When you have rear drum brake, then you would feel my pain too. 

Not brake dust lah....

But front rims damn dirty, rear rims very shinny.

this thread is like 100 pg long and its V3.. crawled a few dozen page than eye blurred already.  so i just gonna list out my method of paint care so far and let sifu sifus comment if i do anything no good and or can improve somewhere..

1.  Wash: in the beginning i wash with PG car wash shampoo.  the later switch to PG wash & wax.  and now Meg Ulti wash & wax.. just wash with MF cloth.  after wash, i rinse with water & wipe dry with chamois cloth.

2.  clay: i first started claying since 1 yr ago?  the first time i clay felt really different.  can feel the clay is rubbing off all the particles on the surface.  then my subsequent claying session can feel nothing much to be clay off dy. so i actually clayed less and less (longer interval and actually less energy needed for each session).  and normally i clay together with washing, meaning i use the car wash shampoo water mixture as my lubricant for clay.  using PG wonder clay by the way.

3.  polish: i don't do polishing as my car is light coloured (harder to see swirl), and i don't observe any noticeable swirl or scratch yet on the paint.  The product that i've close to polishing is the PG polymer sealant.  it says don't use on clear surface and can remove light oxidized paint, so i think it is slightly abrasive.  so i think its like a 2in1 polish and wax/sealant thing.  last time i used this was 3-4 months ago, applied with PG cotton polishing cloth.

4. wax: at first i bought off the shelve KIT metallic paste wax from supermarket.  really the shine effect is quite minimal.  then i moved on to the PG polymer sealant as mentioned above.  the shine effect is about the same.  i went to polymer sealant because i don't want to wax every week because its so time consuming.  and just recently.. switched to meg Ulti liquid wax.  the shine is... fabulous!!  read from this thread that this ULW just need to spread a really really thin layer, no need use so much product.  i did and is happy with the result, while not wasting too much product. 

5. tyre: i usually just wash with a sponge. wait it dry, then spray the PG tyre spray, then wipe with sponge again or else it will look too wet.  normally can last for a week or so.

6. rim: ermm... i just normal wash it only with MF cloth.  previous few post was talking about rim protection & the products. well.. i keep telling myself don't fall for this poison.... yet.

7. interior: previously just wipe off the dust with a wet MF cloth.  recently started using MEG ultimate protectant..

8. windscreen: just try to clay it sometimes during washing.

9. finally, i throw all the applicator pads, MF cloth, polish cloth, chamois cloth, all cloth, into the washing machine and wash with normal cloth washing detergent.

sidenote: this MEG discount recently is really burning a whole in my wallet faster.. already bought 4 of their things recently..  

wanna ask.. is MEG's product is really as good/worth as their reputation?  is there any other brands available here that is as good as MEG for the same/lower amount of price?

1. so... it means i need to buy another shampoo again???  
2. okiee noted.  so it also means i'm able to use clay to remove any residue LSP prior i moving on to other brand next time??  btw, what's LSP??  i guess is Last Shine Protectant? Last Step Protectant?
3. saw you bought a spot light a few post back.. i know there's probably big some swirls around the car.. but since i can't see it, then in my mind it ain't there   if i saw the swirls.. then hand itchy itchy wanna buy polish again.. and then need to do extra step for polishing.. wait till i eventually invest on a DA someday...
4. okiee noted.
5. ermm.. what do you mean? i normally wash the car body first, then wash the rim & tyre worr
6. my car stock brake only.  actually the inner side of the rim is almost never really being washed, because my hand can't reach in..
8. actually i once use the rain x alike product (forgot the name, cheapo one la) for my windscreen.  then there's one time i accidentally drop a few drops of the thing onto my bonet without myself realising it.  now it created a dark colour strip stain on the paint.  imagine a dark coloured ink running down a strip on your bonet.  i tried to polish it with polish compound, but can't.  i felt like i was scrapping my clear coat off and so eventually i forget about trying to remove it and, never use any windscreen rain repellent coating again..
9. okiee.

even if Meg is cheapo product in stateside, i still hope that it is still far better than most off the shelve product in supermarket?  Will take note on Sonax & Osren brand.. sometimes it is the problem if availability, can i buy those things online??  or where can i get them easily..  have you used Sonax's wax before? the Xtreme Brilliant Wax 1, and Osren's Synergized Crystal Rock?  how are those compare to ULW and what are their prices?  all these 3 i believe belong in the same category.. synthetic polymer and natural wax combo which is designed/advertised to shine like natural wax, and durable like synt poly sealant.

so bad that you mention sonax also got promo now... hand itchy itchy.. the BSD sounds really nice.. is it considered as final final spray coat after wax?? but i dunno where can i get sonax products yet.. arrghh i must tahan until my Meg products is finished...   pluss i still got meg UQW..

