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TSKrisMas
post Feb 5 2014, 04:28 PM

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So how much is the SGCB Crystallization coating then and what size does it come in?

Cuz for around RM300 range there's Dodo Juice Supernatural Infinity Sealant, Choose Nanotech DLS 9H, Optimum Opti Coat 2.0 and some other Japanese coatings that you can find at Autobacs.

ps. Sorry if I sound a bit pessimistic. I've already tried a few coatings and only *very* few can withstand our harsh weather...or maybe I just wasn't lucky enough to find one that can. If I can get a sample of this and test it out then that's something....but at RM300/set... sweat.gif

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post Feb 5 2014, 05:21 PM

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Those that you show above are not 'coating' per se. They're basically sealants and waxes. The word sealant/wax have been lost in translation when they're trying to figure out what those Chinese characters represent in English....the proper work should be 'protection'.
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post Feb 5 2014, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Feb 5 2014, 05:08 PM)
Are they available locally in KL/PJ? I'm actually considering to purchase them. I only came across Meguairs' version M188 and they are quite pricey.
If you mean the coatings that I mentioned previously, yes they are.
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post Feb 5 2014, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(muyo @ Feb 5 2014, 08:26 PM)
we actually testing the products recently. will do a write up soon.
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Yeah....please do, especially about the durability and resilience against water spotting. Errr...and who else are the 'we' ah?
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post Feb 6 2014, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(mirage81 @ Feb 5 2014, 11:04 PM)
This kind of spray bottle..usually i buy in pasar malan bro...much more cheaper.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(windskill @ Feb 5 2014, 11:08 PM)
Yea, actually it works the same too.  biggrin.gif
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Yeah...the pasar malam spray works about the same....until you try using it with some harsher chemicals. The grey ones are basically a chemical resistant sprayer. The sprayer, o-ring seal and piston are made of viton (if not mistaken la) as oppose to normal plastic and silicone/rubber in the normal one. Some chemical can easily damage the o-ring seal or piston on the normal ones.

QUOTE(mirage81 @ Feb 6 2014, 12:37 AM)
Oh got it...then how abt the Ultimate Quik Detailer? In wht situation i should use this item? Some ppl suggest to use it top up on the base wax as it to enhance the water repel ; some are after wash then use UQD..

I realise this QD is very high consume...yet UQD quite expansive compare with others Mag's liquid product
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Ultimate Quick Detailer is meant to be use as a wax/sealant 'booster' - it will boost the beading of existing wax/sealant. It's not really a 'quick detailer' in a traditional sense that's used for cleaning light dusting, smudges, etc. as it doesn't contain much lubricant/surfactant. You can use the UQD after a normal wash to 'boost' the beading and adding/topping up a little bit of protection to the existing wax/sealant. In other word, use the UQD as if you're using a spray wax instead of a QD.
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post Feb 6 2014, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Feb 6 2014, 09:22 AM)
I am not a very well versed individual when it comes to car detailing matters but i just want to protect my car paint as much as i can and i know waxing may do that.

So, what i intend to do is to just wash my car and then after it has been completely wiped dry, to apply the wax. I know that we need to remove all the "contaminants" before waxing but what happens if the "contaminants" are not properly removed because i know some "contaminants" may need polishing in order to remove. What happens if these "contaminants" are not properly removed and i applied the wax?

What are the possible adverse effect on the paint job other than not being visually shiny?
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Without making it too complicated for you, I would suggest trying out what we call an AIO (All In One) instead. An AIO have stronger cleaning property so that it would clean off those stubborn contaminant that normal wash can't remove. It'll also lay down a layer of protection while doing it. Duragloss Marine Polish 501 or the Polish Cleaner 101 are good and the protection can last for a month or so, longer if you're using a topper. There are also other AIOs but I have not much experience with them so I leave to other people to recommend.

QUOTE(mirage81 @ Feb 6 2014, 09:43 AM)
Thanks for guidance ...  notworthy.gif

anyway beside than Meguairs's Ultimate Quik Detailer... is there any product to introduce where can dilute with water.. looking for somethin economic. cheers!
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I don't know of any product that has the same function as the UQD that can be diluted with water....sorry.

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post Feb 6 2014, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Feb 6 2014, 09:50 AM)
I bought this type bottle spray RM3 per pcs..actually it's for chemical but after put Osren tar Remover...piston was jammed...can trigger but nothing coming out...

