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 TAMIYA mini 4wd V13, TAMIYA MINI 4WD!!GET BACK ON TRACK!!

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ShinKen
post Dec 5 2013, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(chienoz @ Dec 5 2013, 08:38 AM)
Who said not smoothen bearing will not bring any effect on track? Did you test it? Do you ever see a Torqued Tune engine won on Power Dash engine car?  whistling.gif ..

As I realized, that car don't have smoothen bearing compared to the Torqued Tune car...
Dasa : I like your quote... Best Jump Car chassis in town.. Im lovin' It.. smile.gif
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Chienoz, how do you tune Torque Tuned Pro? I tried. but I cannot get that high-pitched bingit sound la icon_question.gif
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post Dec 5 2013, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(ShinKen @ Dec 5 2013, 10:28 AM)
Chienoz, how do you tune Torque Tuned Pro? I tried. but I cannot get that high-pitched bingit sound la  icon_question.gif
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I tune like others too.. Break in the motor.. smile.gif
High pitched? where did u hear high pitched torqued tune engine?
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post Dec 5 2013, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(chienoz @ Dec 5 2013, 10:47 AM)
I tune like others too.. Break in the motor.. smile.gif
High pitched? where did u hear high pitched torqued tune engine?
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never. only hear it in Sprint Dash, Power Dash, Mach Dash Pro, Atomic Tuned Pro, and Rev Tuned Pro. tried getting the 'high pitch' out of Torque Tune Pro, but cannot get la. memang like that or what? icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
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post Dec 5 2013, 01:41 PM

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post Dec 5 2013, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(chienoz @ Dec 5 2013, 08:38 AM)
Who said not smoothen bearing will not bring any effect on track? Did you test it? Do you ever see a Torqued Tune engine won on Power Dash engine car?  whistling.gif ..

As I realized, that car don't have smoothen bearing compared to the Torqued Tune car...
Dasa : I like your quote... Best Jump Car chassis in town.. Im lovin' It.. smile.gif
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Smooth bearing is important. But how much more smoother can be that much significant when everything is well tuned altogether.
There are many people who think that free spinning using fingers is enough to measure the car real performance on track when it's not.
I was particularly referring to those who thinks that their bearing is very smooth after dipping in zippo oil and doesn't want to relube them anymore because "see how long this bearing can spin wow!". But then there's the sound of grinding ball bearings inside lol.

For example, when you have wheel bearings, when on the track, the smoothness the wheel can spin is only up to how much the motor drag with all the gears attached together.

It's the same with cars. You can dyno on flywheel and get 200hp. But when you put it on an on-wheel dyno with all the wheels attached and car load, there is probably only like 160hp or so.

Get my point?

This post has been edited by soulfly: Dec 5 2013, 02:08 PM
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post Dec 5 2013, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Dec 5 2013, 01:56 PM)
Smooth bearing is important. But how much more smoother can be that much significant when everything is well tuned altogether.
There are many people who think that free spinning using fingers is enough to measure the car real performance on track when it's not.
I was particularly referring to those who thinks that their bearing is very smooth after dipping in zippo oil and doesn't want to relube them anymore because "see how long this bearing can spin wow!". But then there's the sound of grinding ball bearings inside lol.

For example, when you have wheel bearings, when on the track, the smoothness the wheel can spin is only up to how much the motor drag with all the gears attached together.

It's the same with cars. You can dyno on flywheel and get 200hp. But when you put it on an on-wheel dyno with all the wheels attached and car load, there is probably only like 160hp or so.

Get my point?
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I get your point bro.. smile.gif

What i mean is, smooth bearing is one of the important thing plus with roller positioning..
What u said is true but u cant 100 % compare it with real cars.. smile.gif

Normal car load forced the weight down to earth..
Tamiya Mini 4wd car load is forced to the track wall during cornering.. I have try the bearing with no lube, re lube a little bit and original factory lubricant.. The result is vary... But if u said sound like grinding, the bearing memang KAPUT dee.. I also have experienced new bearing from packaging KAPUT too.. hahaha

Its my 2 cents bro..
Sharing my opinion only..
I like your statement too about ur way of thinking.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(coklatua @ Dec 5 2013, 04:20 PM)
Who is Ahmad Masri Bin Roslan? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ShinKen @ Dec 5 2013, 11:33 AM)
never. only hear it in Sprint Dash, Power Dash, Mach Dash Pro, Atomic Tuned Pro, and Rev Tuned Pro. tried getting the 'high pitch' out of Torque Tune Pro, but cannot get la. memang like that or what?   icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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What is this high pitch torque tuned pro?

