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post Jun 26 2006, 03:58 AM, updated 20y ago

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I am looking for a footwear, to be used for running / jogging / walking. For your information, I am 191cm and 107kg. My shoe size is 11 US-measurement.

During the day-time, I will follow my mother and her sisters to jog in the stadium.

During the evening, I usually go walking or jogging at a park with tar-road, dirt, etc - more like training.

My question:

1. Do I need a good shoe for this - running, training?

2. Nike, Adidas, Puma, Reebok, etc, which is prefered?

3. Do I look for training footwear or running footwear?

4. Is it necessarily to get the best shoe Air Max 360 to stay in trend or does those shoe equipped with new technology is really good for your feet? Or a non-expensive Nike running shoe is fine?

5. Sometimes, when I run, I try to straigten my back as straight as possible. Sometimes, even when I cannot tahan, I push myself until my head is looking up, gasping for air. Most of the time, I end up with a pain on my left side of tummy, else my feet feels heating up and the sole of my feet is sore / pain - WHATS WRONG?


Note: Because of No.5, sole of feet pain, I asked No.4 question. Is the shoe not right for me? Or is it necessarily to get the latest shoe, helps with the legs?


Anyone who can advice, will be of great help. Thank you. Appreciated.
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post Jun 26 2006, 11:53 AM

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Hi,

If you really plan to go for jogging regularly, yeah you need good shoes. Then for the choice it depends on your foot. It depends what kind of runner you are. Just look at your actual shoes: is it spoiled on the interior side, exterior or none? Then go to the shop (a dedicated running shop if possible), explain to the sales person and ask for advice...don't forget to try the shoes first. You need comfortable shoes with good shock absorbers. When you run there is a lot of pressure each time you hit the ground...and it can be harmfull for your muscles and your back...
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post Jun 26 2006, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jun 26 2006, 03:58 AM)
I am looking for a footwear, to be used for running / jogging / walking. For your information, I am 191cm and 107kg. My shoe size is 11 US-measurement.

During the day-time, I will follow my mother and her sisters to jog in the stadium.

During the evening, I usually go walking or jogging at a park with tar-road, dirt, etc - more like training.

My question:

1. Do I need a good shoe for this - running, training?

2. Nike, Adidas, Puma, Reebok, etc, which is prefered?

3. Do I look for training footwear or running footwear?

4. Is it necessarily to get the best shoe Air Max 360 to stay in trend or does those shoe equipped with new technology is really good for your feet? Or a non-expensive Nike running shoe is fine?

5. Sometimes, when I run, I try to straigten my back as straight as possible. Sometimes, even when I cannot tahan, I push myself until my head is looking up, gasping for air. Most of the time, I end up with a pain on my left side of tummy, else my feet feels heating up and the sole of my feet is sore / pain - WHATS WRONG?
Note: Because of No.5, sole of feet pain, I asked No.4 question. Is the shoe not right for me? Or is it necessarily to get the latest shoe, helps with the legs?
Anyone who can advice, will be of great help. Thank you. Appreciated.
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1- yes, good shoes are important when running. you can avoid impact related injuries with good shoes among other things.

2- i've had nike, reebok and adidas running shoes, all work as intended, each brand has its on price range and usually the $600 while not really superior to the $500 pair is miles ahead of the $200-300 pair. i personaly like my nike's the most since i have wide feet and they fit me better than the others.

3- you look for running shoes if you're going for jogging or running.

4- the Nike Air really does help with impact absorbtion, not necessary but definitely a + since you say you're obese it will help you save your knees and ankles among other things. other brands have some sort of air system aswell.

5- well, the left side of your tummy getting sore is normal, you're just having side stitch, you can find more info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Side_stitch .
your burning feet imo is normal, not sure what causes it, someone probably does and will chime in but i get burning feet after 5-6miles so... yeah.

also you said that you would be jogging in a stadium?
most tracks in stadiums are made of astro turf or some other type of soft material to provide cushioning, you might want to look into shoes which are designed specifically for use on a running track.

another thing to remember is that you have to replace your shoes fairly often if you use them alot, every 200-450 miles or so depending on the condition of the shoe. so before buying your shoes know how much you're going to be running and budget out your purchases so you dont go with an expensive $600 then wind up having to replace them 14 months later with a crappy $150 pair.
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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jun 26 2006, 12:04 PM)
1- yes, good shoes are important when running. you can avoid impact related injuries with good shoes among other things.

