Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
5 Pages  1 2 3 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Car Care and Detailing [V3], LYN Automotive Detailing Thread

views
     
roxx
post May 15 2014, 07:26 PM

T O P K E K
*****
Senior Member
749 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
Hi all sifu's.. Need your kind advise.. Been a silent reader for the past 2 days.. notworthy.gif

I have a car that has not been wax or polish throughout a year and another car that has not done anything for 10 years.. Therefore, water spots etched into the paint and swirl mark / scratches can be seen anywhere..

So i clay to remove the water spots but failed. So I bought Ultimate Compound in order to remove these 3 things..

Thus, is there any tips that I need to know before using UC? This is my first time detailing my car and i've read in meg online that 1 guy has messed up his car paint.. sweat.gif

Couldn't find any NXT 2.0 tech wax in Ace, can I use Gold Class premium quik wax for finishing?

Thanks in advance.. thumbup.gif
roxx
post May 15 2014, 07:57 PM

T O P K E K
*****
Senior Member
749 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 15 2014, 07:34 PM)
if you're using hand sponge, it's almost impossible to mess things up unless you use excessive force (which you shouldn't when it comes to detailing)

for gold class quik wax, i assume it's spray? carnauba based and then spray wax, it's not gonna last long i'd reckon. will need further comments from users who used it, i personally have not.

can consider going for ultimate paste/liquid waxes for a start, that one really last especially if you have a car that sits indoors mainly rolleyes.gif
*
Thanks.. Yes using hand.. No budget to buy DA.. doh.gif

Yes.. Spray type.. regret to buy that actually but no choice don't want to throw away.. beside UW, any other brands that suit best with UC for finishing? And does it best to finish with paste type wax?

roxx
post May 15 2014, 08:08 PM

T O P K E K
*****
Senior Member
749 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 15 2014, 08:00 PM)
compound is compounding, waxing is waxing, both are not really related so any brand/preference will do.

paste type wax *traditionally typically* last longer, and you would have less waste especially if you wax by hand compared to liquid which tends to get soak into the sponge.
*
Thanks for your feedback.

No wonder when i use QW the liquid soak into MF.. Aishhh...

In this case i better buy paste type wax.. At least last longer so that i don't have to keep waxing my car.. thumbup.gif

Actually I was hoping that i can get deep glossy shine on my car paint.. But need to remove those affected things first.. cry.gif

roxx
post May 15 2014, 08:17 PM

T O P K E K
*****
Senior Member
749 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 15 2014, 08:12 PM)
try this:
after applying paste wax, use your qw as a "topper"

that way you get better/more even shine (paste wax can be uneven especially if you applied too thick of a layer/not buffed off properly) and the quik wax will serve as a "shield" on your existing wax which will prolong it's durability smile.gif
*
Hey Thanks a lot!! Didn't think about that.. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

Tomorrow will be my first day to do compounding.. Hope i didn't mess up the car paint thumbup.gif


roxx
post May 16 2014, 09:34 AM

T O P K E K
*****
Senior Member
749 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(colinwong89 @ May 16 2014, 04:57 AM)
Finally got my Opti-Seal and HydrO2 from a friend who got back from the US - I have no idea why but the Opti-Seals we get here are all cloudy which ain't good... but this one came in clear as water. As for HydrO2, the GF's car will be put to the test smile.gif

Also, anyone knows where to get nice brushes for washing wheels and wheel spokes?
*
Saw in ace hardware and jusco got.. The choices is yours.. thumbup.gif
roxx
post May 17 2014, 12:22 PM

T O P K E K
*****
Senior Member
749 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(N33d @ May 16 2014, 10:49 AM)
good luck bro
if possible show ur work biggrin.gif
*
Has been raining for 2 days whenever i want to start the process.. Huhuhu

This is my things for my car.. Any feedback appreciated..

P/S no money buy expensive stuffs..

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

roxx
post May 17 2014, 05:33 PM

T O P K E K
*****
Senior Member
749 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(mirage81 @ May 17 2014, 01:51 PM)
If ur budget allow add 1 more bottle of AIO will be much more better.. Cheers! smile.gif
*
Can u recommend me AIO product? Sorry noob here.. notworthy.gif

Next target > to get OPT product.. looking at the glossy paint make me drool.gif drool.gif
roxx
post May 17 2014, 09:48 PM

T O P K E K
*****
Senior Member
749 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(mirage81 @ May 17 2014, 06:18 PM)
Currently im using Duragloss 501 and CarLack68' systematic care..very recomended..mayb u can ask sifus here for others products.. smile.gif
*
Where do u get duragloss and Carlack?

