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post Nov 27 2015, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(Eugene333 @ Nov 27 2015, 11:37 AM)
Yea, because life insurance include with cash value and others while term are not return to you anything. Which is a pure life insurance.
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do you think I made a mistake by committing to that? I only earn 2.6k per month

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post Nov 27 2015, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Nov 27 2015, 11:46 AM)
do you think I made a mistake by committing to that? I only earn 2.6k per month
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It is never a mistake, in fact you can talk to your agent and see how and where you can reduce the premium commitment.

Ask your agent to
1. lay out what exactly is covered.
2. explain thoroughly
3. And the tell him/her your situation on affordability.

I do regular reviews with my customers too.
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post Nov 27 2015, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Nov 27 2015, 01:14 PM)
It is never a mistake, in fact you can talk to your agent and see how and where you can reduce the premium commitment.

Ask your agent to
1. lay out what exactly is covered.
2. explain thoroughly
3. And the tell him/her your situation on affordability.

I do regular reviews with my customers too.
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so even if the plan is signed for 200k life insurance. I already commit to it for one year. I can still change the coverage? and installements?
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post Nov 27 2015, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Nov 27 2015, 01:38 PM)
so even if the plan is signed for 200k life insurance. I already commit to it for one year. I can still change the coverage? and installements?
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If it is an investment-linked life insurance policy, yes, you can.

But at the same time, it has to make sense. Otherwise, your agent will advice you against it, simply because it doesn't make sense.

Be transparent with your agent, be truthful and give accurate information.
Because like all the other agents, our work can only be as accurate as the information that you provide to us.

Frankly we are humans too, we have moms too just like everyone else.
We want to do our level best and deliver for our customers a good and relevant portfolio as well.

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But human nature of distrust gets in the way, afraid that the agent will earn our money.
Well, the agent, me, will earn your money from our commissions. Our commissions is fixed on a percentage and that percentage doesn't change.

Certain forumers here like to say "don't buy insurance, it is only making the agents rich and travel overseas."
I want to say that is true. We do qualify for convention trips upon hitting certain sales targets.
But let's consider the situation that you don't buy insurance. At all.
How much would an unfavorable situation set you back?

Is it really worth the effort to prevent me, the insurance agent, from taking 20% commissions of RM40-60?
Who has more at stake here? The agent, me? Or the person, you?


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post Nov 27 2015, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Nov 27 2015, 01:38 PM)
so even if the plan is signed for 200k life insurance. I already commit to it for one year. I can still change the coverage? and installements?
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2.6k buy 300 insurance... really 'over-buy'

why yes, you may be getting more...

but at this point, more insurance isn't what you need... more money to channel to savings seems more right.

likely your policy is an investment-linked, so can try to adjust to a more comfortable level, in the range of 150 - 200...
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post Nov 27 2015, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(Eugene333 @ Nov 27 2015, 03:00 PM)
I am not that expert to judge, but monthly premium rm300 could be a burden. Good things, as the others stated you still can talk to your agent and request to reduce the premium commitment, but have to depend on your policy. By the way, my term premium currently cost me rm53 per month only.
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noted with thanks. WIll talk to my agent
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post Nov 28 2015, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(katrinacheong @ Nov 25 2015, 07:33 AM)
even if u opt for another company coverage, you won't be covered since your agent has told you that even you upgraded your existing policy, it won't cover the recent surgery which you did .  every insurance has to go through hospitals data, so I doubt you will be covered even you bought another companies product . best is upgrade yout existing policy
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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Nov 25 2015, 08:17 AM)
^ Whether the condition will be Excluded will be very much dependent on the type of surgery being perform and the medical condition.

The best course of action is to try to upgrade and if you are offered with an Exclusion on that medical condition, you may choose not to take up the upgrade and get a new policy (from the same or different insurer) with the Exclusion imposed.

Hence if there are future claims that falls under the Exclusion of the above medical condition, it is able to be claim from the old policy.

Any claims that dont fall under that medical Exclusion is claimable under the new card.

Of course it will mean maintaining 2 medical cards and boils down to your budget.
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QUOTE(ExpZero @ Nov 25 2015, 08:21 PM)
Hi Baymax,

1)This very same question has been asked in the product launching, Healthcare services department has told us it's case-to-case-basis. Since this is new product, I have no experience to advise further but only sharing my knowledge.
2)Either it's within waiting period or insurance companies are suspecting it's a existing illness based on the doctor's report when applying GL.
Hi skyvampire,

I would advise you to upgrade with existing company because
1)If your existing company is denying you to buy a new card, you will most probably unable to buy a new card in another company. However, you can try to apply too after your existing company is denying you.
2)If your existing company is imposing exclusion in your new card, you will most probably have exclusion in another company as well. However, by then you can choose to hold 2 cards in the same company to reduce the effort when claim because you don't have to submit to two different companies.
3)If your existing company is giving you upgrade your medical card, you will have a new medical card and with only 1 month of conditional waiting period. Which means that you can use your medical card immediately without any hiccup in the middle.

