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 USA Stock Discussion v5, Investment,Trader,Financial Ratios,HUAT?

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danmooncake
post Jan 3 2014, 10:48 PM

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Crap! Damn MMs. Got stop out of my AAPL at 550. Oh well, at least got profits.
Let see if 540 can hold or not.
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post Jan 3 2014, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(Shanicehong @ Jan 3 2014, 11:07 PM)
Anyone know for the currency conversion rate through cimb TT to USA. How much different compare to the actual rate n also additional bank charges? If I plan to trade directly tru USA website? Is it safe?
And how much cheaper compare to trade tru local investment bank?

I'm currently trade via cimb. Their broker charges seems fair of 0.42% n I usually select settle via Myr n the rate seems close to the current rate. eg. Today if I place order to buy :3.2995 & SELL : 3.2855. What do you all think.? Is the rate reasonable?
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If you don't trade a lot, imo that conversion rate seems fair but how much do they charge for actual commissions (when you actually BUY and SELL the US stocks itself)?

Using direct US broker, I pay as low as $1 for commissions each 100 units of stock that I trade.
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post Jan 4 2014, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(Shanicehong @ Jan 3 2014, 11:38 PM)
Commission? Are you referring to minimum broker charge? There is a minimum of Usd 25.00 and to fully utilised the 0.42% a minimum of Usd 6000.00 per trade. And all in charge about 0.6%. Which mean have to accumulate a lot bullet for each trade. Eg. Usd 6210 n total paid 6247.42 before conversion

Anyhow, yours sound so much cheaper? Where you trade?
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0.42% a min of 6K per trade? rclxub.gif
So, you can't trade any US stocks if the total value is less than US6000?
It sounds crazy.

MBtrading is the one that I'm using for low volume stocks because their per share cost is 0.0075.
If you buy 100 shrs of X, you're charge $1. If you buy 500 shrs of X, you're charged $5.


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post Jan 4 2014, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jan 4 2014, 12:26 AM)
break that 538 can see back to 520?.... brows.gif
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Oh.. once that 538 is broken, then it's going to be all out shorts.
Watching this line here.

I think 545 is going to hold tonight since it is expiration Friday. Next week , who knows..
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post Jan 4 2014, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(Shanicehong @ Jan 4 2014, 12:15 AM)
Oh... 100share? So it means they charge based on each 100share and not by value of money? If that the case, which mean u have to buy stock which is higher value then it really do worth a lot. Coz high value of money but per 100share count.    MBtrading? is it safe? Do they provide online trade?
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If you ask around, almost none of the US based broker charges commissions by the value of the stocks.
This is ABSOLUTELY nuts. Perhaps only greedy type of broker that virtually has no competition would do that.

TD Ameritrade for example charges flat rate of $9.99 for ANY size.
Say, I buy 100,000 shares of a stock per trade, it is still 9.99 for commissions.

There are also quite a few commissions free ETFs offered by US brokers nowadays. Go check 'em out. nod.gif
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post Jan 4 2014, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(Shanicehong @ Jan 4 2014, 02:28 AM)
Ok. Finally found my conclusion. Though cimb brokerage fees is high, but exchange rate is reasonably low for the trade. I check cimb website, currency exchange bank sell is 3.343 vs trade offer 3.2995. Can anyone tell that I'm wrong? With such a high differ rate?

What is the exchange rate (bank rate) when u transfer to your respective US account? Any transfer charges?

Cimb for those trade below USD 6k then min total charges shall be around USD35 PER TRADE. I guess so? Sound expensive. But if the exchange rate is cheap, then contra off the higher brokerage charge still consider fair.

Furthermore, I read from somewhere, when u withdraw money from US account, there is an USD 25 charges for withdrawal. So, by then it may cost about the same as cimb. Though, I haven't make any selling yet. He he... Cannot tell if cimb also impose the same.
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If you think about this carefully, you will know it isn't worth your time and money to keep buying US stocks in MYR (Ringgit) terms. It makes no sense to give the money (the spread between the BUY/SELL exchange rate) to the bank and furthermore, your trade ($35/trade) is VERY high. For that fee, it is as if you call your human broker to trade by telephone instead of you doing the trade via computer. Are you talking to a human being that offer you better service? If not, why are you paying that rate if everyone else trading US stocks and paying less than $10 per trade?

So, just keep your money in US brokerage account and let it continue to grow until you earn enough. No need to withdraw until you really need it.

I got more liquid cash in USD than in Ringgit. Last year, I was thinking USD may go down because Fed printing money.. hoping I can convert more to it cheaper, but heck, my pile of USD appreciated even more than Ringgit after the tapering fear, and the Ringgit got weaker.. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jan 4 2014, 05:05 AM)
Apple closed at 541.
Looks like it is still on its way for correction before the quarter report out end of the month.
I am looking at 525-530 area.... hmm.gif
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I nimbled here and immediately sold some cover calls for next week. Let see how it goes. sweat.gif

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post Jan 5 2014, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(Shanicehong @ Jan 5 2014, 02:39 AM)
Okay, I understand what you are trying to say. The brokerage fees is indeed so much cheaper. By the way, to register with any USA trade account, I found out that, they needed us to be either US residents or at least to have US address for "tradeking". Seems like there is so much conditions and troublesome?