So far Duragloss got one selling in old Klang Road.. But they said most of the product out of stock..
roxx
post May 18 2014, 03:58 PM

T O P K E K
*****
Senior Member
749 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
My car color is Aster grey and 1 year never done waxing / polishing before. Paint is stock (not re-painted)

After using UC, water spots totally disappear and swirl mark / scratches hiding into the paint which is great.. However, I noticed several white spots appear after buffing.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


What is the cause of these? These white spots appear all over the car..

Steps that i took:

- Wash

- Clay

- UC

- Paste Wax

Hope experts can explain / help me solving these problem.. Thanks notworthy.gif
roxx
post May 18 2014, 11:06 PM

T O P K E K
*****
Senior Member
749 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(N33d @ May 18 2014, 10:36 PM)
I am no expert, just some guessing,
Might be stone chipped spot on your paint that caught all of the UC and paste wax residue inside
*
Before UC no stone chipped on the paint.. I have inspect every panel to detect any swirl marks / water spots but no stone chipped. After UC and buffing suddenly can see the white spots.. And the white spots appear at the area i do UC..

Do u mean that the stone chipped was there before the UC process?

I guess I was having the same problem with this guy > UC leaving tiny chips
roxx
post May 22 2014, 02:02 PM

T O P K E K
*****
Senior Member
749 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
Out of curiosity..

Anybody planning to do group buy for Makita 9227c or Dewalt DWP849x?

If yes, I want to join.. smile.gif
roxx
post May 22 2014, 08:19 PM

T O P K E K
*****
Senior Member
749 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ May 22 2014, 04:24 PM)
Anybody want to take a part?

1 bottle rm70 , 4 bottle rm180

worth for 4 bottle its become rm45 per bottle

Now got 2 empty slot because i'm booking 2 slot...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQSAhc-2h-E
*
Just wondering.. I have ultimate compound. Do I need this as monthly or quarterly polishing?

This post has been edited by roxx: May 22 2014, 08:27 PM
roxx
post May 22 2014, 09:28 PM

T O P K E K
*****
Senior Member
749 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(g88 @ May 22 2014, 09:14 PM)
your Almera still sparking why always polish ?
UC is more aggressive than Osren AIO
*
Meaning I can use this monthly since it's All In One, right?

Sorry noob here.. sweat.gif
roxx
post May 23 2014, 12:18 AM

T O P K E K
*****
Senior Member
749 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(haushinka @ May 22 2014, 11:31 PM)
I was thinking the same too as at the moment im using carnauba wax and with our current weather and looking at the beading on my car now (almost a week my car protected by the wax), i highly doubt the wax could last more than a month on my car...

Correct me if im wrong..but to apply the aio monthly to strip off the current wax prior to apply a new 1 should be safe right?
*
AIO meant to strip off the current wax? Doesn't AIO meant to all in one which protecting the paint?
roxx
post May 23 2014, 02:19 AM

T O P K E K
*****
Senior Member
749 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(GRexer @ May 23 2014, 01:40 AM)
Well, for starters, I'm no Sifu, just another guy who does his own cars and some.

Conventional wax are not permanent coatings, permanent coatings are stuff like the OptiCoat, OptiGuard, Cquartz, anything that, forms a permanent bond onto the surface, and crystallizes(from liquid turns to glass/solid) if you leave it in open air.

Well, it's always recommended to clay as a form of old wax removal and also to remove any contaminants before a new coat of wax/sealant. Also, well, we won't want to seal the contaminants along onto our paint work when we apply the new layer of wax/sealant, right? But, if your car was recently clayed and waxed/sealed(maybe say about 2-3 months? Actually it's hard to judge other than to feel the surface after a wash), then, a cleaner wax is good enough to remove old layer and apply a new layer.
*
Was thinking to get opti-coat after this.. However if i apply coating then got scratch, can i use ultimate compound to remove the scratch? Will it affect my coat?

And if I accidentally use clay bar on the coat, will it remove the coating or can i wax my car after several months?

Understand from your statement that opti-coat forms a permanent bond. Hence does it mean that this will add a layer on top of existing clear coat?