Just saw this at a petronas petrol station. Didn't know that petronas brand has wax and also polish too??? Anyone tried before?? Lols.

Appearantly its a spray wax, like the meg UQW. The usage instructions printed at the back also similar: clean car, dry car, spray wax, wipe dry.  And also noticed that it only had english and german language on it, no BM.  So... developed in german???
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steal usage?? what you mean?

crawled some pages on V2.. you guys were mentioning Meg D156 Detailer Synthetic X-Press™ Spray Wax which comes in 1 gallon.. essentially a same function/product just with different scent.  mind sharing where can i get this and how much is it??    or can i get a cheaper alternative like from osren brand??

btw, UQW smells really nice i thought i was spraying fragrance.

Have you try ?

how come I cannot tag people with the @ now?

Lols i see what you mean. You mean ppl (maybe the store keeper) take it, spray spray on their car, then put it back to shelve?? But the one i saw still looks unopened la.

Anyway, anyone elses tried??

Quazacolt testing testing.
YES success!
Thanks for the guide.

I see you already successfully tag him and isn't that consider remember?

    Just share my new toy  == >  Damage = Rm 699.00 (Karcher K2.98M)  K2-7 raya gift 

I think the reason I care about it now because I suffer from the effect, and the effect is something I can notice it. My shampoo effectiveness reduced, and it happened quite a lot of time recently compare to old time. I don't know why, but this change of water quality definitely dislike it.
If the water softening system is like RM3K and one year change once only, then yah actually I will invest into it. because not only can use for wash car, other home usage also will be benefited. But heck now I know that it needs to be recharged every few days interval and the recharge concentrate salt solution need to buy also, then it becomes too unaffordable for my current financial ability. Even if I won a lottery and can own the machine at the beginning it is still unaffordable in the long run. So got to call off the idea, at least for now.

Another reason is simply for sake of knowledge & curiosity only. Knowing more will not harm mah, right? 
Maybe one day in future got salesman come promote me water softening system and claim something like buy once never need to invest into recharge the resin again, then I know this is a con.

i've questions about the MF cloths.  basically, how do you determine if a MF cloth is good for the car?  purpose is for buffing and/or washing.  Or maybe general occasional wiping (like wiping off bird poops).

so... how do we determine if a MF cloth is good for car?

if we wax from time to time it will be same as coated what?

Those costing shop will tell you warranty for 5 years. will give free maint (but some need to pay for the material use).

Need to pay 1 lump sum for the 5 years service. How many can last for > 5 years? In this case, as well as go waxing/polish in diff shop better?!?

just want to ask some basics how does a average wax hold up ? 2 to 3 weeks ? incl raining & washing in between.

Due my car cant really hold up wax. 2 to 3 times in a rain, wax gone already. brands i tried 3M, Meg, & nanowax.

worst is the nanowax, 1 time in a rain, 80% of the waxes gone (just waxed a day before) 

is it because of my car paint quality ? ( i respray once ) or i have to do something before do waxing ?

*Proton S.Neo
*send for shops to do polish & wax

Thanks ~

  feb till now is like... almost half year, and the ULW still holding up good??? or is it the BSD that you keep applying (weekly??) i wonder is it the ULW that's protecting or the BSD  

wow that is impressive

well i tried before i asked them for a polish service before the wax, well below is the details

Paid RM 200 + - for detail polish & wax <inc clay & compounding etc> 3M products
for this packages it holds the wax longest about 3 weeks plus before i have to send for waxing again but as time goes on it holds around a week or twice only. (this is about year ago)

recently paid RM 170 for simple polish & nanowax  <had to paid so much due they incl the nano coat>
this is the worst, finish today a day later park outside and heavy rain, there goes my wax. 

what seems to be a problem ? shop pipu skill problem lel ?