2- i've had nike, reebok and adidas running shoes, all work as intended, each brand has its on price range and usually the $600 while not really superior to the $500 pair is miles ahead of the $200-300 pair. i personaly like my nike's the most since i have wide feet and they fit me better than the others.

3- you look for running shoes if you're going for jogging or running.

4- the Nike Air really does help with impact absorbtion, not necessary but definitely a + since you say you're obese it will help you save your knees and ankles among other things. other brands have some sort of air system aswell.

5- well, the left side of your tummy getting sore is normal, you're just having side stitch, you can find more info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Side_stitch .
your burning feet imo is normal, not sure what causes it, someone probably does and will chime in but i get burning feet after 5-6miles so... yeah.

also you said that you would be jogging in a stadium?
most tracks in stadiums are made of astro turf or some other type of soft material to provide cushioning, you might want to look into shoes which are designed specifically for use on a running track.

another thing to remember is that you have to replace your shoes fairly often if you use them alot, every 200-450 miles or so depending on the condition of the shoe. so before buying your shoes know how much you're going to be running and budget out your purchases so you dont go with an expensive $600 then wind up having to replace them 14 months later with a crappy $150 pair.
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I personally found that most of the salesperson doesnt know in-depth about running shoes.
For a wide forefoot and a narrow heel, anyone has similar foot type as me? what shoes do you wear?
I also have tried many brands, I found that adidas has a narrow forefoot and narrow heel as well. Nike, eg. pegasus has wide width option for ppl with wider forefoot. Nike seems to be not so durable and my fren has his nike air shoes burst becoz of a nail. New balance also have width options, but it is too loose in the heel part for me.
I am currently wearing asics 1100, tying the laces all the way up to the last hole to prevent heel slip.
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post Jun 26 2006, 01:14 PM

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i'm running on a pair of nike brs1000's, seem to be holding up well so far, havent stepped onto any nails facing upwards yet so we'll see tongue.gif .

i have a relatively wide forefoot which looks wierd since i have short toes doh.gif but my heel isnt narrow, so my nike's fit me fine. try looking at reebok, they seem to have nice wide fronts with decently fitting heel sections.
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oh crap.. i'm using my Carlton badminton shoes for jogging on treadmill doh.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(goliath @ Jun 26 2006, 01:35 PM)
oh crap.. i'm using my Carlton badminton shoes for jogging on treadmill  doh.gif    sweat.gif
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pffft, i used to run in RM3 bata slippers.


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alright, compare with my el-cheapo shoes with a Nike shoe, does the performance wise affected (as in running extra 10 miles and bla bla bla)?
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post Jun 26 2006, 02:36 PM

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www.kicksology.net for great reviews. I love my nike prestos.
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post Jun 26 2006, 06:46 PM

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Presto was my favorite but I busted it after wearing for many years. At least 3 - 4 years.

Then Nike Free 5.0 was my new shoe. Wore it to Australia, walked around Australia with it. The netting near the heels tore off in Australia. I still wear it now but I find it unsuitable for the terrain I go running cause it's 'free.'

Nike Free makes me feel like not wearing shoe but it's so flimsy that if you miss a step in jungle track, it's not hard enough so you sprain easily.

I thought about Air Max 360 but too expensive and the first edition is already sold out. I am still contemplating what shoes to get.
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post Jun 26 2006, 06:50 PM

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When I was out there, I feel very light headed. I have breathing difficulties. I cannot stand it so I took a break sitting on the ground (I know it's not good to do this, ppl said, true ah?)


By the way, my activity, I wouldnt say jogging. Most of the time, I brisk walk up hill to the reservoir. Then I track the jungle. Some parts like staircases, I speed. Some parts like coming down another flight of stairs, I jumped. But there wasnt any real jogging.

Even when I go to stadium in the morning... I can only jog for 1 round. Humiliating, I know. Only age 26, but can only run 1 round!! I cannot stand taking small pace jogging, I use big pace and I am tall. Mom says I'm running, not jogging.

Jogging has too many repetitions and takes up too long. Running completes the circle just right before I run out of breathe.
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Light headed and breathing difficulties?

Are you dehydrated and hyper ventilated? Does your mouth feels dry and lungs feel uncomfortably cold when you jog? I used to jog but it was too tormenting. I prefer my pain to come in one large package than to have it being delivered little by little over a long period of time. Bearing with the burn is just so mind wrenching. So, I stopped jogging and opt for something else.