Sorry for noob question here.. notworthy.gif
roxx
post May 23 2014, 02:44 AM

T O P K E K
*****
Senior Member
749 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ May 23 2014, 02:28 AM)
This one rm66 for 500ml..

http://www.menzerna.com/en/company/news/ne...s%5Bmonth%5D=11

now im trying tp get best price if group buy...
*
How I wish you can do group buy RB.. sweat.gif
roxx
post May 23 2014, 08:28 AM

T O P K E K
*****
Senior Member
749 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
OMG.. Using TW super hard shell leaves bad powdery residue.. sad.gif
roxx
post May 23 2014, 10:46 AM

T O P K E K
*****
Senior Member
749 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(KrisMas @ May 23 2014, 09:52 AM)
You're using too much.....
*
Yes. I think so..

Should do less layer.. Thanks master.. tongue.gif notworthy.gif
roxx
post May 23 2014, 12:00 PM

T O P K E K
*****
Senior Member
749 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
krismas let me get this accordingly..

Im going to DIY coating. Thus need to know some info before proceed.

My sister's car has not been done anything either polish or waxing for 8 years. Hope there's still clear coat on her paint. So step that i am planning to do:

- Wash
- Clay
- Wash
- Ultimate compound using RB
- should i use IPA to wipe down the UC oil residue?
- coating (either permanon or OPT coat)
- Finishing (what kind of finishing I can use? wax? detailing? sealant)

Was planning to buy carlack68 SC and LLS but scared the SC might strip down the coating. For LLS can be use for finishing, right?

Need your kind advise in this matter. Thanks
roxx
post May 23 2014, 05:20 PM

T O P K E K
*****
Senior Member
749 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 23 2014, 03:36 PM)
use only small amounts.

ps: i started out with TW hard shell, and i STILL have at least have half a can haven't finish sweat.gif
planning to detail my iswara as i haven't washed it for more than half a year sweat.gif
*
Yes. Totally forgot about this. I'm using A LOT of wax during waxing. Lesson learned.. notworthy.gif


QUOTE(KrisMas @ May 23 2014, 03:45 PM)
8 year old car that hasn't been polished...clear coat should still be there. It won't wear out over time, but it *could* deteriorate (oxidize, peel, etc.) to the point where the only way you can get it shiny again is to repaint. I'm quite confident, under normal conditions (not exposed to extremely harsh environment or treatment), you'd still be able to 'restore' the paint to better conditions.

Now, to the steps.

- wash - right
- clay - still on track
- wash - depends...if you're using some sort of quick detailer for clay lube you might not need to wash again. A simple wipe down again with the same quick detailer could do the job. But if you're using shampoo mix as clay lube, then you'd need to wash the car down again.
- Ultimate compound using RB - still on track but with what pad? And errr....I hope you know what you're doing. If use with a compounding pad (or wool pad), it would be a very aggressive combination and you'd bee cutting a lot of the clear coat. Just be careful and check/inspect regularly.

Thanks for reminding me on the pad. I was unaware on this. Was thinking that to compound > need to use compounding pad..

So far you have the right idea there. But after compounding with UC there would most probably be compounding marks as UC//RB is quite an aggressive combo. You should carefully inspect for compounding marks, buffer trails, holograms (google them, plenty of pictures/illustrations on how they look like) and if you see them, the next step is to 'step down' to a less aggressive combo (change to a milder polish like Ultimate Polish with a less aggresive pad like a polishing/finishing pad) to remove those.

Afterwards, you'd most probably would need to wash the car again to remove all the polishing dust, then only you do a wipe-down with IPA or the like. Thoroughly inspect the car again for anything that you missed or any area you missed out. If all are in order, next step is to apply the coating.

Will washing the car after polishing will create mar on the paint? Noted on the IPA step  thumbup.gif

I haven't use Carlack68 products before. But, from their descriptions, SC is an AIO and LLS is a sealant. If you want to use the SC it should be after using a finishing polish and BEFORE applying the coating, but you'd still need to do a thorough wipe-down to remove the protection that it left behind. Personally, I think it's a little redundant. And LLS should go after the coating.

I'm quite confused on this. From my understanding coating suppose to protect the paint thus if i coat after using wax it will flush out together with wax within certain time just like what other wax does. Correct me if i'm wrong on this.  sweat.gif

Depending on what type of coating you plan to use, you might or might not need to put on the LLS on. For this, you'd need to check with the seller or anybody else who have experience with Permanon or Opti Coat whether it's safe or not to put on a sealant on top. Personally, if SC could effect a coating, I don't think that coating is even worth getting... ph34r.gif

Am planning to have a repellant effect + glossy paint on her car. Will check further on the coating thingy with the seller. Thanks a lot KrisMas for your clarificationthumbup.gif  notworthy.gif
*

5 Pages  1 2 3 > » Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0712sec    0.46    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 5th December 2025 - 01:58 AM