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post Feb 10 2014, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(ivan92 @ Feb 10 2014, 09:04 PM)
i see, so inverter aircon need to have specific A/C point?
or just normal A/C point?
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Normal power point. Just note that inverter power supply from outdoor unit.
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post Feb 10 2014, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(ivan92 @ Feb 10 2014, 09:13 PM)
outdoor unit as in?  hmm.gif
means have to pull wire from indoor box to outside for outdoor unit?
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Ya, at lease 2 ways wires from indoor to outdoor and from outdoor to control indoor unit.

Any issue from outdoor cut off 1st.
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post Feb 10 2014, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(ivan92 @ Feb 10 2014, 09:19 PM)
i see, so i can ask my electrician to preinstall the wire first and then the aircon installer just plug it in?
or it had to done by the aircon installer?
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Anywhere the aircond shop also able to do for you.

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post Feb 10 2014, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(ivan92 @ Feb 10 2014, 09:46 PM)
i see, so i will just ask the electrician to help me do normal A/C point
and the shop's aircon installer to do the indoor <-> outdoor wiring
any idea how much do they charge for the wiring job?

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Not sure wow. Very long time didn't touch my aircond again.
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post Feb 10 2014, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(mindrunner @ Feb 10 2014, 10:27 PM)
Thanks for your discussions. Very informative.
Almost ready to order.
Being a bit conservative, so planning to to get 1 HP Ionizer non inverter York For master and 2 HP non inverter for hall.

Currently waiting on floor plan to show sales man
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 11 2014, 09:41 AM)
i got a quote for Mitsubishi 1HP air cond with inverter, price rm1600 much expensive than daikin rm1500 >.< with installation..

damn... oh ya question is what is the different for Mitsubishi heavy industry and Mitsubishi electric? the shop said the air cond is by Mitsubishi Heavy Industry..
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Ha ha go for google then you can find the history.

ME got easy clean only.
MHI without easy clean access.
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 11 2014, 09:41 AM)
i got a quote for Mitsubishi 1HP air cond with inverter, price rm1600 much expensive than daikin rm1500 >.< with installation..

damn... oh ya question is what is the different for Mitsubishi heavy industry and Mitsubishi electric? the shop said the air cond is by Mitsubishi Heavy Industry..
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Ha ha go for google then you can find the history.

ME got easy clean only.
MHI without easy clean access.
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 11 2014, 05:12 PM)
hmm? i thought over power air cond would be take more power consumption which make it more expensive in electricity bills?
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I guess you are the city kid.

In before living in kampung with very weak power cable to supply all the house for electricity.

Once you switch on aircond and the warm color blub light can notices like blinking on & off.

If using higher power non-inverter aircond to be draw in high power consumption for every time on & off. The the Blub really can't last longer...lol
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 11 2014, 05:33 PM)
so you trying to said, go for a bigger 1.5hp for faster cooling and faster went to inverter mode which maintain the temp only?
but my room for 1HP already quite over power abit lolz... i dont know my calculation right or wrong.

my room 15 feet (wide) x 15 feet (depth) x 15 feet (high)
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Seriously 4.5m x 4.5m still can fit in 1hp?

Die die must go for 1.5hp and no regret.

You just telling us, you driving kancil 660cc and fit in 5 adults and try to pull till end of accelerator to when up hill.
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 11 2014, 05:41 PM)
yea i live in kajang can consider city i think... haha

i still headache on this selection issue,
i ready back the earlier post the inverter for daikin and york with installation not even rm1300 now they quoted me rm1500 =.= is that increase in pricing or what...  and about selection of daikin and york now... mitsubishi i would give up already too expensive...
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No worried just go for any brand model made for inverter unit.

Cause the budget still belong to you
Even York inverter I still highly to recommended
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QUOTE(tarvalslain87 @ Feb 11 2014, 05:54 PM)
Hi, would like to gather some opinion regarding two air-con brands. One will be Panasonic another will be Daikin. My developer will be giving me air-conds for all rooms in my new house. So I will have to choose either one.

Between these two brands, which one will be more reliable? My current house is using Panasonic and I find it reliable and durable. Im not so sure about Daikin. So need some input on which to choose

No idea on the models as of now. Just need to know in general.
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Both are the reliable brand.
Just take note : non inverter is noisy and higher monthly bill only.

If you were don't mind then top up a bit to be going inverter for save earth and reduce heat.
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Feb 11 2014, 06:05 PM)
Sorry to say but you are focusing on the wrong thing.

