912
Front Speaker : KEF LS50
Center Speaker : KEF LS50
Surround Speaker : Acoustic Energy Aego T
Subwoofer : Rythmik F12

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