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RM3 for a chem resistant sprayer? hrrrmm....the viton o-ring seal alone is already selling at RM5/pc in hardware shop. Maybe it's chem resistant but for different chem kot....
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post Feb 6 2014, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 6 2014, 12:07 PM)
speaking of spray bottles, the osren ones die to megs WB :/
lost 2 sprayers liao. so i use my sonax xtreme WC bottle and bought another sonax xtreme WC sweat.gif
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hrrmm...curious. The only product that killed my chem resistant sprayer is DDJ Supernatural Red Mist. Have you tried unscrewing the nozzle and cleaning the inside? They might just be 'clogged'....

QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Feb 6 2014, 11:49 AM)
thanks for the tip but i still need to know what are the possible adverse effect (if any) on the car paint if contaminants are not properly (or entirely) removed before applying the wax. will it kill off the paint or it will just make the car less shiny.
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A few possibilities:

1. For the paint itself - contaminant *could* possibly accelerate oxidation or failure of the clear coat. But this would take several years of neglect in order for it to happen.

2. For the wax/sealant - waxes/sealants adhere best on clean surface. So, if there's any contaminant, adhesion would be weaker and this would result in shorter durability or cloudy patches after application.

If you're really worried about it, then there's only one thing you should concentrate on - WASH REGULARLY. Most shampoo would leave a tiny little amount of wax/sealant. Though not enough to give proper protection, at least it's something and the surface would stay relatively clean hence minimizing contaminants to cause maximum damage.

Furthermore, most of the normal consumer range waxes/sealants also contain some cleaners in them. Taking that into consideration, the process of applying waxes/sealants of any kind would also remove *some* contaminant due to the cleaner in them and also the aggressiveness of the applicator (you'd normally see the applicator turns dirty during/after use).

Shucks...now it's getting more and more complicated. Well....if you regularly clean your car and occasionally wax it...don't worry la...most probably the car would have left you before the paint is damaged.....
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post Feb 6 2014, 04:36 PM

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Well...just to comfort you....washing a car without a wax on every week is better than having a wax on but washing the car once a month.

You don't really have/need to wax the car every 2 weeks. A good quality wax should be able to provide good protection for months (or at least one month). Concentrate on MAINTENANCE - wash and topping up with some spray topper/booster. I've been doing it for ages and the only portion of my car(s) paint that are damaged are only those caused by inconsiderate *so-called* human beings or accidents.... tongue.gif

ps. when I was using waxes/sealants, I only do a 'proper' detail - i.e. light polishing and re-waxing, maybe once in three or four months....

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post Feb 6 2014, 05:11 PM

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Spray topper, example of them are like Meguiars Ultimate Quick Wax, Optimum Car Wax, Mothers FX Spray Wax, TurtleWax Wax-It-Wet, 3M Quick Spray Wax, Duraglos Aquawax, Autoglym Aqua Wax, Sonax Brilliant Shine Detailer...just to name a few (that I've used and tried). The ones I mentioned are all from the more established and reliable brands and available in Malaysia. Google them and learn what they are and what they do. Personally, for a black car, I would recommend Sonax Brilliant Shine Detailer if you're looking for durability or Meguiars Ultimate Quick Wax if you're looking for the look. If for ease of application with minimum risk of cloudy patches it's the DG Aquawax. Pair the spray waxes with a good regime and regular washing, you might not need to wax your car for months. Try one of them and...errr...*ehem* the Sonax Brilliant Shine Detailer is on sale at Sonax HQ, provided that it hasn't being 'scooped' by the kakis here already...check out their fb page.... tongue.gif
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post Feb 6 2014, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 6 2014, 07:02 PM)
omg can help me get one? how much/where is their hq anyways?

thinking of trying out a bottle haha
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I could give u their fb page but....... tongue.gif

They're at Glenmarie, Shah Alam, behind Posche showroom. One row after Car Nanny. Or...ask uncle google la..... mad.gif
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post Feb 6 2014, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(acefreakz @ Feb 6 2014, 10:04 PM)
ooo the sales til 15 feb ;D i can help u get one if u want, but probably next week wink.gif
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Good luck.
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post Feb 7 2014, 09:50 AM

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Yes. The Sonax BSD is for application after wax or after wash on top of existing wax/sealant, not a substitute for one. It can be use as such but the protection wouldn't be as good as a proper one...still good but just not as good.

Not just an additional step to enhance the look, these spray waxes are also meant for MAINTENANCE. Using it will stretch the durability of the underlaying wax/sealant so you don't have to re-apply them frequently.

