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post Feb 7 2014, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 7 2014, 06:15 PM)
Hello i have a question, anyone using Daikin Inverter and facing problem with the mother board which located at the Compressor unit? ( outdoor unit ) ?

and the replacement for that could cost around RM400 or more?
i went to 2 electrical shop one recommended daikin and another on recommended york

im not trying to compare the brand,

basically the main concern is either i choose York non inverter unit or Daikin with inverter, is about the main board unit will it spoilt easily ?

or any user facing this problem before?
SHOP A

Daikin 1 HP with inverter RM1500 with Installation
York 1HP non inverter RM980 with Installation
Shop A only a dealer which they will forward the installation to their sub-con
SHOP B

York 1HP non inverter RM1100 with installation
Shop B only sell York , Fujitsu and Mitsubishi
they is dealer and installer as well

FYI i will install in my Bedroom which is 11 x 11 feet...


thanks in advance for the information and reply
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post Feb 7 2014, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 7 2014, 06:15 PM)
Hello i have a question, anyone using Daikin Inverter and facing problem with the mother board which located at the Compressor unit? ( outdoor unit ) ?

and the replacement for that could cost around RM400 or more?
i went to 2 electrical shop one recommended daikin and another on recommended york

im not trying to compare the brand,

basically the main concern is either i choose York non inverter unit or Daikin with inverter, is about the main board unit will it spoilt easily ?

or any user facing this problem before?
SHOP A

Daikin 1 HP with inverter RM1500 with Installation
York 1HP non inverter RM980 with Installation
Shop A only a dealer which they will forward the installation to their sub-con
SHOP B

York 1HP non inverter RM1100 with installation
Shop B only sell York , Fujitsu and Mitsubishi
they is dealer and installer as well

FYI i will install in my Bedroom which is 11 x 11 feet...


thanks in advance for the information and reply
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For my option and highly recommended you choose an over ME to be save place for easy clean and easy to access blower.

I just realise on York inverter really difficult to remove drain plate and after removed on the air blower was noisy at end blower rubber bearing running noise.

http://www.mitsubishielectricmalaysia.com/...ircond/inverter

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 7 2014, 10:09 PM)
Kim Sim,

i appreciate your recommendation, but i wont go for york inverter, do answer my question regarding the PCB board 1st can? ( no offense ) =)

if inverter i would choose daikin over york...
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I am not sure for daikin PCB.

From my friend he works in s'pore airconds services and he told me don't buy daikin brand these is too many troubleshoot already.

Regarding PCB usually will be spoil only at outdoor unit, on my previous airconds installer for my home on Hitachi inverter 1hp, he said the board is around Rm750 for outdoor unit.

But for me on inverter PCB really durable.
ME still offering for 2 years indoor & 10 yrs for compressor and register online smile.gif



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QUOTE(cavaliars @ Feb 8 2014, 07:14 AM)
Where you buy the additional filter?it wont effect the air blow?
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Can buy in "Daiso" Rm5 per package.

Apply for inverter unit, I don't think will reduce airflow.

Just take noted: unless your aircond is Panasonic non inverter deluxe unit really can feels the difference.

Maybe origin already does not feel is cold at all.
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 8 2014, 11:16 AM)
Kiding,
thanks for the reply, did u asked before how much is the PCB for Mitsubishi inverter?
KimSim,
thanks for your feed back, somehow, you recommended me Mitsubishi due to easy cleaning which i can perform myself am i right?

ok if daikin give alot of problem, i would leave it behind, talk about york , the shop told me york dont have inverter they just took other brand inverter and change the branding to York only...

through both of you feed back, i would only consider Mitsubishi Inverter and York Non inverter then... problem now the price for 1 HP is how much?
mind to share? roughly?

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Due York DC Inverter & daikin is under one roof.
All the parts from York also quite similar like proton products, you can buy the parts as cheaper price to be compare to daikin or others.

If you know the parts then can be walk in to aircond spare parts and grab it as cheaper cost then replace by own.

Just the rubber parts won't be last longer than panasonic/ME, Daikin.

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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 8 2014, 02:41 PM)
So you are generalizing that everything made in China are bad?
If you are so anti China made products, make sure you don't use any of them.
Just to let you know, made in Malaysia stuffs some time are worst than made in China stuffs.
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Made in china is not consider bad.
The bad one maybe is under our malaysia supplier to be bring in it products as lower class or higher class and then selling in m'sia today.

Why I saying it?
Nowadays China currency to RM already be 1 to 1.8.
But in malaysia still able to sold it as cheaper price for our budget needed.

Just compare to S'pore for 1hp can be easily selling $SGD600 and above also without installer.


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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 9 2014, 01:07 AM)
sorry kim sim mind to circle or point where is the rubber part? from that picture?
i see thanks for your feed back, u replace the PCB or change new air cond ?
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Wait I got time and go to SIN MA in Johor jaya, JB have bigger airconds parts supplier and after bought then take picture to show u.

So far I had never change PCB before, these only took me too noisy like before panasonic non-inverter deluxe NAVI model & older hitachi non inverter 10k btu model for me is still good in condition, these is too much for energy with noisy & under cooling for Panasonic less than a year replace with ME starmex inverter & hitachi DC inverter so far so good for them still cold like when new.
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 9 2014, 11:29 AM)
oh... so far the inverter type of air cond u using for how long already? 1 year?
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Close to 4 years didn't call for services and ask for clean out drain leakage or overfall.

you check with this model rclxms.gif

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1hp ME Starmex inverter for 640w notworthy.gif
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2.5hp ME for 1830w only
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QUOTE(monkey9926 @ Feb 10 2014, 12:24 PM)
so many people told me this!!!! thumbup.gif
my mum already say....york cooling king. lol i pitam when she sang the advertisement song.

old and trusted brand i supposed.

any york hater here. i wanna collect more opinions.
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Anywhere wanna more faster to cooling down and look for bigger outside size of unit.

