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 Plan to buy a NEW/USED car?(V2), ASK HERE for recommendation.

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post Aug 17 2014, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(stereobiru @ Aug 17 2014, 10:04 AM)
owh..thanks..it will need a lot of money i think..need to think twice lor..hehe
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i am going to assume you can afford 40-50k car so here goes:

2010 Ford Focus - this model depreciates alot so you're getting a really good car for a really low price, spare parts might be on the pricier side because this is a C-segment conti not a B-segment ckd japanese brand car (vios/city) but normal maintenance is cheap.

2010 nissan latio - looks boring and bland but is cheap to maintain and major parts are quite affordable for its segment.

else u might want to consider the new p2 axia
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post Aug 18 2014, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(choong @ Aug 18 2014, 09:15 AM)
Hello Everyone,

My friend is selling his Mercedez

E230 Avantgarde V6 W211
Year 2009
Mileage: 212,000km

How much is a good price to buy?

Thank you.
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mileage quite high.

just for comparison a similar used 2009 merc e230 v6 avantgarde v6 w211 is rm155k while a recon 2009 merc e220 cdi w212 is rm175k which you can buy with new car interest rates and diesel fuel savings means beyond 500km per tank but if you're not into diesels then a petrol version would cost you in the range of a brand new CLA if it is recon like this recon 2009 merc e250 cgi w212 it is a 1800cc engine with turbo (CGI) the e230 is also around the same price range plus minus a rm5000.
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post Aug 19 2014, 03:24 AM

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QUOTE(MarketingDude @ Aug 18 2014, 07:47 PM)
1. Brand :
2. Budget : Under 90k for sedan and under 100k for pick up truck/ SUV
3. New/Used/Unreg : new
4. Specs : -
5. Transmission : auto prefered
6. NA or FI : fi
7. Type :
8. Remarks : looking for good fc, maintenance and comfort. Sometimes have to carry heavy stuff. (Not often)

thanks sifus
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mazda pickup.
cheaper than the ford.
better spec than the ford.
same platform and some parts with the ford.
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post Aug 22 2014, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(choong @ Aug 19 2014, 08:45 AM)
Thank you!
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QUOTE(engdau @ Aug 19 2014, 05:08 PM)
Sifu Zenix,

Seeking your best advise. My friend wanted to sell his 2003 Mazda 6 (1st generation). It is 1.8cc hatchback model, imported from UK with current mileage at 130K. It is currently under 2nd ownership. Wanted to let go at RM 23K since this model is manual transmission.

Would you think it is a good buy? Anything should I pay attention to?  icon_question.gif

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okay smithers....

for that kinda money and being old so no loan you're going to have to pay cash i don't think it is a good deal, older mazda's parts are hard to come by or not cheap, 130k mileage isn't alot for its age but i don't think it is a superb buy, if you want a manual fun car so little money and won't depreciate anymore (maybe even apreciate) do consider these....

2000 fiat coupe 2.0 turbo - should be in classic car category soon so buy it before it gets that status and it will get expensive, right now its cheap because it is old and cannot be loaned, still will arise some issues getting parts on the cheap or available on the spot (same problems as the mazda) there are specialty workshops that can always get those for you so joining the club would be a good idea......anyway for the same amount of money and problems i'd rather be driving around in an italian sports car than an old japanese sedan.

but end of the day if you're looking for a daily drive, cheap to maintain and reliable you should look for something like 2004 nissan sentra you can still loan it if you want to lower your burden or pay outright cash, though being 10 years old you need to spend abit to refurbish the car abit even the basics like new tires, replace all oils (engine, brakes, etc), replace all filters (engine, aircond), service aircond, etc. would cost at least rm800-1000 depending on what you choose.

2001 proton satria gti is abit of the above two, sports car looks and performance with reliability and cheap parts but the stigma of owning a local brand car.

so....three headaches for you icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(champu @ Aug 21 2014, 02:04 PM)
Hi I've been researching on BMW cars especially their E46 but am constantly fearful that if buying a <10 yr old car would probably set me btwn 30-40k.

Due to current credit limit, I am limited with a budget abt 60-70k, would appreciate any current owners and sifu's to give their inputs;

I'm currently considering the following;

http://www.mudah.my/Bmw+e46+b+-29195530.htm

to be used for daily short drive within KL area, with occasional travel outside to Cyberjaya and outstation i.e. JB, Ipoh once or twice in a quarter
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i know bmw's are more sporty and exciting but if you're in a budget pinch but want a german luxury mobile you should consider mercedes as parts are cheaper overall compared to with bmw/audi/vw and other conti maybe you can consider something like 2005 merc c200 cheaper to maintain than a bmw but don't expect it to be cheap like a kancil....think camry/accord/teana/mazda6.

one bmw you can also consider about which isn't too old is 2005 bmw 118 it isn't the 3-series but you get almost a similar experience as the model you linked but this one is newer and better since it is one generation newer.

QUOTE(beyond86 @ Aug 21 2014, 02:36 PM)
1. Brand : Any but not local
2. Budget : RM80k below
3. New/Used/Unreg : New
4. Specs : Full
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI :
7. Type : sedan
8. Remarks : need a car can tahan lasak as sometime need to go site
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2014 mazda bt50 - you can check if they still clearing stock for their old model, it is a good bargain pickup, as others in this range you only get the low-rider/2wd/manual version which is sad version.

2014 nissan x-gear - at the budget set, you won't be able to get a new c-segment car, this is probably the only car within your budget where you can get x-segment size and engine capacity, you got a roof rack so you can store extra stuff, this version of the livina only has seating for 5 but a larger boot. Only 1600cc engine but powerful enough for its body but don't expect very powerful engine response....just nippy enough to scoot around.

2014 vw polo sedan - isn't a c-segment but almost as spacious as one, it is larger than most toyota vios and honda city. no dsg and turbo, just a normal mpi 1600cc engine (mpi = dvvt/vvti/vtec) and 6 speed automatic slush box, old tech but more durable.

