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TSPennywise
post Jun 26 2006, 03:58 AM, updated 20y ago

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I am looking for a footwear, to be used for running / jogging / walking. For your information, I am 191cm and 107kg. My shoe size is 11 US-measurement.

During the day-time, I will follow my mother and her sisters to jog in the stadium.

During the evening, I usually go walking or jogging at a park with tar-road, dirt, etc - more like training.

My question:

1. Do I need a good shoe for this - running, training?

2. Nike, Adidas, Puma, Reebok, etc, which is prefered?

3. Do I look for training footwear or running footwear?

4. Is it necessarily to get the best shoe Air Max 360 to stay in trend or does those shoe equipped with new technology is really good for your feet? Or a non-expensive Nike running shoe is fine?

5. Sometimes, when I run, I try to straigten my back as straight as possible. Sometimes, even when I cannot tahan, I push myself until my head is looking up, gasping for air. Most of the time, I end up with a pain on my left side of tummy, else my feet feels heating up and the sole of my feet is sore / pain - WHATS WRONG?


Note: Because of No.5, sole of feet pain, I asked No.4 question. Is the shoe not right for me? Or is it necessarily to get the latest shoe, helps with the legs?


Anyone who can advice, will be of great help. Thank you. Appreciated.
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post Jun 26 2006, 06:46 PM

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Presto was my favorite but I busted it after wearing for many years. At least 3 - 4 years.

Then Nike Free 5.0 was my new shoe. Wore it to Australia, walked around Australia with it. The netting near the heels tore off in Australia. I still wear it now but I find it unsuitable for the terrain I go running cause it's 'free.'

Nike Free makes me feel like not wearing shoe but it's so flimsy that if you miss a step in jungle track, it's not hard enough so you sprain easily.

I thought about Air Max 360 but too expensive and the first edition is already sold out. I am still contemplating what shoes to get.
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post Jun 26 2006, 06:50 PM

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When I was out there, I feel very light headed. I have breathing difficulties. I cannot stand it so I took a break sitting on the ground (I know it's not good to do this, ppl said, true ah?)


By the way, my activity, I wouldnt say jogging. Most of the time, I brisk walk up hill to the reservoir. Then I track the jungle. Some parts like staircases, I speed. Some parts like coming down another flight of stairs, I jumped. But there wasnt any real jogging.

Even when I go to stadium in the morning... I can only jog for 1 round. Humiliating, I know. Only age 26, but can only run 1 round!! I cannot stand taking small pace jogging, I use big pace and I am tall. Mom says I'm running, not jogging.

Jogging has too many repetitions and takes up too long. Running completes the circle just right before I run out of breathe.
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post Jun 27 2006, 04:10 AM

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QUOTE(FleshWound @ Jun 26 2006, 09:46 PM)
Light headed and breathing difficulties?

Are you dehydrated and hyper ventilated? Does your mouth feels dry and lungs feel uncomfortably cold when you jog? I used to jog but it was too tormenting. I prefer my pain to come in one large package than to have it being delivered little by little over a long period of time. Bearing with the burn is just so mind wrenching. So, I stopped jogging and opt for something else.

It's better to run than jog. So, keep it up. Stamina can be slowly built up over the months. So, in 2 months time you will probably be able to run for 5 laps without panting given sufficient rest and nutrition for physical adaptation.

I agree that jogging is boring and the effort spent isn't worth the outcome (physique wise though you'll appreciate your improved stamina). There are a lot more options when it comes to being fit.

Oh and malaysianPotato knows a lot of stuff I noticed.
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I am probably dehydrated but what's hyper ventilated? My mouth was bloody dry but I cant feel my lungs. I am not exaggerating but when I run around, jump about the stairs, tracking thru the jungle - I could feel my heart pumping, real fast. I can feel it on my chest and even on my back. I am not kidding. When I came back home, laid down on the floor. I could feel my heart banging, even on my back, I could feel my back twitching. Problem is sometimes, I push myself too hard when I want something bad enough.

Back in my gym days, being overweight does not stop me from running at 12.0 speed. I didnt run that kind of speed for long but I can last a good 3 minute. My heart beat will go all the way up to 190. My friends often laughed at me saying my heart is my speedometer, sangkut corner. (like cars stuck at 180km/h). Ever since I found out it's really bad as I may just snapped anytime, I stopped.