Don't know about SGCB's products as haven't tried them before. But so far most spray waxes are quite compatible with other waxes/sealants from different brands. I have a few spray waxes and waxes/sealants and so far I haven't had any major issues in term of compatibility.
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post Feb 7 2014, 11:34 AM

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HEADS UP GUYS. Small detailing TT tonight.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry64924504

Also something special....car boot sale for some of the stuffs that my friend is letting go his stock. Helping him to get rid of the stuffs cuz he's shutting down. I'll list down the items but don't ask me about the price ya...need to come and look see for yourself. But I can tell you that it's a closing down sale price so you it will definitely be something special. First come first serve & cash terms only.

GG Black
GG Blue
GG Red
GG Yellow
Dolly Black
Dolly Blue
Dolly Red
Dolly system
White mf red edge
mf green
mf carrand
mf applicator (2 in packs)
shmitt yellow/white
shmitt black/black
shmitt white/white
shmitt white/yellow
pad conditioning brush
mf apron
BH clay regular
BH clay soft
Menz 203S
Menz 106fa
Menz 106fa gal
Menz PO85rd
Menz PO83
Menz PO87MC
Menz PO115C
Menz APO60

*GG = Grit Guard Insert
*BH = Bilt Hamber
*Menz = Menzerna

Duragloss Products:

#401 DG APC 22oz
#401 DG APC 1 gal
#471 DG Bug Remover 22oz
#471 DG Bug Remover 1 gal
#481 DG Wax Eraser 4oz
#505 DG WSR 22oz
#521 DG Marine QD 22oz
#521 DG Marine QD 1 gal
#461 DG Ultimate Orange 32oz
#461 DG Ultimate Orange 1 gal
#101 DG PC 8oz
#101 DG PC 1 gal
#501 DG Marine RV Polish 1 gal
#601 DG PBA 8oz
#601 DG PBA 1 gal
#105 DG TPP 16oz
#105 DG TPP 1 gal
#2930 Track Claw Polish 16oz
DG EnviroShield
#951 DG Aquawax 22oz
#951 DG Aquawax 1 gal
#751 DG Rain Repel 22oz
#751 DG Rain Repel 1 ga
#755 DG NuGlass Polish 8oz
#755 DG NuGlass Polish 1 gal
#681 DG Plastic Polish 8oz
#681 DG Plastic Polish 1 gal
#812 DG AWC 22oz
#812 DG AWC 1 gal
#253 DG TMD 19oz
#271 DG RBD 8oz
#271 DG RBD 1 gal
#831 DG MCB 22oz
#881 DG MP 12oz

ps. mode/admin, please inform me if I'm going against the rules and I'll take this post off. And thousands apologies if I am.
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post Feb 7 2014, 03:28 PM

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Yeah...yeah...sure. Normal la tu...I'm always the one to blame... sweat.gif ....hahahaha....
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post Feb 9 2014, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 9 2014, 02:48 AM)
lol over budget on my detailing purchase again T^T http://twitpic.com/dutf1d

krismas omg king cobra cry.gif
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Yeah, right. U know i bite so why u put out your hand leh...... tongue.gif
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post Feb 9 2014, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(patrickthissen @ Feb 9 2014, 08:36 PM)
Hi guys, I accidentally spilt some petrol on my car (I suspect got kena)

I google it and found both positive and negative feedback..

Does petrol harmful to car paint??

Many thanks all sifu  notworthy.gif
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The petrol will remove whatever wax/sealant/protection on the kena punya area, might even cause a little bit of whitish haze. But nothing that a light polish couldn't remove. Petrol is too mild of a solvent to cause much harm to the clear coat.
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post Feb 10 2014, 02:07 PM

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Osren HQ....or....*ehem*...
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post Feb 10 2014, 05:30 PM

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My weekly wash would AT LEAST take me 2 hours....per car....but then, need to add another half an hour or so cuz I do the glass, tyres, plastic, etc dressing after I had my shower & dinner...
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post Feb 10 2014, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 10 2014, 06:13 PM)
oh ya using supposedly CR osren spray bottle, super degreaser no problem
wheel brightener killed 2 sprayers.
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With the wheel brightener, i found that you'd need to 'rinse' the internals of the sprayer using plain water after use & before storage. There's some sort of residue that would dry up and clump the sprayer nozzle & piston. For wheel brightener, of all the yeats i'm using it, i only had one quit on me.

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