The rest after install then u has realise what I saying
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QUOTE(monkey9926 @ Feb 10 2014, 12:45 PM)
also depends on the the electric ler. not everyone has/ intend to change to 3 phase.
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No I was mean the outdoor size of cut cost design for smaller size and reduce lesses alumn coil. That is why not cooling as fast.

I think York still offering bigger size than Panasonic 1hp smile.gif
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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 10 2014, 01:00 PM)
I still prefer National if possible, but sadly, changed name already, haha.
Mine are Panasonic 2HP while my neighbour York 2HP. No doubt it does have a bigger outdoor unit, but I always turn off faster than his. Not to mention the noise generated by his outdoor unit.
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Definitely National is good brand and also the parts with compressor all made from Japan and rebadge in m'sia only.
Nowadays Panasonic all parts from china already.
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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 10 2014, 01:20 PM)
Then it is no good and York better? I just need to you to say : made in China stuffs are not good, don't buy from them.
But each time you chicken out and ask me to go round the garden.
Stop generalizing as I repeatedly said.
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Don't be too sensitive.

You got money why not choose for others brand.

I'm not said Panasonic not as good.

For example like Panasonic inverter is good also.
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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 10 2014, 02:18 PM)
As said, don't be a chicken and ask others to go round the garden.
First statement say a brand is no good as it is made in China, when people ask why, you say nothing. This is not sensitive as you said. I need clarification. But till now you can't clarify. shakehead.gif  doh.gif
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Oops let you too sad..

I'm apologised from what I saying before here.

Cause still in CNY no point to arguement smile.gif
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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 10 2014, 02:37 PM)
Is this called argument? I doubt so. You said made in China stuffs no good? Fact and figures where? And you are a chinese? Come on man, don't be a racist *******.
But this world less you 1 will not be less, since you don't come out such no ground statement, more will do also.
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You want good ah go for Media or Gree to instead panasonic bro.

Also depend how much do you able to pay for..

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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 10 2014, 02:53 PM)
As said, don't be a chicken, show us the fact and figures on made in China stuffs are bad. Don't come out some irrelevant reply.
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Lol.. Why so serious.

Made in china still have good one and just depend how much quality as what you pay for it.

Now is what generation, do you think we paying lower price and still getting in top quality like god made?

Wake up bro..in future lagi worst quality again.

Due to china currency has much storonger than malaysia riggit.

If you wanna buy just go ahead, I'm no comment.

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QUOTE(ivan92 @ Feb 10 2014, 07:24 PM)
thanks for sharing smile.gif
the 2.5HP is used in your living room?
the shop quoted me 2.5HP inverter for 3.3k, how much you get yours?
i gonna take 2.5HP R22 type for living room due to short usage duration and the outdoor unit size was more or less the same with 2.0HP

anyway, i presume ME aircon are made in thailand?
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Hi, mine is inverter type R410a believe me go for inverter unit.
Now 3.5 years already and price without install for Rm2900.

Yes nowadays ME are made in Thailand with top quality control, even SG also imported the same specs.

If you really short duration can be consider for 2hp inverter unit.

Don't waste money to pay more for TNB bill.
Buy new and install for one short only, and pain for every months to pay as higher bill for non inverter unit.

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Below here has 2 comparison with non inverter vs inverter unit.

For inverter unit
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Non inverter unit
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Above here has 2 specs.

Non inverter BTU 1.8k and power input watt = 2030w per hour without part load.

Inverter BTU 1.8k and power input watt = 1630w when reaching the set point to be keep as port loan at 480w only and maintenance until next morning.
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QUOTE(ivan92 @ Feb 10 2014, 07:50 PM)
2HP with 2 fan (plan to add one more fan later on) should be sufficient i guess
living room aircon will be turned on when having guests come over (5 hours+- max), and maybe 2-4 hours on really hot evening
i plan to use fan only whenever possible
so on average, how much is your monthly bill? and how many units of electric you used on average?
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I have 3 x 1hp & 2.5hp all inverter.
Usually for everyday operate on 1hp x 2 for around 8 hours at lease and 2.5hp from morning 10am till nighttime around 11-12am then stop.

I have inverter frigerator also and sometime using dryer when raining season.

My bill is around Rm300++ or below Rm300, cause using inverter min. Required set point at 25c really can feels like non-inverter 19c lol

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QUOTE(ivan92 @ Feb 10 2014, 08:34 PM)
i see, your fridge also ME? or panasonic?
i plan to get a 5-star rated ME fridge as well

i guess my usage would be master bedroom 11PM-6AM daily
another bedroom will be empty, only occupied when my sister is around, or when having guest overnight, should be 8PM-morning occasionally
my living room is connected to dining area and kitchen, so i will install the bigger HP aircon as you recommended or see what the shop's/installer's suggestion on the installation location hmm.gif

i do understand about the 25C+auto setting condition, it's written on most inverter aircon brochure nod.gif
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Mine is Panasonic Econavi inverter frigerator around 600 litter.

Actually like my house all link still can consider 2hp, but 2hp does not offer with auto swing left & right vent.
Then go for 2.5hp and never regretted.

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Best on 25c is your minimum set point, you can set below 23c then you can't sleep as well loh, these is cold until the wall become turning water marks or fogging at mirror.

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