But because of overweight, a bit a bit, my heart rate goes above 170. At first, the gym trainer taught I was hardworking, I was pushing it. Well, yes, I was pushing it but it's not because I was hardworking but rather because I'm bloody out of shape that's why even with just a little resistance, while others doing the same program has a constant 160 heart rate, mine was already 180.

I am looking into swimming now and cycling.

QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jun 26 2006, 11:33 PM)
i find its easier to run on a treadmill with a picture of something i want infront of me, its like i'm chasing it. just this morning i had a picture of jessica alba right infront of the treadmill, it was like chasing a dream! fun stuff  tongue.gif who cares about the burn! jessica alba! RAWR!  rclxm9.gif  no not really.

i watch cnn when i run indoors, i alternate between running indoors and outdoors so i dont feel like a labrat in a running wheel. it makes life alot easier if you can think about something you like when you run, thinking about getting to the end of the run works well too.

making sure to drink enough water while running is important, especially when you're running outdoors, cramps can hit you very quickly and falling down sucks, injuries suck even more.

alot of people dont like running or jogging, its time consuming and like fleshwound says its boring, find something that fits you, that you like and you can set a goal on.

goals are important, for beginners or people who are working to lose weight set something that isnt too hard to achieve but ofcourse it musnt be a cake walk. when you achieve something that you worked hard for you'll start to feel good about yourself and then you can set new higher goals.
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Woah... great idea, Jessica Alba!! I would run after her too. Anyway, I dont have a threadmill at home. Dont intend to buy one until I move house after CNY next year. Waiting for my new home to be ready.

However, my mom bought this machine that was promoted by that Big Brother Jake dude. Sorta like a skiiing machine. Paddle with two bars that goes forth and back. I think that machine is pretty pathetic and it's put in the corridor with nothing to see while my TV is in my parents room or downstairs! Argh!!

Something that fits me and I like would be sex. Heard it burns a lot of calories right? But then later, my gf might end up paralyzed so that is my last option. For now, swimming, cycling, tracking the jungle is good. Jogging, I suck. Running, I dont last too long.

QUOTE(snorlax @ Jun 27 2006, 12:40 AM)
Sometimes it's not the shoe. I used to experience sole/heel pain too, but 2 years of martial art training has made it less noticeable. I don't really care what shoes i wear, since they wear out really fast, and it's much easier on the wallet to replace rm30-40 shoes every 6 months than rm200-300 shoes every 2 years. Barefoot also works. You might want to continue with your current arrangement for a few weeks, and see if the pain persists.

BTW, if you're buying branded shoes, somebody in the shop ought to know his/her shoe stuff. IMHO, since i worked in a shoe warehouse sale before, there isn't that much difference between brands, but you have to get the shoe type suited for your activity. Support, flexing and structure differ between shoe types due to the different activity requirements. Though i still think it's a waste getting branded shoes unless you need to train like a maniac.
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I still think I need a shoe hard enough so my feet dont get twisted as I track the jungle. You know all those "akar" of the trees and grass and holes on the floors. I need a really hard shoes that can protect my feet, rather than Nike Free 5.0, made of "kain" wan.

I thought of trying to run barefoot to see if it makes my legs stronger, my feet more rough to withstand different terrain but scared poke on glass or thorns. Too much consideration. Looking for a tough-built running shoe. Probably should look for training shoes instead.

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post Jul 9 2006, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jun 27 2006, 10:55 AM)
hyperventilation - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperventilation (love wikipedia, its great!)

keeping yourself hydrated is important, carry a small bottle of water with you and take sips as you run.

wow, 190 lol, thats high. dangerous to get that high, good thing you stopped.

try timberland i hear they have good shoes for jungle tracking.

oh and yeah sex is good for you, apparently if you have sex 5 times a week you're something like 20% less likely to have heart problems.
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Lol... thanks for teaching me so many things; side-stitch, hyperventilated, dehydration. Thing is I dont bring water when I go cross-training cause carrying a bottle around is quite troublesome for me. Dah lar, I myself is already so heavy.

Timberland for jungle tracking. Good idea. I will check it out. So far, I was impressed by the new series from Adidas. Nike shoes are ugly these days. Since my Nike Free 5.0 tore up on me, I start to doubt it's durability.

QUOTE(eddychstu @ Jun 27 2006, 10:58 AM)
try new ballance, the price is good and the comfort is there. u need a pair of good shoes to jog, not 500-buck-shoes to show off. laugh.gif
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Alrighty, thanks for your advice. I will go look into New Balance later today.

