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TSKrisMas
post Apr 7 2014, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Apr 7 2014, 09:55 AM)
True....but I wonder whether they're the same product since it's under EnviroShield and ES=Maddetailer.
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post Apr 8 2014, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Apr 7 2014, 09:55 AM)
I'm talking about this one:

http://www.maddetailer.com/product-categor...ss-coating.html
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post Apr 9 2014, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(cashloke @ Apr 9 2014, 02:04 PM)
One question: What is the method that you guys used when washing the car?
1) Like a bangla holding a wash mitt and rotating clockwise like crazy?
2) Wash in a straight line with shampoo/water spraying on the mitt ?
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Without getting too technical....I wash in a straight line.... tongue.gif
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post Apr 10 2014, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Apr 10 2014, 08:37 AM)
Anybody know how much this one?

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TSKrisMas
post Apr 11 2014, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Apr 10 2014, 10:08 PM)
I have never seen the green and tan color 3M masking tape on shelf in any hardware store before. Are you talking about these:

I've only seen them in a couple of stores only. One of them is back home/kampung in KB (Kota Bharu). I got mine from them. Not sure whether it's the same with the picture that you posted but the product code is (was?) 233+.

Is it these different color 3M masking tape built for different purpose, like cement surface, wood surface, plastic surface, etc?

I did some reading up quite some time ago about them. Can't remember exactly but 3M makes lots and lots of masking tape, some for general use and some for specific use. I remember the masking tapes for automotive use are rated for their adhesive strength (how strong it'll stick) and safe release period (how long the tape can safely stick to the surface before the adhesive gave way and would either transfer to the surface or loose the adhesiveness). There are some other technical info about them but can't remember already....been too long.

What about the black color, automotive masking tape? this sounds more like purposely designed for automotive surfaces. Used before?

Nope. Never heard or seen those type before.

Since masking tape is a common consumable product for detailing hobby, do you guys here always have group buy activity for this type of quality masking tape?

We did once for the green 233+ ones...loooong time ago. But now my KB guy only have them in 3/4" size. I can't remember exactly how much but the 3/4" size definitely cost me less than RM15/pcs the last time I bought them, which is early this year.

By the way, by KB you mean Kota Bahru ?

Yup
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post Apr 11 2014, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(popcorn1212 @ Apr 11 2014, 09:46 AM)
hi all sifu..my white car being scratch by other car in the parking lot..left a long red mark on my bumper...any recommended workshop to fix it in subang /pj area.? no dent...nid to respray or polish will do?
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'Red' marks? hrrmm....sounds like went into the primer already....it won't polish out & need to respray.
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post Apr 11 2014, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(tzuen @ Apr 11 2014, 01:18 PM)
Hei Guys.