QUOTE(chienoz @ Dec 5 2013, 03:43 PM)
Its my 2 cents bro..
Sharing my opinion only..
I like your statement too about ur way of thinking..  thumbup.gif
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now share your motor breaking in technique brows.gif

I want to break in my light dash pro, but somehow I read somewhere that light dash don't really have any difference before/after breaking in.

This post has been edited by soulfly: Dec 5 2013, 04:47 PM
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post Dec 5 2013, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Dec 5 2013, 04:39 PM)
What is this high pitch torque tuned pro?
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I can't tell you because I haven't found it. it's either
1. impossible to get high pitch (because TTP is a low RPM but high torque motor)
2. my TTP kaput already sweat.gif

either one. not sure which. maybe both! hahaha

This post has been edited by ShinKen: Dec 5 2013, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(toa cheng @ Dec 4 2013, 11:30 PM)
beli la mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif

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Bos...ini brg still ada stock ke?
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QUOTE(ashrafrahman @ Dec 6 2013, 12:09 PM)
Bos...ini brg still ada stock ke?
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Guys malam ni jom lepak2 sambil fun race dekat setapak track?
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post Dec 6 2013, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Dec 5 2013, 01:56 PM)
Smooth bearing is important. But how much more smoother can be that much significant when everything is well tuned altogether.
There are many people who think that free spinning using fingers is enough to measure the car real performance on track when it's not.
I was particularly referring to those who thinks that their bearing is very smooth after dipping in zippo oil and doesn't want to relube them anymore because "see how long this bearing can spin wow!". But then there's the sound of grinding ball bearings inside lol.

For example, when you have wheel bearings, when on the track, the smoothness the wheel can spin is only up to how much the motor drag with all the gears attached together.

It's the same with cars. You can dyno on flywheel and get 200hp. But when you put it on an on-wheel dyno with all the wheels attached and car load, there is probably only like 160hp or so.

Get my point?
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After dipping in zippo oil, can just SINGER oil to relube?
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post Dec 6 2013, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Ji3MOON @ Dec 6 2013, 01:52 PM)
Guys malam ni jom lepak2 sambil fun race dekat setapak track?
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mlm ni ke?....I thought toa cheng ajak lepak mlm esok..dh la takda kete tuk high speed track lagi ni

@toa cheng .....alamak, br pkr nk swap bateri ni, tak pyh nk bagi cash blk
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QUOTE(jasonlkk @ Dec 6 2013, 02:39 PM)
After dipping in zippo oil, can just SINGER oil to relube?
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hehe...that's my current method also

sifu soulfly recommend this type of lubricant - Tamiya fluoropolymer compound. u may google this product:

QUOTE(soulfly @ Dec 4 2013, 04:10 PM)

I just use Tamiya fluoropolymer compound. As long as the bearings are smooth and doesn't make sound when rotating, then it's good for me.
I know people likes to free-spin rollers and see how long the spin could last, but on track it doesn't really make any difference because the weight of the car and drag from the motor, and the overall setup like roller size/positioning has more effect.


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QUOTE(ashrafrahman @ Dec 6 2013, 03:07 PM)
hehe...that's my current method also

sifu soulfly recommend this type of lubricant - Tamiya fluoropolymer compound. u may google this product:

QUOTE(soulfly @ Dec 4 2013, 04:10 PM)

I just use Tamiya fluoropolymer compound. As long as the bearings are smooth and doesn't make sound when rotating, then it's good for me.
I know people likes to free-spin rollers and see how long the spin could last, but on track it doesn't really make any difference because the weight of the car and drag from the motor, and the overall setup like roller size/positioning has more effect.
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I got use this also, but expensive cry.gif
RM25 per stick
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QUOTE(ashrafrahman @ Dec 6 2013, 03:01 PM)
mlm ni ke?....I thought toa cheng ajak lepak mlm esok..dh la takda kete tuk high speed track lagi ni

@toa cheng .....alamak, br pkr nk swap bateri ni, tak pyh nk bagi cash blk
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where u guys go get the Tamiya spanner for tightening the nuts? And how much?
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QUOTE(toa cheng @ Dec 6 2013, 03:59 PM)
kau cakap demam
malam ni ker?
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mmg la demam, tp otw recovering, kalau jadi mlm insyallah blh join (blh ambik brg2 skali) rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif ...tp ko yg ckp on mlm esok, mlm ni ko nk rehat

jap...ni nk confirmkn hal sedemikian di bwh! hmm.gif

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