QUOTE(snorlax @ Jun 27 2006, 11:08 AM)
Ooo.....jungle trekking....personally i prefer tennis shoes like pallas jazz for that....inexpensive, and lets me feel what i'm running on. That's just my taste though. I agree something with thick soles would be good if you're running in different types of tracks since you never know what's going to be on the track. Barefoot is usually okay on tracks and sand. I'd wear shoes on grass or whatever i can't see clearly.
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Well, I thought about going barefoot and make the sole of my feet rough and strong but it's quite impossible for me. The place I go jungle trekking is a semi-cemetery on a hill that links all the way deep into another housing area's walking park.

From my house, I go up the reservoir, detour into the jungle (with tracks), passes by quite a few cemetery to go to another housing area's taman. Well, its not scary because plenty of people walk through there every evening. I dont stay on too late as when I come back from the park, I will have to pass by the cemetery again unless I detour and make a huge round (probably 4km long) through the housing area to the mainroad.

QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jun 27 2006, 11:11 AM)
if you run alot you'd notice there is a difference in higher end shoes and lower end shoes. its like comparing a perdana and a e55 amg, they'll both get you there but the e55 will do it in style and comfort.
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Great example... Good things are never cheap. Cheap things are never good.
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post Jul 9 2006, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(FleshWound @ Jun 27 2006, 12:34 PM)
lol, you're obviously overreaching yourself. Take it easy. Judge your progress by how much can you run for the first session. Strive to increase the distance every session but maintain the duration. Squeezing out every last ounce of effort is not good for your nervous system. Putting maximum effort in one intense burst is but not at the expense of injuring your body. Better to have 2 short session which taxes your cardio system momentarily than to have 1 session of run till you drop.

i experienced the heart thumping before too, along with headache and throbbing pain at the back of my head, uncomfortably cold lungs, cold sweats and having bright lights in my vision after being sedentary for a while and taking up jogging again (run till i drop variety). but i'll say it's certainly the worst way to work out.
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Thanks, I will keep that in mind. Really walking in the stadium is different from trekking the hills / jungle.

At the stadium, I can walk briskly and run a round or two. Max out, I can go for 10 rounds, 6 rounds before I start feeling tired. But in the hill / jungle trekking that I went, it was horrible. Much more taxing compared to the stadium.

Last few months, I used to go walking in this park on every Tues and Thurs, it wasnt half as bad even!
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post Jul 10 2006, 02:15 AM

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Thanks for your recommendations on Reebok but I have not worn a Reebok since early 90s when Reebok Pump was just out. I will look into their new models though. Thank you.

Nike koyak easily ler. I wanna try Adidas so badly now.
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QUOTE(LYFfan @ Jul 10 2006, 12:46 PM)
Hey pennywise.

I think if you do trekking, bets get hiking boots. The grip and the longevity is better. if u use running shoes e.g. Nike/Reebok/NB, sure koyak one. The terrain is too wearing on those materials. Hiking boots are best for those hilly terrains.They have good ankle guards also coz u tend to have uneven footing in hikes and the guards lock your ankles to prevent sprain/break if you slip/fall. This is from my experience in my 20s when I hiked a lot,did a few hikes in Nepal.Those were like 60 degree vertical climbs, like natural thighmaster exercise.

Actually, what do people spent on sports shoes nowadays? Last one I bought was a cheapo shoe from NB. About RM140 on sale. I have another spare one Power Zap-on (cheap ******* I am, only 55 bucks) for whatever activity laugh.gif Last time I went to this sports shoe place in KLCC people,esp teenagers were buying these fashionable sneakers for RM300 Rm400, not even useful.  Can't remember the name but start with S. Some USA brand.
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I dont think it's hiking la. It's a hill, with a water tanker (reservoir) on top, some plenty cemetery and a tracks all the way to the other side of the hill, there's a taman. I think crosss-training shoes are good enough for me. I am looking into Timberlands for now.
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post Jul 11 2006, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(cresstt @ Jul 11 2006, 02:55 PM)
I use rm17.90 white school shoes I bought at Mydin. Works great!!!! I ran for 3 kms everyday. The shoe will wear out in a year or so. I change and get a new one, once the sole is going south. No sweat tho, since the shoeis so cheap,...
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Fulamak, this one is kowkow good suggestions man! But errr... white school shoes dont have my size I think.

 

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