What's the best recommendation car waxing/ protection for a brand new car?
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Anything from any of the established brands like Meguiars, Duragloss, Optimum, 3M, Mothers, Soft99, etc...etc...etc... ph34r.gif
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post Apr 14 2014, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Apr 13 2014, 09:01 PM)
Want to ask do you guys use only one pad for one and only one product?
For instance, you have a cutting pad A for product A, pad A since bought new only used with product A.
Then now you purchased some product B, which is same cutting power like product A. Do you wash your pad A thoroughly and use pad A for product B, or you would invest into another new cutting pad B for product B only?
And then so on and so forth for product C, product D, etc... (I cant imagine how many pads will end up in your room, but this seems to be encouraged in western country forum community to avoid contamination).
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If you wash the pad, you should be ok to use the pad again with any product. Been doing that and don't notice any significant/major issues.
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post May 2 2014, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(N33d @ May 1 2014, 10:10 PM)
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I have read that some even recommend to wash it with dish wash liquid to increase its durability as some car shampoo might have gloss enhancer or other 'particle' that is oppositely charged. And because of that, it will attract and lift permanon from the paint surface, stick together and wash away
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Wahh....so easy to be 'lift from the paint surface' and 'wash away'.....doesn't sound to be a very durable product to me. Anyway, haven't tried their latest Diamond or Platinum 'coating', but I've tried the [for the sake of me can't remember what it's called back then] quite a few years back. Couldn't get it to last more than 2 weeks in Klang Valley's weather. Maybe it's my method but, even applying it straight (without diluting) it still couldn't get past the 1 month mark without the beading going *almost* flat. But, I have to say, it's a really easy product (back then) when you'd only need to dilute it with water and use it after a wash (like a QD) to keep the beading going....though that would mean RM1xx worth of product finished in less than one year....OCWax lasted longer (and looks better) for me so I switched to that afterwards.
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post May 2 2014, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(Kumar_46 @ May 2 2014, 10:50 AM)
Hi guys,I want to buy polishing compund and polish.i already own a buffing machine and use to work in paint shop many years ago.Back then I would use
autocolour compound and meguiars m85 and finally m83.Do this product still available if don't what other products you guys will recommend.Thanks and its just for my prime mover😊
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I still see M85 & M83 selling at one of the authorised Meg supplier. M105/M101 & M205 is currently the most popular pair. I'm able to tackle *almost* anything with those two, from removing sanding marks to finishing. The only exception (for me) would be finishing hologram free on very soft paint with M205...still just can't get it right (referring to using them with a rotary polisher).
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post May 6 2014, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(lonewolf @ May 5 2014, 11:47 PM)
anybody have opticoat 2.0 / dodo infinity sealant / cquartz for sale?
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Not sure whether you can get the OC or CQuartz locally, but I'm sure you can can get DDJ Infinity Sealant from the DDJ Malaysia and I 'heard' that it's currently selling at a reduced price...just had a brief TT with him a couple of days ago while picking up a few stuffs from him.... tongue.gif
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post May 7 2014, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ May 7 2014, 08:12 AM)
They have a shop or just operate online business? There's an address on their FB though.
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Erm...get in touch with him in fb la. Nice guy to deal and chat with. If it does matter, personally, he's a trusted seller....well....at least by me la.
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post May 9 2014, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(kww @ May 7 2014, 09:30 PM)
Anyone can tell where to get 22ple?
Thanks.
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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ May 8 2014, 01:28 PM)
not available here.

u need to order from uk or taobao.

cheaper channel is from taobao.
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QUOTE(vx55 @ May 9 2014, 08:26 AM)
Hi, I am the selected representative for 22PLE in Malaysia.
I will PM you for details.

Also, avoid Taobao or the so called China version of 22PLE, they are fakes.
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post May 19 2014, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(ob8 @ May 18 2014, 10:44 PM)
what happen to carguys.com.my? anyone know?
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They've close down.

QUOTE(scoutfai @ May 19 2014, 07:34 AM)
Just a question, is IPA with 15% concentration (ratio of 99% IPA to water by volume) sounds too less to you guys for the purpose of striping the paint in preparation for LSP application?
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Depending on what are you're trying to strip. Megs M205 would require something a little bit stronger dilution than that. Some AIOs (like DG501) are also quite strong. My regular mix is at 25% for wax/sealant application and 50% for coating application. Just a side note: multiple applications of weaker mix is better/safer than single application of stronger mix.
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post May 19 2014, 03:58 PM

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The foam for the LC backing plate (rotary) have quite a list of failures, I personally had 3 of them disintegrated and crumbled and I don't even do any commercial details (i.e. no heavy use). Not sure about the DA ones though. Personally, I'd go for Notty's just for that reason only.....
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post May 19 2014, 05:30 PM

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They're the hard, thick and dense type of foam....deteriorate over time...even if not used. Check with Hendry@Osren. He has the LC ones. Not sure if anybody I know of got the Notty...best bet would be to ask Kah Wai as he's quite close to Jeremy@Shinecars.
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post May 20 2014, 08:45 AM

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Nice finish....great start...I love dripping wet black coloured car. The thing about the Bosch ROB//LC Orange//UC is you'd need quite a few passes to remove deeper defects like water spot etchings, bird poo etchings and scratches. Not to worry cuz sometimes, even with a rotary, you'd need more than one pass for them. 9 hrs is not bad to finish doing 2 steps on one whole car with the Bosch. It would have taken me 2 days..... sweat.gif
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post May 20 2014, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(haushinka @ May 20 2014, 09:38 AM)
Thanks for the compliment sifu krismas...btw yes i only did 1 pass per panel...and only maintain with the speed 3 for compounding/polishing. Do u think i can increase the speed to 4 or 5 next time?