2011 toyota altis 1.8g - a few years of depreciation suddenly makes this car an attractive buy if you would consider a used one, cheap to maintain and repair, 1800cc engine and spacious interior good for long distance drives. A used nissan sylphy would be slightly cheaper but looks more ugly, i think the altis would be a better choice.


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post Aug 23 2014, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(engdau @ Aug 22 2014, 10:30 AM)
Thanks a lot, Zenix.  rclxms.gif  You are so helper and knowledgeable.  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Aug 22 2014, 08:43 PM)
Hello sifus, I need some advice on purchasing my first car.

1. Brand: Any, local or not
2. Budget: Maximum of 40k
3. New/Used/Unreg: Used
4. Specs: Not sure what to put here, but I suppose Full or Standard
5. Transmission: Auto, no manual
6. NA or FI: NA
7. Type: Small (like the size of a Viva or Myvi) or Hatchback. I am bad at parking even standard-sized sedans because of a spatial awareness problem.
8. Remarks: I was actually looking at getting a second-hand Satria Neo CPS (high end model) year 2010/2011, but I would like to hear the opinion of the sifus here about that car, or maybe any other kind of car that you would recommend over that one. Generally however, I am looking at getting something reliable and hassle-free for everyday use, and maybe a bit sporty if I ever decide to follow my brother (he is getting a brand new Manual Satria Neo CPS) on trips to Ulu Yam.

Thank you very much.
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first off the batt i wouldn't really recommend a viva, since i don't think it has enough safety features, axia is too new i haven't really checked it out so the verdict isn't there yet.

myvi is a safe bet, though you might feel it is a boring one.

neo is a good choice, get the highest spec vs age for the budget you have.

i can't think of anything better coz u want reliable and hassle free.......swift/jazz too expensive/old not a great idea.
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post Aug 24 2014, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(milotic @ Aug 23 2014, 12:24 AM)
Advice please...
1. Brand : any except china's car
2. Budget : RM70k max
3. New/Used/Unreg : new
4. Specs : airbags, abs, ebd, no 3 pots
5. Transmission : auto
6. NA or FI :
7. Type : hatchback /supermini
8. Remarks : quite interested in s spec jazz, swift n myvi.... the myvi is so mainstream while the jazz is overpriced... looking for a car with good fuel efficiency (works as a teacher in kampung area) and power enough to travel to the north ...
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myvi is the easy choice. fuel consumption good, looks decent but boring, cheap to maintain, cheap to buy.

jazz power, spec, looks, etc it has everything but it is quite pricey.

swift is decent too but since you say you're in kampung area better not risk it because there might not be a good service center near you, at least honda/perodua is more common.

QUOTE(availyboy @ Aug 24 2014, 09:33 AM)
1. Mercedes / Toyota
2. RM100k ~ RM130k
3. NEW / USED
5. Any
6. NA
7. Sedan
8. Can recommend me ... any nice car that worth the price? Seeing 2nd online for mercedes C-Class seems okay as well, But which one really worth it? New Altis? ... Honda? Or ... just get 2nd mercedes and fix it up.
How about maintenance n stuff?
Thanks! Hope to get your recommendations from you sifus cheers
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2009 merc c180 cgi - why not consider a recon unit? it is within your price range, plus you get to buy it with new car interest rates, being a recon not used also the car is in excellent condition, as recon units of this kinda cars the traders usually bring in are show units or fleet cars with very low mileage and few issues. Used units are abit dangerous coz well malaysian style is people don't wanna pay for expensive maintenance only will sell the car.

Or you can go the BMW route 2005 bmw 325 or 2007 bmw 320 both are the same price the differentiation is the age and spec. The choice is yours but if you buy the 2005 bmw 325 it is going to be a keeper as you won't be able to easily sell it once you finish your loan (in 3/5/7 years) because then the car would be too old in the eyes of the banks, yes you can get used units are cheaper price and of course you'll be hit by a huge depreciation since the recon and used car prices is about 10k gap now but then once BMW's depreciate to below 100k they don't depreciate that rapidly anymore. A 325 is a good car and keeping it long term isn't a bad idea as German car makers supply parts until > 20 years the cars life.

2013 suzuki kizashi - there are many 2012/2013 models with huge discounts being sold now (they are still new) this is a good car but there is a few problems with it. The first problem is the badge, suzuki isn't known for making d-segment cars so of course there is a reputation issue. The second problem is the size, it is a compact d-segment meaning it is only slightly bigger than the largest c-segment cars like altis/civic, but then again compact d-segment are usually for more sporty cars like the euro accord so don't think it is bad, the chassis is slightly shorter so it doesn't have big over hangs like the camry so it corners better and handles high speeds better. That is the only problem since this car has a powerful engine and is very very well equipped for 105k it is as well equipped as top end mazda 6 (which is of course better equipped than camry/accord as they're more into affordable volume game than giving great equipment levels and superb package).
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QUOTE(ChinHong86 @ Aug 24 2014, 02:20 PM)
1. anything
2. as cheap as possible, below 30k if can
3. NEW / USED
5. Any
6. NA
7. any
8. i already have a roadster which serves as my daily car, planning to get a more practical daily car, with super cheap maintenance, and easy to maintain. i travel quite often, around 3000km per month. was looking at proton savvy manual, as the price is very interesting, less than rm10k, and considerably quite new, 2006
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i think the new cars from perodua and proton will be a game changer.
more into this era with small cars but not just being cheap, they are practical and with enough safety equipment.
maybe you should wait.

as for right now, the safest and cheap i'd recommend you is a myvi.
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post Aug 25 2014, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(milotic @ Aug 24 2014, 09:33 PM)
which one u prefer....
myvi se 1.5 rm57k or jazz s rm72k? interest? i heard imported car has lower interest, is it true? what do u think about the new proton compact car?
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yes, local car interest rates usually higher.