How did you people manage to register an US trade account?

In fact I don't really like to keep my foreign investment with local investment bank. My initial idea to trade overseas bcoz I think Ringgit value will depreciate further and what if our government go bankrupt, then all our saving gone. So, channel some money out to protect our wealth.
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I'm giving you a hint already. I did say MB Trading didn't I?
Go there and check out their application. You will need to declare yourself as non-resident alien using form W-8BEN.
Your capital gain won't be taxed but dividends will be withheld.
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post Jan 6 2014, 10:44 PM

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AAPL fell thru 50ma (540) when it opens.
Got some short side of AAPL to play along with the long side/covered calls tonight.
Covering at 535 to scalp $5.

Darn machines.. doh.gif
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post Jan 6 2014, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(foosh @ Jan 6 2014, 08:08 PM)
happy new year all, thanks for opening v5!

What's the flavor for 2014?

So far no head winds I see
1) QE will slowly reduce, markets no fear.
2) debt issues are being discussed.

Any China/emerging market head wind potentials?
Euro Zone anything?
Middle East?
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Uncle Ben/Aunt Yellen machines won't stop yet, may slow down but ain't stopping so far and
we won't see interest rate increase probably till end of 2015.

China - still facing uncertainty and choppy. Market is telling us something.
Euro - recovering slowly (certainly still a bargain).

Tonight, Chinese ETF (FTSE 25 Xinhua) is pulling back big.. if falls thru 200ma, it can spell trouble.


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post Jan 7 2014, 12:21 AM

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Took a short position in TWTR.. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jan 7 2014, 01:20 AM)
damn! apple rebounds already?? what da.... doh.gif
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Phew! Lucky covered 535. 50ma support is here. Saved my butt. sweat.gif
I'll keep the long side with covered calls to play and let see how it plays out by end of this week.

Anyway, took a small position in FB at 54.50. I like it here at the middle of the band.


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post Jan 7 2014, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(Shanicehong @ Jan 7 2014, 10:03 PM)
Yes, I got that replied mail too
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That's too bad. They must have remove Malaysia last year or something. I knew for a fact they did
allow Malaysia citizens/resident to join. A few of us may already have accounts there before they remove the requirements.

Anyway, try TD Ameritrade (9.99/trade). Love its trading tool: ThinkorSwim (the best one I've seen). thumbup.gif
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post Jan 7 2014, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jan 7 2014, 10:41 PM)
you paper profit 100%+ by now?  rclxms.gif
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I took a little profit for FB, I wait for more breakthru at 59 before adding or pull back.
59 seems to be resistance.


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post Jan 8 2014, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(Shanicehong @ Jan 7 2014, 11:45 PM)
does anyone know how to sign up the DRP for sstocks that offer div reinvestment? I check with my broker, she said the stock that I mentioned did not provide so, whereby I check the company web, and it does.
do u think my broker just being sucks n not doing her job? sigh
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DRIP (Dividend Reinvestment Plan) stocks are mostly available for DOW component stocks. eg. XOM, CVX, CSCO, JPM, BA, etc

But, you need to know the US IRS treats dividends as earned income - whether it is pay in cash or in stocks.
You may need to pay upfront (up to 30%) for any earned income since you're non-resident alien (for tax purpose).
Therefore, I believe it is better to go for growth stocks for capital gain than dividends if you're non-resident.
Please do research carefully before setup a DRIP plan with your broker otherwise you'll end up a negative surprise at dividend payout time.




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post Jan 8 2014, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(Shanicehong @ Jan 7 2014, 11:58 PM)
does anyone know that we need to apply for ITIN in oreder to open trade account?
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It depends on the broker when they need a ITIN number or not. Most of them do not if they allow foreign traders as long you file W8BEN form.

But, if you wish to collect dividends and want to file for refunds later with US IRS, you will need an ITIN number if you do not have US SSN number.


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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jan 7 2014, 12:21 AM)
Took a short position in TWTR..  tongue.gif
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Closed out short here at 58. I can't believe TWTR is making me more money than AAPL now. doh.gif
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post Jan 9 2014, 05:45 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jan 9 2014, 04:52 AM)
Apple seems pretty tough on this support area. Wondering if it could reach my target 525-530.  hmm.gif
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It could flush there easily once that thin ice cracks (that 50ma line).
Sold the 552.50 calls to make some money. Let see how it turns out by Friday.
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post Jan 10 2014, 06:09 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jan 10 2014, 05:08 AM)
investors are optimistic on tomorrow's jobs data?
so now once again good news is bad news? 
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I expect bad news... (as in less than expected).
I think the market is due for a short term correction.

I'm seeing buying are slowing. Very tight range now for SP500.

Are u ready with some cash at sidelines?



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post Jan 10 2014, 10:15 PM

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The UE number is 6.7% now (getting closer to 6.5%) but the growth number is only 67k (that's really weak).
The economists now blame the weather and saying now this number is not reliable. laugh.gif



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