As long as you get the RIGHT size air cond and know how Inverter works and can accept the higher initial cost, get an Inverter. I expect to recoup the higher initial cost in 12 months through lower electricity bills. My only regret is not having the opportunities to get the Inverter sooner.

Now there is another benefit of Inverter which I seldom see mentioned. With Inverter, once the inverter cuts in, the air cond is a LOT quieter than non-inverter. I really meant "a lot". This is because they no longer work "at full load" nor any more "thump" stop-starting.
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Inverter also save your money to replace outdoor fan motor and compressor mounting.

Cause you not longer using full load with high power for rotary like no tomorrow and quite generate heat of issue and noise too.


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QUOTE(dannyw @ Feb 11 2014, 05:55 PM)
Talk about power consumption, let say I set the same temperature for 1.0HP Inverter and 1.5HP Inverter, which one will consume more power?

I know the concept is 1.0HP should take slightly longer compare to 1.5HP to reach the temperature, after reach both may run at low power.

So one with higher power in short period, another is lower power but slightly longer time, but overall which one consume more power?
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You can compare which one is lower input power watt and higher BTU for more faster as cooling down in short time.

1hp definitely is lower energy and take longer to cooling down.
1.5hp more higher airflow and higher BTU with use more input watt of compressor running time.

Whatever here, if you decide to inverter 2hp and below of your monthly really able to cut down 50-60% of equal to non-inverter 1hp with full load for all the times.

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For me if these is still products the same specs I would go for this smile.gif

For outdoor dunno how big and lower input watt for compressor at 680w at 8530 BTU.

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 11 2014, 05:54 PM)
I see, room window facing north, 2 adults and one infant haha
the door closing and opening quite frequent i think
hmm okay... !
yea i understand, but my main concern is i dont want get chopped... been asked around the price for 1HP is rm1500 for inverter daikin and 1.5Hp is around RM1700 is that over price or wht? or the currently market price is around that?
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Why not try to get York inverter?
You didn't compare the indoor & outdoor design was almost same and only York inverter does not built in eye motion to capture human in bedroom or leaving the room to increase 1 more deg only.


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QUOTE(ivan92 @ Feb 11 2014, 08:55 PM)
sorry for noob question blush.gif

i got 2 rooms need to install aircon, one masterbed room about 12ft++ x 11ft++ x height not sure, 1 adult, window didnt exposed to sun all day, 1HP is sufficient? or i need to go for 1.5HP?

another room is 9.5ft++ x 7ft++ x height not sure, facing west, sunlight come in from window on afternoon until evening, will be insulated with curtain and tint film, 1 adult. 1HP is enough, right?

ME inverter vs york inverter, overall ME is better? hmm.gif
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Anywhere your room size still able to install 1hp inverter unit.

ME definitely is better than York
Once is imported and one is local made.

If you install 1.5hp really overkill.

Unless your room size really bigger than 5m x 5m x 3m Height then go for 1.5hp.
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 11 2014, 09:49 PM)
Bro thanks for your reply, i come home and remeasure and my dad even told me my room is 12 feet x 12 feet x 11 feet... do i still need 1.5HP?
Kimsim, i dont understand why york and not daikin? and you mention york did not build in eye motion to capture human in bedroom,
and daikin does? what is the disadvantages of that?
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York is under daikin company and sharing same technology from daikin low budget design and cut cost for without eye motion in York Y Series inverter.

These is same like Toyota = Daikin
Perodua = York
But both also have passo or Myvi right.

From here if you can't understand then go for google it out notworthy.gif

Just noted that Daikin compressor using E-Scoll type & York compressor use DC Rotary type.

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 11 2014, 10:17 PM)
yea  i understand you... but ur statement kinda wrong is it? on the 1st paragraph u said daikin is low budget and york is toyota

and 2nd paragraph mention daikin is toyota and york is perodua

this confuse me... which 1 is toyota actually? =.=
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Haiya

Daikin = Toyota la...lol

Where got worldwide company worst than malaysia smaller peanut company.

Anywhere if you wanna know more thier feature and power input watt, just go to 1st page and viewing the data sheet.

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Dec 10 2013, 09:28 PM)
previous thread : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/751278

we restart again here to be discussion on non inverter or inverter aircond for our living needs.  rclxms.gif

some data tips only, but price may asking for latest seller.

Download Air Cond Data here!

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Feb 11 2014, 10:52 PM)
may i ask, what's the different? What's the pros and cons?
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Not sure leh... Maybe you can search and collect more detail on Mazda RX8 rotary engine vs normal engine got any pro & cons..lol

For me of my house can keep more cooling and more power saving should be my right choice smile.gif

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