QUOTE(Angel01 @ Aug 25 2014, 01:10 PM)
Any recommendations for me?
Budget : <80k.
No proton/perodua.
Interested to get honda city s+, but E seems better but its 2-3k out of budget
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wait until year end sales then, 2-3k isn't that much so surely can get discount.
don't bother getting the old model even if they offer with big discount.
depreciation will be high and the gearbox isn't that great that's why it isn't frugal.

QUOTE(availyboy @ Aug 25 2014, 01:33 PM)
Hmm, Thanks for the links bro, I feel like wanna sell back to the market or as in 2nd pricing would be quite important for me as well. Haha, somehow how do i Identify a recon car and a USED car btw?
Because I see those cars unreg, then some reg, then used etc etc
Cheers i'm already using a MYVI now, planning to move on to a better one .. so yea ^^  thumbup.gif
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if resale is important then BMW or Merc is the way to go, the other German brands don't hold their value.
no need to see if it is recon it is usually unreg, so new car interest rates and can choose number plate.
if already got number plate it cannot be recon and of course used car interest rates really sucks balls.

QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Aug 25 2014, 05:34 PM)
Alright. Looks like Neo CPS it is then.
Thanks for the input zenix. I appreciate it a lot.
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there is a batch of neo that has the lotus bodykit and accessories but is automatic, see if you can get one of those brows.gif
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post Aug 27 2014, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(xdd1987 @ Aug 26 2014, 10:01 AM)
Hi, any comment about this car? becoz im staying at johor
i realize that the car in KL is much cheaper than johor
do u recommend i buy this car at KL or just buy at johor(batu pahat)

1. Brand = honda accord
2. Budget. = 60k+
3. Used
4. Specs = new facelift version 06
5. Transmission = Manual
6. NA
7. Type = i not sure about this, can refer this link
http://www.carlist.my/used-cars/1679300/20...a-facelift.html
8. Remarks = NA

thx , appreciated for ur reply smile.gif
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best to buy locally as got any issues you can always reach them easier and faster than coming all the way to kl, if the car cannot be driven then towing cost would be a bomb too.

you stated you want a manual car, but the accord is always an automatic, so which you prefer?

so generally you're looking to get a d-segment sedan at a low purchase price and low maintenance cost?
or you prefer other body types like SUV?

QUOTE(GeekieLoner @ Aug 26 2014, 11:26 AM)
Currently driving a 9 year old Myvi.
Planning to get a car before the GST implementation.
Unable to decide on a new or used car.

If New Car
1. Brand : Honda City 2014
2. Budget : RM90k
3. New/Used/Unreg : New
4. Specs : V Spec
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI :  NA
7. Type : Sedan
8. Remarks : Too expensive. Slightly above budget. Buying a new car could save some maintenance.

If Used Car
1. Brand : Honda Jazz Hybrid/Honda City/Honda Insight/Toyota Prius C
2. Budget : Below RM75k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used (2011 and above)
4. Specs : -
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI :  NA
7. Type : -
8. Remarks : Used car will be cheaper upfront but higher interest and maintenance cost.

Undecided on what car should I get.
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u r looking for a hatch or sedan?
i think driving around in a b-segment myvi for 9 years.
time to upgrade to at least a c-segment?

2011 Toyota Altis 1.8 - this generation of altis is sad because it gets trumped by the civic in terms of performance, handling and looks but it is still a c-segment toyota so you can expect good build quality and affordable maintenance. If you don't speed around much the performance/handling bit isn't going to be an issue as it is still a good spacious car to drive in town and outstation.

QUOTE(availyboy @ Aug 26 2014, 01:57 PM)
Hmmm, BMW is a good option as well right?
When it comes to maintenance cost and such, which one will be around that area?
Or should I just get a new car.
Hmm seems interesting though, the links you have shared for me, I got my eye quite on that BMW, but as you said it will depreciate quite fast, until it reached a stable area.
What do you suggest?
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which bmw i linked above tickles your fancy?
for example the 2007 recon 320 @ rm105k, a 2007 used 320 @ rm85k.
so once you purchase the car it will be instantly worth 85k because it is used no longer unreg/recon.
so that is about 19% depreciation you get hit once you buy the car.
but from then on out the depreciation would be very low year by year because bmw 3 series are always in demand.
so it won't depreciate as quick as a 5-series or 1-series.

cheapest alternative? the recon merc, depreciates slow and parts are cheaper.

not much options for a new car with a 100k ++ budget except for the kizashi, even most c-segments would be out of reach but you can always consider the 2014 renault fluence a french design and spec with japanese engine/gearbox so you get best of both world cheap maintenance and a nice car, you gotta check the website for their deals but the launching promo is 5years warranty and 3 years free maintenance if i am not mistaken.
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QUOTE(xdd1987 @ Aug 28 2014, 09:12 AM)
thx for the reply
so sry i stated the wrong transmission , it is automatic
yeap , u got my point hehe
i kinda like accord actually , but the new facelift version will better than the old version one right ?
any SUV that u recommended?
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2006 honda accord 2.0 @ 46k

2006 honda accord 2.4 @ 49k

many people have said the 2000cc is a good entry level car but it is slightly underpowered which is why most people after warranty over sell the car, if you don't mind the bit more of roadtax money get the 2400cc version, equipment better and more powerful, fuel economy and maintenance is about the same.

i guess this is fine, but the facelift will have an exterior benefit of pinching parts from the new "perdana" so maintenance and parts will be even cheaper but you gotta live with people calling your accord a perdana laugh.gif

QUOTE(GeekieLoner @ Aug 28 2014, 03:49 PM)
I've been driving the myvi for roughly 6 years. But car is 9 years old.
Sedan or hatch would also take under consideration.
C-segment would be way above my budget.
Mostly city drive but my workplace is roughly 25km away from home.
So a good fuel consumption car would be much appreciated.
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the altis not to your liking?

