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efaceninja
post Aug 22 2014, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Aug 22 2014, 06:53 PM)
Whoever want to stock up Meguiar's product or get pressure washer, go try your luck here:

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also noticed in Meg Malaysia FB put that got 20% at quite a lot AEON stores until 1st Sep. but many ppl comment/complaint there no stock
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post Aug 22 2014, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 22 2014, 06:32 PM)
sifu, new thread version liao (>2500 posts) tongue.gif
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V4~! rclxms.gif
efaceninja
post Aug 25 2014, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Aug 25 2014, 07:39 AM)
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I'm soooo going there.
i was already planning to go Hypercoat to get the D155 already next month. Do they sell detailer lines at the sepang event?? 30% yo???
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post Aug 25 2014, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Aug 25 2014, 04:52 PM)
For me, if the sealant can provide deep gloss, I would be very interested.

But it seems that now it has become a trend that, distributors don't intend to sell their products to end user.... hmmm...very puzzling indeed.

1. Are they worried that end-user dunno how to apply hence tarnish their image?
2. Or they simply think that this will kill their market??

I'll go for latter and they should be well aware that everyone sells windowing tinting film too.
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i think it is reason no.1. think about it, before i frequent this thread, i used to think that applying wax right after car wash is okay. i've no idea about detailing clay, no idea about compounding, no idea about relationship of polishing and waxing. i just want to shine my car, and ppl say wax liaw car sure shine, and so i go and buy wax and apply.

if lets say a newbie's car is heavily soiled/contaminated and need to be clayed. he go buy this spanky expensive sealant, applied it. and he touch the paint surface. still very rough!! and not very shiny. and thereafter he vow to never buy that sealant again.

i got to say that amongst my friend and colleague here, no one has ever heard before what a clay for car is. their usual response is "take it for polish la". last time i was searching high and low for a clay bar (after i research for quite a while on google). it was like no one ever known there's such thing. i once came to a car painting workshop, they have a painting chamber one, total area quite big. the foreman/painting sifu there ask me i need a polish? i say i'm looking for a clay bar, the kind of clay that can use on paint surface and will stick the bonded contaminant on the clay, and the paint will be very smooth. he then replied me, what is that thing? nevermind that thing, just give me polish. what contaminant will also be polished away one.

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post Aug 26 2014, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Aug 26 2014, 07:38 AM)
I think is not free admission event, please double confirm from their website first before going in case the ticket price too expensive.
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But go into the bazzar area also need admission ticket? Crap its RM 100 for 3 days entry.
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post Aug 26 2014, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 25 2014, 04:45 PM)
i probably wouldn't need aerospace technology (lol) when my "cheaper" ULW/BSD combo is still lasting until this very day laugh.gif
the durability amazes me till no end when i don't even follow proper maintenance due to laziness tongue.gif
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you amazes me as well, since CNY you apply the ULW. rclxms.gif
but i do concure, i myself has been washing my car weekly since i applied ULW, when washing, got take photo on water beading and the shininess after drying every week (for my own syiokness blush.gif ). still beading good and still very shiny rclxms.gif

now slowly venture into tyre/wheel cleaning. before that i just rinse with shampoo mix and wash/wipe with MF cloth, and that's it. Only now slowly slowly realise the wheel cleaning you guys talk about ain't not just rinse and wipe only. crap those proper wheel brush ain't no cheap at all! and many dedicated wheel cleaner products there.. also aint cheap. for now, planning to get degreaser FX only..

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post Aug 27 2014, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 26 2014, 11:04 PM)
the main thing with wheels, are brake dust.

so i strongly advise using something that's catered to wheels instead of a degreaser
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hmmm, degreaser no good for wheel? or degreaser not strong enough for brake dust? those catered for wheels meaning those have acidic content ah?

QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 27 2014, 08:49 AM)
roxx, my routine/product for wheels - degreaser for tyres and apc for wheels & wheel barrels, *almost* each and every wash. Once in a while (depending on the conditions - roughly around once a month) I use a wheel cleaner (either Megs Wheel Brightener or Sonax Xtreme Wheel Cleaner) to deep clean. And yeah, brushes sold that are dedicated for detailing are quite expensive. I use whatever I can afford and improvise on others. Tips: soft bristles baby bottle brushes comes in handy for cleaning wheel barrels especially those narrow gaps between the brake calipers and the inner wheel face.
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i noted that you mention degreaser for tyre, APC for wheel. is degreaser not really good for wheel? i thought degreaser is just a stronger form of APC, i was planning on using degreaser FX for both tyre and wheel one. and good idea that once a while clean wheel with dedicated wheel cleaner.. GF already started noting my recent expenses on car care products lol. for the wheel brush, i just got this last week. it looks abit like the expensive one. the 'bristle' is actually some kind of foam, feels like polystyrene foam. and most importantly, it can be bended/mould to shape too haha. the effectiveness is quite okay i would say. but the durability is very very questionable because on first use. already dropped a few of those 'bristle'.
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efaceninja
post Aug 27 2014, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 27 2014, 07:54 PM)
not really acidic, it's just chemical that reacts to irons/metal particles.
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ok, got it.
but but.. i've to stop keep growing my shopping list blink.gif sad.gif

QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 27 2014, 08:07 PM)
Degreaser not so effective in removing stubborn/embedded brake dust.
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ok noted. how about APC for wheel? (just any apc) compared to degreaser i mean. I hope i don't get it wrong that degreaser & APC is similar just that degreaser is stronger??

the degreaser FX (going to get it soon from osren rolleyes.gif ) i planned to use on interior also, for the plastic/leather dashboard. then i'll get Fabric Cleaner specially for fabric seats, ie those once spray on, a little bit of product is likely to left inside even though wipe it with damp cloth.. so far actually has not done any serious detailing on interior yet, just read and watch many youtube how-to videos haha, like autogeek & wetshine and some others. blush.gif icon_rolleyes.gif so a little advice from sifus is much appreciated notworthy.gif

oh and the degreaser also later plan to wash engine bay when i'm confident enough.

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post Aug 28 2014, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(LazyJin @ Aug 27 2014, 10:56 PM)
Degreaser is better at cleaning tires, wheel wells, and engine, vs APC. Some suggest weekly tire and wheel maintenance with APC. Whip out the degreaser / wheel brightener / Tar X / Iron X for tougher jobs?
Edit : Replace Tar X with any tar remover, replace Iron X with a decontamination cleaner like Sonax Full Effects Wheel Cleaner.
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ook smile.gif degreaser + wheel brightener / iron x + tar remover. problem with frequenting this thread: shopping list have to kee growing and growing and growing cry.gif moneyflies.gif

QUOTE(scoutfai @ Aug 28 2014, 09:07 AM)
DAISO Sg Wang?
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rclxms.gif correct! not sg wang la, but it is daiso's one. RM 5.

QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 28 2014, 10:02 AM)
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1. Megs APC - works best in cleaning 'organic' soiling, eg. dirt, mud, etc. which are insoluble in water. It's just an alkaline detergent solutions that contains loads of surfactants to 'loosen' and 'suspend' the solids so that they could be flushed from the surface to be cleaned.

2. Megs SD - works best in cleaning petroleum based soiling and able to emulsify oil, grease, etc. better than APC, but doesn't work as good as APC for organic soiling.

3. Megs WB - works best in cleaning brake dust. Since it's acidic and contains liquid ammonia - which is a good solvent for in-organic compounds, eg. metal. Still able to clean soiling and *some* oil/grease, but not as good as APC or SD.
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woh very good analogy on the 'organic' soiling & 'petroleum' based soiling there. Osren has Multi-Clean? didn't see it on their website, maybe will ask them directly when i visit them. but anyway, i saw their description of their Fabric Cleaner says can clean pvc panels, vinyl dashboard, etc.. so i guess i'll use this to detail interior.. and degreaser for tyres and wheels. dedicated wheel cleaners... next time first la, really need to control my spending here. but i really appreciate your lengthy insights on these notworthy.gif will keep in mind next time when my shopping list can grow laugh.gif *bookmarking the post

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