It's better to run than jog. So, keep it up. Stamina can be slowly built up over the months. So, in 2 months time you will probably be able to run for 5 laps without panting given sufficient rest and nutrition for physical adaptation.

I agree that jogging is boring and the effort spent isn't worth the outcome (physique wise though you'll appreciate your improved stamina). There are a lot more options when it comes to being fit.

Oh and malaysianPotato knows a lot of stuff I noticed.
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post Jun 26 2006, 11:33 PM

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i find its easier to run on a treadmill with a picture of something i want infront of me, its like i'm chasing it. just this morning i had a picture of jessica alba right infront of the treadmill, it was like chasing a dream! fun stuff tongue.gif who cares about the burn! jessica alba! RAWR! rclxm9.gif no not really.

i watch cnn when i run indoors, i alternate between running indoors and outdoors so i dont feel like a labrat in a running wheel. it makes life alot easier if you can think about something you like when you run, thinking about getting to the end of the run works well too.

making sure to drink enough water while running is important, especially when you're running outdoors, cramps can hit you very quickly and falling down sucks, injuries suck even more.

alot of people dont like running or jogging, its time consuming and like fleshwound says its boring, find something that fits you, that you like and you can set a goal on.

goals are important, for beginners or people who are working to lose weight set something that isnt too hard to achieve but ofcourse it musnt be a cake walk. when you achieve something that you worked hard for you'll start to feel good about yourself and then you can set new higher goals.

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Sometimes it's not the shoe. I used to experience sole/heel pain too, but 2 years of martial art training has made it less noticeable. I don't really care what shoes i wear, since they wear out really fast, and it's much easier on the wallet to replace rm30-40 shoes every 6 months than rm200-300 shoes every 2 years. Barefoot also works. You might want to continue with your current arrangement for a few weeks, and see if the pain persists.

BTW, if you're buying branded shoes, somebody in the shop ought to know his/her shoe stuff. IMHO, since i worked in a shoe warehouse sale before, there isn't that much difference between brands, but you have to get the shoe type suited for your activity. Support, flexing and structure differ between shoe types due to the different activity requirements. Though i still think it's a waste getting branded shoes unless you need to train like a maniac.
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post Jun 27 2006, 04:10 AM

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QUOTE(FleshWound @ Jun 26 2006, 09:46 PM)
Light headed and breathing difficulties?

Are you dehydrated and hyper ventilated? Does your mouth feels dry and lungs feel uncomfortably cold when you jog? I used to jog but it was too tormenting. I prefer my pain to come in one large package than to have it being delivered little by little over a long period of time. Bearing with the burn is just so mind wrenching. So, I stopped jogging and opt for something else.

It's better to run than jog. So, keep it up. Stamina can be slowly built up over the months. So, in 2 months time you will probably be able to run for 5 laps without panting given sufficient rest and nutrition for physical adaptation.

I agree that jogging is boring and the effort spent isn't worth the outcome (physique wise though you'll appreciate your improved stamina). There are a lot more options when it comes to being fit.

Oh and malaysianPotato knows a lot of stuff I noticed.
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I am probably dehydrated but what's hyper ventilated? My mouth was bloody dry but I cant feel my lungs. I am not exaggerating but when I run around, jump about the stairs, tracking thru the jungle - I could feel my heart pumping, real fast. I can feel it on my chest and even on my back. I am not kidding. When I came back home, laid down on the floor. I could feel my heart banging, even on my back, I could feel my back twitching. Problem is sometimes, I push myself too hard when I want something bad enough.

Back in my gym days, being overweight does not stop me from running at 12.0 speed. I didnt run that kind of speed for long but I can last a good 3 minute. My heart beat will go all the way up to 190. My friends often laughed at me saying my heart is my speedometer, sangkut corner. (like cars stuck at 180km/h). Ever since I found out it's really bad as I may just snapped anytime, I stopped.

But because of overweight, a bit a bit, my heart rate goes above 170. At first, the gym trainer taught I was hardworking, I was pushing it. Well, yes, I was pushing it but it's not because I was hardworking but rather because I'm bloody out of shape that's why even with just a little resistance, while others doing the same program has a constant 160 heart rate, mine was already 180.

I am looking into swimming now and cycling.

QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jun 26 2006, 11:33 PM)
i find its easier to run on a treadmill with a picture of something i want infront of me, its like i'm chasing it. just this morning i had a picture of jessica alba right infront of the treadmill, it was like chasing a dream! fun stuff  tongue.gif who cares about the burn! jessica alba! RAWR!  rclxm9.gif  no not really.

i watch cnn when i run indoors, i alternate between running indoors and outdoors so i dont feel like a labrat in a running wheel. it makes life alot easier if you can think about something you like when you run, thinking about getting to the end of the run works well too.

making sure to drink enough water while running is important, especially when you're running outdoors, cramps can hit you very quickly and falling down sucks, injuries suck even more.

alot of people dont like running or jogging, its time consuming and like fleshwound says its boring, find something that fits you, that you like and you can set a goal on.

goals are important, for beginners or people who are working to lose weight set something that isnt too hard to achieve but ofcourse it musnt be a cake walk. when you achieve something that you worked hard for you'll start to feel good about yourself and then you can set new higher goals.
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Woah... great idea, Jessica Alba!! I would run after her too. Anyway, I dont have a threadmill at home. Dont intend to buy one until I move house after CNY next year. Waiting for my new home to be ready.

However, my mom bought this machine that was promoted by that Big Brother Jake dude. Sorta like a skiiing machine. Paddle with two bars that goes forth and back. I think that machine is pretty pathetic and it's put in the corridor with nothing to see while my TV is in my parents room or downstairs! Argh!!

Something that fits me and I like would be sex. Heard it burns a lot of calories right? But then later, my gf might end up paralyzed so that is my last option. For now, swimming, cycling, tracking the jungle is good. Jogging, I suck. Running, I dont last too long.

QUOTE(snorlax @ Jun 27 2006, 12:40 AM)
Sometimes it's not the shoe. I used to experience sole/heel pain too, but 2 years of martial art training has made it less noticeable. I don't really care what shoes i wear, since they wear out really fast, and it's much easier on the wallet to replace rm30-40 shoes every 6 months than rm200-300 shoes every 2 years. Barefoot also works. You might want to continue with your current arrangement for a few weeks, and see if the pain persists.

BTW, if you're buying branded shoes, somebody in the shop ought to know his/her shoe stuff. IMHO, since i worked in a shoe warehouse sale before, there isn't that much difference between brands, but you have to get the shoe type suited for your activity. Support, flexing and structure differ between shoe types due to the different activity requirements. Though i still think it's a waste getting branded shoes unless you need to train like a maniac.
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I still think I need a shoe hard enough so my feet dont get twisted as I track the jungle. You know all those "akar" of the trees and grass and holes on the floors. I need a really hard shoes that can protect my feet, rather than Nike Free 5.0, made of "kain" wan.

I thought of trying to run barefoot to see if it makes my legs stronger, my feet more rough to withstand different terrain but scared poke on glass or thorns. Too much consideration. Looking for a tough-built running shoe. Probably should look for training shoes instead.

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hyperventilation - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperventilation (love wikipedia, its great!)

keeping yourself hydrated is important, carry a small bottle of water with you and take sips as you run.

wow, 190 lol, thats high. dangerous to get that high, good thing you stopped.

try timberland i hear they have good shoes for jungle tracking.

oh and yeah sex is good for you, apparently if you have sex 5 times a week you're something like 20% less likely to have heart problems.

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post Jun 27 2006, 10:58 AM

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try new ballance, the price is good and the comfort is there. u need a pair of good shoes to jog, not 500-buck-shoes to show off. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jun 27 2006, 04:10 AM)
I still think I need a shoe hard enough so my feet dont get twisted as I track the jungle. You know all those "akar" of the trees and grass and holes on the floors. I need a really hard shoes that can protect my feet, rather than Nike Free 5.0, made of "kain" wan.

I thought of trying to run barefoot to see if it makes my legs stronger, my feet more rough to withstand different terrain but scared poke on glass or thorns. Too much consideration. Looking for a tough-built running shoe. Probably should look for training shoes instead.
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Ooo.....jungle trekking....personally i prefer tennis shoes like pallas jazz for that....inexpensive, and lets me feel what i'm running on. That's just my taste though. I agree something with thick soles would be good if you're running in different types of tracks since you never know what's going to be on the track. Barefoot is usually okay on tracks and sand. I'd wear shoes on grass or whatever i can't see clearly.
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QUOTE(eddychstu @ Jun 27 2006, 10:58 AM)
try new ballance, the price is good and the comfort is there. u need a pair of good shoes to jog, not 500-buck-shoes to show off. laugh.gif
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if you run alot you'd notice there is a difference in higher end shoes and lower end shoes. its like comparing a perdana and a e55 amg, they'll both get you there but the e55 will do it in style and comfort.

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