QUOTE(mdnurman @ Aug 29 2014, 07:10 PM)
which one is a better buy (and which model S/E/V)?
Honda Jazz 2014 vs Honda City 2014

Going to work daily Seremban-Cheras
Currently driving Gen2 CPS (manual)

TQ
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of the two the city is better at long distance.
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QUOTE(tekplyrX @ Aug 30 2014, 05:53 PM)
Hello everyone, please i need some advice..

1. any brand except proton/perodua.
2. rm30k.
3. Used.
4. Any
5. Automatic
6. NA
7. Sedan
8. must be a model newer than 2004

Currently looking at either chevrolet optra or skoda octavia.. Any problems with either of these cars I should be careful of? Any advise would be welcome. Thanks
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okay lets say you're going to buy cash.
your budget is 30k.
so here is a car that is about 20-25k with leftover for repairs.

2005 ford lynx rs - when you pay cash for something and set aside a war chest to repair it, it better be a car that is worth it, right? I think this car is quite worth it. Back in the day this is a sought after hot sedan, probably the fastest in its class and automatic too. It was around this time when manufacturers started to officially sell hot versions of their boring gray boxes. One of it's key rivals was the Civic ES which originally came with the 1.7 horror of an engine then got a nice 2.0 engine (which is very similar to the one in the Civic FD), after this names like Wald, Brabus, AMG, etc. became more common place in our market. Even by today's standards it is a handsome looking car and usually hot versions and sports cars age quite well so perhaps it might even gain value in the future (who knows?). Anyway, like most Ford's it has good handling and decent power output only problem is it is an auto 4 speeder, nobody ever said it was fuel economical....well probably they enjoy driving it fast so didn't worry much about fuel economy. Parts availability and prices could be on the pricey side as Ford parts are usually more expensive than your usual Honda/Toyota parts plus the age/rarity of this model it could be abit too expensive to upkeep if it is a high mileage daily workhorse......but for office workers that just commute to work and back then have some fun on the weekends it should be fine.

2006 skoda octavia 1.8 turbo - skoda's are amazingly cheap this model would be similar to an A4/Jetta of the same year but it is so so cheap to buy, a high recommendation from me. While the car above is more on the sporty performance look, this one has a luxury look with good performance. Because of its rarity and conti look usually when going to hotel or office lobby's you'll be offered to park at the lobby as it has that prestigious look about it.....but rarity is a problem when getting parts? Well, most engine parts you can get the common one from either audi or vw spare part shops....if you need skoda specific stuff like door handles, bumpers, headlamps, etc. you can always pop over to singapore to buy and install then drive it back here without incurring tax and delivery charges but if you really want cheap then get the oem parts from china. Yes, it is abit of work to get parts for this car but normal stuff like fuel filters, air filters, etc. are quite common in the market so normal maintenance is quite inexpensive.

so for cars like the two above they require abit more commitment from you for them to be in 100% fit, but they're cars where you'll be happy to own for a long time.

NEXT this is the other option assuming you got 1000-5000 for repairs but want to lower commitment so taking a 5 year loan for a 30k car.

2007 ford focus 1.8 sedan - this is a good car but the problems are parts are expensive so since this car is now 7 years old i expect many current first hand owners would be trading them in for something newer than replacing worn out parts, the worn out parts and decay really depends on how the owner kept the car, if it is mostly superficial stuff like paint work, accessories and rubbers being dented, missing or perish that is quite cheap to fix or ignore as they aren't important. As long as the engine, aircon and gearbox is fine (and no major accidents) then it is a good buy. Seeing that it is an old car already by the time you finish the loan it is going to be even more worthless so best to look for something which you can keep a long time to make it worth it. I think this car a good option, c-segment sedan with a good feature/spec/accessories level (even got rear seats aircond like some expensive d-segment cars). If you're living in the the city this would be a good choice as you can get parts easily but if you're in more backwater towns better not as parts availability is unknown and prices could be high. Though, if you're good with ebay you can import alot of cheap OEM stuff from UK/China where this car is popular.

then this is the last option assuming you got almost no money for repairs but want a cheap car that is low maintenance and would be quite lasting.

2005 mit lancer - nothing special about this car, just something inexpensive to buy and maintain. Shares some common parts with proton but generally mitsu parts aren't expensive.

2007 nissan sentra 1.8 - most people say the 1.6 is underpowered and not frugal enough, so i recommend the 1.8 which is better on both accounts but this 1.8 isn't on the same level as a Civic FD 1.8 that would still smoke you on the highway and return better fuel mileage because it is a newer engine with better technology......so why am i recommending this? well it is the best you can probably get for your budget if you're thinking of just buying not repairing until something breaks down. Old tech engine and gearbox is very hardy so they'll last but of course i fully recommend doing a service (even if out of schedule) after you buy the car just to keep the oils and filters fresh.

2006 honda city 1.5 i-dsi - usually the i-dsi models are cheaper but if you can get the vtec one for the same price it is a bargain, well what is the difference between them? Well, nothing much. Power output more or less the same. Frugality or less the same. Parts and maintenance more or less the same. Just that the accessories are better on the vtec model and of course the interior color, while the i-dsi is usually boring brown the vtec is always black/grey with a more sportier accent to it.

If you're thinking about the Toyota alternative...well....the Vios isn't at this price range for anything as young as 2006, so the youngest is 2005.....so depends on what you want, for me I'd go for the better fuel consumption and younger City but then there are always Toyota fans.
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QUOTE(tekplyrX @ Aug 31 2014, 03:38 AM)
Bro thanks ALOT for the advice!! Thanks again  rclxms.gif  notworthy.gif  thumbup.gif will keep u updated of my decision!!
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u r welcome.