One more thing...i noticed that i can only apply light pressure as if i put more pressure the pad will stop...is it the light pressure can remove the defect with a few passess?
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Yes, you can go with speed 4 or even 5. Personally, I'd go for higher speed for compounding (and to answer your second question) to compensate for the light pressure so that the pad will keep spinning (not bogging down). The newer compounds and polishes (like UC & UP) will still work even with light pressure, albeit slower and requires more passes. And, like you mentioned, exerting more pressure would slow down the spinning (and even bog it down - not spinning at all), hence reducing the ability to correct. So, you're better off using light pressure with higher speed....more efficient that way. For the polishes (like UP), work using 'zenith' method - 1 pass at slower speed (2) to spread the product, a couple of passes at higher speed (4~5) to work then finally another pass with slow speed again (2~3) with *almost* no pressure (only weight of the machine) to 'refine' the finish. Just to give you a rough idea of the speed of your arm movement, a typical single 'pass' (eg. going one round horizontal then another round vertically) for 2' x 2' area would take around 2~3 minutes or so with the UP. Plenty of video online on how 'fast' your movement should be when using a DA and the same could apply when using an ROB like the Bosch.

Also, do take note that having the face of the pad not evenly flat on the panel (eg. tilting a little) would also slow down/stop the pad from rotating (and sometime it would even spin in the other direction), so you'd have to play around with the angle you're holding the machine to maintain the spinning.

Just a suggestion, for defects at isolated areas (small areas) or spot corrections (eg. scratches, bird poo, etc.) you could first try removing the defect using the UC by hand with a cloth or applicator, then only go over the area again with the Bosch. Using the UC by hand and with point load pressure (palm or finger/fingers) would be more aggressive and remove the defect quicker, furthermore you'd only be 'cutting' the AFFECTED AREA and avoid unnecessary 'cutting' of unaffected areas.
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post May 20 2014, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ May 20 2014, 08:46 AM)
BTW, I see LC has a lot of different technology pads.
May I ask the one carried by ShineCars.com.sg is what kind of LC pads? I knew the dimension as it is stated there but I frequently heard term like LC CCS flat pad, CCS curve, hydro foam, etc. I am not sure the pad carried by them is belong to which class of LC pad.

An example of the pic of the LC pad carried by this Singapore shop:
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and what are the differences, advantage and disadvantages of these different technology LC pads? make newbie like me so confused.
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CCS - got something like 'dimples', suppose to 'hold' polishes better and longer instead of being absorbed into the foam. Mainly meant for DA use.
Flat - normal foam
CCS curved - CCS but the face is curved/convex, can't remember what's the 'supposed' advantage.
Hydro - stiffer, denser than normal foam. Supposed to keep the polishes longer on the surface. Meant for the 'newer' water based polishes.

Personally, I'm not bothered with LC pads except for the normal flat ones. I have them all and haven't touched them for ages and ALL my CCS pads aren't usable anymore - crumbled and disintegrated....except for the flat ones...
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post May 20 2014, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ May 20 2014, 12:45 PM)
BTW bro KrisMas, any comment on whether it is necessary to have all different level of aggressiveness pads?
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Megs on the right track for this one. Unless you're into super duper serious commercial detailing and doing all kind of cars with different type of paint hardness/softness/sensitiveness(?), all you'd need is just 3 levels of aggressiveness - cutting, polishing and finishing/waxing. You won't notice any major differences in aggresivenes in, say, the different cutting pads that LC produce, especially with a DA...maybe on a rotary but not much with a DA. I'd suggest you should concentrate more on the quality of the foam/pad. Now that, i can assure you, would make a whole lot of difference, even with a DA.

Btw, i think the picture there is the hydro pads, can't say for sure but i think LC traditional flat pads are more rounded at the edges. Maybe you should have a little Q&A chat session with Jeremy....he's in the kaki group tongue.gif

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