QUOTE(jackbanner @ Aug 31 2014, 05:41 AM)
Very good and nice suggestion!
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QUOTE(H1nk @ Aug 31 2014, 09:07 PM)
Brand: Toyota Vios Mazda 2 or Nissan Latio
Budget:<50k
New/used/reg:used
Specs:prefer full spec
Transmission:auto
Type:4 seats
Remarks: I am driving this car to my college, so prefer sporty and low maintenance cost. Thx in advance
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a sporty and low maintenance car would be something like a satria neo.

but if between the 3 you've chosen here goes...

vios - you'll be branded as an ah beng ricer if you make it look sporty without performance parts, you'll be branded a loser if you keep it stock, you'll be branded money waster if you modify it with performance parts.....you can't win.

latio - the hatchback with the nismo bodykit is decent looking enough, but it doesn't have much power, so you'll lose on the street cred game against other college mates.

mazda 2 - nobody modifies or have performance parts for this car, sure lose.

if you want something that would impress your friends then anything with 4 doors and low maintenance isn't going to cut it, if you want something sensible and low maintenance with 4 doors i think the latio and vios is good but don't go racing or think it is a match for anything out of its league. Latio would be better because it is bigger and more spacious than the vios.

QUOTE(tlts @ Aug 31 2014, 09:59 PM)
hi veli seldom come here...just wanna ask
proton wira 1.5 (M) GLI 2006 1owner how much can get for this car?
and
if bank aution it roughly how much?
ty in advance
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2006 Proton Wira SE 1.5 (M) is around 13-15k average.

QUOTE(l3iTi @ Sep 1 2014, 04:57 PM)
Hi,

What if in below situation?

I'm Kancil owner with 55% NCB
I would like to purchase a new CRV without selling Kancil
Can I enjoy 55% NCB for both car A and Car B?
If the answer is no,
Then can I transfer Kancil ownership to my wife, then get her a new car insurance for the Kancil.
While I transfer my existing 55% NCB to the new CRV ?
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i think both scenario's cannot work sweat.gif
but second scenario maybe workable but u need to ask the salesman.
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QUOTE(availyboy @ Sep 2 2014, 12:15 PM)
Seems like I'll go with the C200 then, recond would always be the best option, I did test drive the BMW and C200 ..... i'll be picking the C200 with CGI, they did say it's better than kompressor .. what do u think in this matter? .... around this range is quite comfortable i guess. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(H1nk @ Sep 3 2014, 12:07 AM)
Thx zenix! At the beginning, I was thinking bout getting a coupe perhaps a convertible car bcuz it looks cool when u can actually jump in ur car xD without opening the door haha unfortunately my budget only allows me to get Peugeot 206 convertible or Toyota celica but after I found dat a lot of problems experienced by the owners of Peugeot then I gave up the thought of getting a Peugeot as it has a high maintenance cost TT. Although Toyota celica is a nice car to drive and showing off XD but the price is quite high for a 14y old car even in 14' many of the dealers and owners still selling at 49k haizzz so I completely gave up the thought of getting a coupe...  Sifu zenix any advices on ford Fiesta and Honda jazz. Thx in advance
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Jazz - the ones in your budget is GD, it is going to be 10 years old soon I don't really recommend it. Although looks still great with powerful yet economical engine. Alot of parts begin to fail around this point until most owners will just trade-in to get a new car instead of repairing. The famous CVT issue would be a big big item to replace, now the gearbox jerking when changing gears might not be a CVT issue maybe flywheel issue but that replacement would at least cost you RM800. The newer GE which just has been phased out by the latest model which is the GK would be getting into your price zone soon, newer but not always better, it is notorious for higher fuel consumption and lazy gearbox with not much oomph.

Celica - too old and cannot loan.

206CC - too expensive to maintain for you, i think.

Smart ForTwo - is in your price range and is a funky 2 seater, age is catching up on it and maintenance is a question mark.

Hyundai Coupe - the ones before tiburon around 2003-2005 would be in your range, but maintenance is a question mark.

QUOTE(andytan1984 @ Sep 3 2014, 12:16 AM)
dear sifus, pls advice which best used car in this budget..

1. Brand : not proton
2. Budget : RM20k-40k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : any
5. Transmission : any
6. NA or FI : -
7. Type : -
8. Remarks : my wira rosak ady, total lost hope at proton...
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You should be able to get 2009/2010 Nissan Latio/Sentra with that budget.

Both would be C-segment but Latio is newer technology so more spacious and fuel efficient.
Sedan got 1.8 engine option but the hatch looks better.

QUOTE(weigie @ Sep 3 2014, 04:43 PM)
1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : RM80k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : C or D segment
5. Transmission : auto
6. NA or FI : -
7. Type : -
8. Remarks : looking for an upgrade especially comfortable during long distance travelling.
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2009 honda accord 2.0 - this one which will become the new perdana, expect maintenance to be dirt cheap if the perdana goes into full production later but of course people will think you driving a proton doh.gif

2007 Audi A4 1.8 TFSI - audi is in the same family as vw and skoda, but usually they will be the one to roll out the technology first and is better engineered overall. At this time while VW and Skoda still only having FSI engines Audi has already got the TSFI (turbo FSI) which later all the cars in the family would have. It has a 7 speed DSG but this one doesn't break like the one in the Golf/Jetta, you can do some further research online but this one should be superior. Maintenance wise it isn't that much more to maintain than any VW/Audi/Skoda cars but then of course that would depend on where you go as the parts are mostly swappable between the brands but if you goto an Audi service center you'll definately going to get chopped. Find a good specialist workshop outside that handles these brands most often cheaper by alot.

2008 BMW 320 - but then if you're going to be paying top dollar for a conti and have to deal with headaches of premium price for parts (or effort to shop around for cheaper parts to maintain it) then why not go for something with more prestige? So then of course I am talking about BMW's....it doesn't have the fun punch of a turbo but the 320's engine is no slouch if you can find a 323/325 it is even better but of course roadtax more expensive. This one will hold it's value better than the Audi when you resale it later which is a good/bad thing coz by then the new owner would need to buy it cash from you coz cars over 10 years cannot be loaned.

2009 Merc C180 - this is a kompressor model so it has a supercharger which in theory is more powerful but it is more for moving the bulk of this car, it is a heavy car loaded with features, accessories, safety and luxury.....ain't something to be speeding around with like a BMW (but of course it is faster than most cars). Merc's usually are cheaper to maintain and parts easier to source than most conti's so if you want a conti on the cheap a merc is the way to go, but of course not as exciting to look at.

You might also find 2007 Passat (older ones, which doesn't look as sleek as the current ones) within your budget but of course same issues of owning conti require TLC. Effort on your side to find stockist with cheap parts and a workshop that won't chop you, or don't care about the cost just use original and send to service center. Passat IMHO less prestige than a 3-series for the same amount of headache. You might also find Skoda's the cheapest of the lot some even below 20k but although you can get it serviced here as engine and gearbox parts no issue since same group as VW/Audi but body parts like headlamps, bumpers, etc. aren't so easily found. Many drive their cars to Singapore to replace stuff but that is if the car is in running condition.












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QUOTE(jianshen @ Sep 5 2014, 01:43 AM)
1. Brand : Anything continental
2. Budget : Around 250k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Doesn't matter
4. Specs : Full Spec
5. Transmission : Automatic
6. NA or FI :  FI
7. Type : 2/4 seater
8. Remarks : Car meant for a driver young 20s
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QUOTE(H1nk @ Sep 6 2014, 11:14 AM)
Hi zenix, sorry to bother u agn but I just got my budget increased to 55k so do u think mazda rx8 is a good choice?
Based on its maintenance cost and durability.
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RX8 - not really, maintenance would kill you. i've a few friends owning 2008 or 2009 models, they're having a hard time selling it. one friend totally rebuilt the engine, another had to change the whole gearbox. abit of a glass car sweat.gif

Here are a few options if your parents are rich fags and wouldn't mind the higher maintenance. 2007 MG Rover TF 1.8 which is a rare beaute but parts aren't as cheap and easily available as say your common Toyota Vios. 2007 Merc CLK200 is a nice luxurious car but maintaining this one would be in the ballpark price range of maintaining a Toyota Camry. 2008 BMW 316 Coupe a quirky little car but also a rare gem, engine wise not much issues to maintain it - just as any other 3-series but don't get into any accident coz those body panels would be hard to replace and i don't think many chop shops would have them so get into any accident with this car which requires alot of parts replacements is most likely going to keep this car in the workshop for a month or more and the parts would probably be flying in from some other country (hopefully not germany coz its going to be expensive).

Most realistic would be a nice low mileage Latio hatchback with bodykit like this.
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QUOTE(jianshen @ Sep 7 2014, 10:46 AM)
Hi zenix, thanks for your suggestion. However, mind explaining how you came to such a conclusion?
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in that range there are a few options i was kinda drained after explaining something so i left yours out...

VW Golf GTI - no doubt about its performance but you're not going to get the prestige of owning a Merc/Audi/BMW with this car eventhough it is faster than those cars, and it being a hatchback the luggage space is sacrificed, not really a do everything car more focus on performance.

VW Passat - the CKD passat is a good choice, it ticks all the right boxes.....performance, looks, price, practicality....however VW's will always fall short of BMW/Merc/Audi in terms of prestige so although its much better than anything from Japan prestige wise it ain't going to shock/impress people who are used to better. So if you need a car that also needs to impress people this isn't the one for you.

BMW 320i F30 - this is also CKD now that is why it is now probably the cheapest 320 in many years and very popular too because it does everything well, it has a good powerful engine and BMW now has turbo so those people whom wanted a turbo car but BMW always only offered NA would buy one too, it has good aggressive looks not boring uncle like a merc c200, practicality being a sedan, and of course the prestige of being a BMW. however the bad points are the RFT which are expensive and also probably too many 320's on the road so exclusivity is reduced.

BMW 316i F30 - a 30-40k cheaper option is a sub 200k budget entry point for BMW 3-series, there is only one trim level and you get almost everything the same as the 320 but the engine and some attention to detail will show the difference. If your budget is sub 200k and you want a BMW this is a good option, although the smaller 1.6 turbo might be a little lacking if you compare it with some cheaper options but you cannot have it all so performance takes abit of a hit but it is still a very fast car, it is a bmw and it is a sedan....so its a decent choice.

Merc C200 - the current model should be in your reach but when the new one comes it is going to be more expensive, very similar to the 320 in terms of practicality, size, prestige and performance the big differentiation is the looks....while the 320 looks youthful and aggressively sporty.....the c200 is matured and elegant......handling is also different as this is focus more on comfort. This one also doesn't require expensive RFT tires BMW uses.

Merc CLA - in a nutshell it is a baby s-class in terms of looks but is actually an A200 with a boot. Trying to make the A200 more practical with a boot but its flashy design does cost it somewhat in the space dept.....its roof line looks good but ain't going to be comfortable for tall adults. Good design, prestige, performance for its class but kinda small and not spacious enough so you feel as though you're driving around in a luxurious Persona at times. Did I also mention the waiting period for this car is nearly 1 year?

Merc A200 - same problems as the CLA but this is one is also minus a sedan boot being a hatchback.


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QUOTE(berdorki @ Sep 7 2014, 11:49 PM)
May I know why mitsubishi mirage seems so unpopular? It looks pretty good and fuel efficient...
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not too sure, market forces i guess.
probably size wise.
malaysians typically don't care about efficiency.
they like big cars with small engines coz they think small engine is fuel saving coz how much petrol can a 1.3 engine burn?

that is why donkey's like avanza and its ilk are thriving.

QUOTE(mamachye30 @ Sep 8 2014, 03:12 PM)
hey peeps has anyone here ever  test drive or drive Golf b4? I do agree with Zenix comment here about  VW Passat cause my fren has test drive it before and also test  drive the golf and he is  crazy abt the car performance. I myself also plan to test drive this to experience it myself.
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golf gti or tsi?

QUOTE(xaxier83 @ Sep 8 2014, 05:43 PM)
1. Brand : Audi, Mini, BMW,
2. Budget : RM120000-140000
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : any
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : -
7. Type : Sedan or coupe also fine at this point
8. Remarks: I hope sifus here can provide me some recommendation. Do tell me if it is worth to buy those brand at 2nd hand? I am worried about the spare parts and servicing. I was actually thinking of getting an Audi A4 (2009 model) but not sure if it is a good idea. Please do provide me some guidance here
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why not consider a recon?

2010 mini cooper s - is within your price range and isn't that much older than the new one although you're buying the pre-facelifted model, the key is you're buying the top spec model at about the same price as buying a Toyota Altis G-spec.
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QUOTE(xaxier83 @ Sep 9 2014, 12:43 AM)
Hmm, yea, the Mini sounds good but A4 seem to be a good deal as well. Any comment about the 1.8 2009 Audi A4? In term of maintenance and any known issue about this car?
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for that money i wont buy used, i will buy recon.
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QUOTE(chan1485 @ Sep 9 2014, 12:54 PM)
Hi Zenix,

1. Brand : Toyota Wish, Honda Stream
1a. Year: 2009, 2010
2. Budget : RM100000-110000
3. New/Used/Unreg : Unreg
4. Specs : Any
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : -
7. Type : MPV
8. Remarks: Maintenance? Which one better? Please do provide me some guidance here
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2014 Ssangyong Stavic @ 115k - in your search you might come across this model and you might be wondering if it is any good, off the bat i'm going to tell you i don't know alot about these cars, the previous generation of Ssangyong cars were mostly rebadged mercedes with tech which is one/two generation(s) older than what mercedes have on the market. Nowadays, they do alot more in-house development like the engine which is supposedly designed and manufactured in-house. It is a real value buy considering you get a ton of accessories and it is an 11 seater. Resale value and maintenance wise this is still an unknown factor as this car is still very new but if more people buy it because of its great value then maintenance and resale value in the long run will be quite good -- this was true for Naza Citra which wasn't a great car but it really sold in numbers and with the economics of scale parts and maintenance became much easier and cheaper.

Toyota Wish - you're going to have to choose wisely. A recon Wish would be round 80-120k depending on spec but the engine is always going to be a 1800cc lump, while recon 2000cc variants are available they start at 120k always. You'll be able to find a used 2000cc which can be a local unit from UMW or ex-recon for under 100k, however I never recommend such a high purchase price for any used car it is never going to be worth it so a near new 1800cc recon would be the best option for your budget. Recon cars would usually get 6months to a year of warranty from the seller, the most famous recon/import car seller is of course Naza but they're usually more expensive. Usually, good recon/import car dealers have all their cars sitting under canopy's so the sun doesn't destroy the interior -- don't buy from those dealers with 1-4 recon cars and the cars are baking under the sun. One of the biggest differenciator between the Wish and the Stream is the driving dynamics and setup, while the Wish feels more like a MPV with higher ride height, suspension is on the comfort side and comes with rear aircond vents -- the Stream feels more like a wagon with rear seats.

Stream - Similar headache about the recon vs local/used. About the driving dynamics again the stream was developed from a sedan car platform thus it rides lower and handles better if you do not want to sacrifice d-segment sedan-like handling -- however the trade-off is you ride lower so visibility is of course similar like a sedan not high like an MPV and suspension is a tad harder when you drive it on uneven roads which makes you think it can corner really well but then later find out that its suspension feels hard but it goes spaghetti like the Wish when you gun down a corner. If you're a young couple with kids and do not want an "old uncle ministry of transport" written on your face this is the car for you since the car is lower kids can get in and out easier.....but usually for older people they bump their heads going into cars of such height which is why people that ferry alot of old folks have higher MPV's like Alphard/Serena.

2011 Mitsu Pajero Sports - this is an idea, it is second hand but it is a very new and low mileage top spec car. The latest in turbo technology is VGT (variable geometry turbo) which in a nutshell means you do not need two turbo's (one for low speed, another for top end) as VGT allows it to be variable to the engine conditions and thus delivers power with minimal turbo lag and more fuel efficient -- this tech is on the newest Porsche's but surprisingly it is also available on a humble pickup but only this top spec version. Interior wise it is a simple 7 seater setup nothing really fancy like MPV's with folding and swiveling seats. It rides higher because of the 4 wheel drive, this can be a benefit if you're not a city slicker or your job requires you to go places with imperfect roads like site visits, etc. So it is a good bargain.





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QUOTE(my5412 @ Sep 10 2014, 09:29 AM)
Hi Sifu,

Please advise me which car should i buy

1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : RM80,000-100,000
3. New/Used/Unreg : New
4. Specs : Any
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : -
7. Type : sedan/suv (as long good for family car)
8. Remarks: 1. Good resale value after 3-5 years.
                  2. Maintenance, fuel consumption.

Thank you in advance.  smile.gif
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There are better cars for that budget but if maintenance cost, fuel consumption and resale value are priorities (which is understandable in our economic climate) i'd suggest either Honda Jazz/Honda City/Toyota Vios the spec is up to you any would be good but although top spec easier to sell later on don't hope that the value would be very high usually when it comes to the used car market the difference between top spec and basic spec of the same car is a 4-8k difference eventhough purchase price there is a 5-15k difference.

Under 100k if I am not mistaken if you're going for new and Japanese the only choice is the Toyota Rush, which is basically a better accessoried 4WD toyota avanza, and unfortunately this model doesn't really hold its value that well, unlike most other Toyota/Honda except the hybrid ones.

QUOTE(kabyss87 @ Sep 10 2014, 04:14 PM)
1. Brand : Anything except P1 and P2
2. Budget : <RM 45,000
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used (B segment and above)
4. Specs : Any
5. Transmission : Manual
6. NA or FI :  -
7. Type : preferable hatchback variant
8. Remarks : Adequate power with good stock handling.. for used car, anything >Yr 2008 preferable.
Currently looking @ Latio hatch.. but only sedan has manual variant (correct me if i'm wrong)
Normal suzuki swift all auto = swift sport over budget...
Jazz - all manual
Fiesta = Only the 1.4LX version is manual..
the only sedan i might consider is inspira 1.8mt or latio sedan 1.8mt...
Is there any other manual hatch back that i've missed? XD please advice  rclxms.gif
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Latio - Yes. Latio Sedan has 3 variants. Latio Sedan 1.6 manual, 1.6 auto and 1.8 auto. So if you're going for manual only option then you need to choose the sedan. Nissan cars aren't known for good handling so for a spirited driver (which i think you are since you're looking for a manual) you'll need to upgrade the shocks/springs or both at some point.

Swift - Yes. Swift Sport is over your budget, and it is a good car nobody is going to sell it quickly as is the case for most performance models, but then it comes on the market you gotta be quick to buy it if not others would grab it. Don't be fooled, a real SS is manual with 1.6 engine, anything else is just a normal swift with bodykit.

Fiesta - This is abit of a shot in the dark for me as my only experience with Fiesta's are the automatics, can't say for sure the 1.4 with manual combo is any good, though I would say it is one of the better looking options within your budget.

Jazz - Manual units are rare and usually snap up pretty quickly. Click on this link it is a 2003 Honda Jazz 1.4 Manual, the 1.4 units are mostly from Japan as ASEAN production facilities in Thailand all start with 1.5 engines, there are also a few Jazz converted to manuals since across the north border manual Vios/Jazz/City are common.

You didn't miss anything for the budget given minus P1 & P2. Below are my suggestions for a fun car which isn't exactly to your desired spec but within budget.

2007 Nissan Sentra 1.8 Manual - do search around for other ads if you want cheaper/younger as this was the first one that pop-up from my search. Anyways, if you want fun and power you've gotta always go for the biggest stock engine capacity in this case the 1.8 lump, and with less power loss via manual gearbox it is quite a hoot to drive around, though as I've said before Nissan's aren't great in the handling department so after market shocks/springs would be needed if you really like to rempit at genting, other than that it should suffice for most usages. Cheap to maintain and good reliability too. Of course if you're not taking a loan and have 45k cash then do buy a Silvia/Skyline brows.gif

2011 Ford Focus Ghia 2.0 Auto - when looking at the focus got a few options lets go with the best bang for your buck a sedan which isn't too old (2011 car), C-segment, with a nice 2.0 lump but automatic within your price range. A real nice option if you want a good handling car which isn't too old and isn't a local one but sedan and automatic. 2005 Ford Focus 1.8 Manual is available but it is quite old, almost 10 year old car.

QUOTE(kaimanpro @ Sep 11 2014, 02:27 AM)
Hi. I am confused whether to get a new persona sv, Used preve 11/12 or used honda city 2009 . Prefer auto.  Budget would be 50k+  is there any problem in terms of engine/suspension etc from the three car above.  I heard campro engine is not Good but I am not Sure.
Remarks:driving alone normally. Family of five thrice or twice per year for trip.
Pls advice. Thanks
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Persona would be okay, nothing special.

Preve would be good too but I feel it is not worth the expensive used car interest rates.

09 City not really a very fuel efficient car but other than that is a good car.

If you're not a car guy i recommend not to go for anything wild and be content with either a nissan latio/honda city/toyota vios.....although cars like skoda octavia/ford focus/etc. are available for your price bracket and are great value buys for what they are.....maintenance might be a killer if you don't know how to shop around for a good workshop/stockist for parts as the usual service center route is an expensive one.

QUOTE(maxhoop89 @ Sep 11 2014, 08:01 AM)
Hi Sifu, 
Please advise me which car should i buy 
1. Brand : Any
2. Budget :less than RM100k
3. New/Used/Unreg : New
4. Specs : full spec
5. Transmission : -
6. NA or FI : -
7. Type :prefer hatchback ...sedan also not bad
8. Remarks: wanna upgrade from myvi 1.0...recently looks at almera and fiesta...Any recommend for others car??
Thank you in advance. 
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2012 Suzuki Kizashi - if you think you can spend abit above your budget then this is something i really would wanna recommend you, it is brand new but stock clearance model so you still get new car loan benefits and warranty but at a heavily subsidized price. Looks good, performance good, accessories and safety top-notch (you'll only find such a package on higher spec Camry/Accord). It is a rare model so the looks surely a killer but also a bad thing because it is not so popular so parts that are unique to this car would be hard to find outside of suzuki's service center but of course for normal things like tire change, basic maintenance, etc. outside workshops can handle it but for serious accidents you've gotta bring it back to the suzuki service center as not all outside workshops would carry/have access to all parts needed for a major repair. However, that is in the event of a major accident which touch wood doesn't happen often so do enjoy your value buy d-segment car without hesitation you've earned it after spending so much time on a punny Myvi and believe me the upgrade to this car from the Myvi will feel like a million bucks notworthy.gif

Almera - would be a cheap option, good space (as big as c-segment car!) and value. Not a very powerful engine. So of course it's an okay choice and still an upgrade from a myvi but I feel still lacking something since you're going from B-segment to B-segment, and it is a model aimed for more budget consumers.

Fiesta - take your pick! The superb 1.0 ecoboost or the 1.5 engine they're all good. Fiesta has the looks, the handling and the performance to really give you an upgraded feel eventhough you're still within the same class. Fiesta's nowadays have good resale value compared with other fords and maintaince/parts are easy to come back and cheap, any workshop outside can handle this car fully nowadays no need to suffer at the service center beyond the warranty period but the package isn't bad.....5 years warranty and 3 years free maintenance if i remember correctly.

Focus - 100k + would get you a focus with a bit of haggling and discounts, a much better car than the Fiesta but not as common as the Fiesta so resale value might not be so good. Focus are mainstays in our market for sometime so no issues getting outside workshops to handle it when warranty over, I think same package as Fiesta too so you're covered for 3 years anyway wink.gif

Of course the boring and easy choice would be Honda Jazz/City/Vios laugh.gif

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