Either of these 3 scenario, you are in a win-win situation.
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Thank you to all the advice. Will try to upgrade and see what is the result
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post Nov 29 2015, 08:50 PM

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Any great eastern agent here???
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post Nov 30 2015, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(iextra81 @ Nov 30 2015, 09:18 AM)
No medical check up needed? Then what about I purposely to cheat with the question just intend to get cheap premium? They cannot notice?  Sounds so insecure.  hmm.gif
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then when you want to claim you won't be able to claim
because upon signing policy you did not disclose it. don't cheat inorder get cheaper premium .
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post Nov 30 2015, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(iextra81 @ Nov 30 2015, 10:54 AM)
Ok, the next question is it necessary to get cover with this critical illness cover as well? Why uforlife only cover 4 type of it? I tot it should be 36 type or even more? I don't understand the purpose!!!
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They have took out the other risk and only cover the 4 types of critical illness with 25% from the sum assured. It's okay in view of the price. If you are looking for comprehensive critical illness coverage, you might have to look for alternative. smile.gif
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post Nov 30 2015, 06:35 PM

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On the critical illness...

Long story short:
Would you buy a car with any missing parts?
If yes, what are the parts would you go without? Airbags? Wheels? The engine?
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post Dec 4 2015, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(scottyvstheworld @ Nov 29 2015, 08:50 PM)
Any great eastern agent here???
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All insurance company also can get insurance, have you bought insurance? I can be of assist.
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post Dec 5 2015, 10:12 PM

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1 no0b question;
Prudential & PrudentialBSN, it is the same company, right?

Then what are the difference ?
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post Dec 7 2015, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Dec 5 2015, 10:12 PM)
1 no0b question;
Prudential & PrudentialBSN, it is the same company, right?

Then what are the difference ?
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Prudential is conventional insurance, PrudentialBSN is Takaful.

It's similar to Maybank vs Maybank Islamic in banking industry.
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post Dec 17 2015, 03:09 PM

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Alright, here the deal.

I have an insurance policy years ago. Been diligently paying, except that I have lapsed payment for months. Did not apply for 'holiday' (or what ever it is that they termed it).

Intended to surrender the policy, as it no longer fit my requirements.

My query is, how much money will I get back?

Will the insurance return what ever it is in my policy, or will the insurance deduct the months that I have not paid, before returning any balance available ?
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post Dec 17 2015, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Dec 17 2015, 03:09 PM)
Alright, here the deal.

I have an insurance policy years ago. Been diligently paying, except that I have lapsed payment for months. Did not apply for 'holiday' (or what ever it is that they termed it).

Intended to surrender the policy, as it no longer fit my requirements.

My query is, how much money will I get back?

Will the insurance return what ever it is in my policy, or will the insurance deduct the months that I have not paid, before returning any balance available ?
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I assumed the cash value is based on where you stopped paying the premium but it would be better just to directly call them and get the proper information.


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post Dec 17 2015, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Dec 17 2015, 03:09 PM)
Alright, here the deal.

I have an insurance policy years ago. Been diligently paying, except that I have lapsed payment for months. Did not apply for 'holiday' (or what ever it is that they termed it).

Intended to surrender the policy, as it no longer fit my requirements.

My query is, how much money will I get back?

Will the insurance return what ever it is in my policy, or will the insurance deduct the months that I have not paid, before returning any balance available ?
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Why don't you go to your agent?
If your agent is no longer around, bring your policy booklet to the servicing branch and the customer service rep will be able to help you.

If it no longer fit your requirements, perhaps it is time to do a review instead of surrendering it for the sake of surrendering it.
Find out exactly what that policy is, what is needed in your current finances, and make things clear.

After gathering the information, then from there you'll have a better direction and more confidence to either surrender, or buy more coverage.
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post Dec 17 2015, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Dec 17 2015, 03:09 PM)
Alright, here the deal.

I have an insurance policy years ago. Been diligently paying, except that I have lapsed payment for months. Did not apply for 'holiday' (or what ever it is that they termed it).

Intended to surrender the policy, as it no longer fit my requirements.

My query is, how much money will I get back?

Will the insurance return what ever it is in my policy, or will the insurance deduct the months that I have not paid, before returning any balance available ?
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Most probably your cash value had been eaten up if the policy is less than 3 years old.

If you would like to continue your policy you will need to pay up the premium you didn't pay previously and let it br reinstated but it will be pending approval on any change in health condition.

This post has been edited by lifebalance: Dec 17 2015, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(rapple @ Nov 20 2015, 05:06 PM)
Question: If i pay half yearly for GE ILP Medical plan, when can i get the statement for income tax purpose? Next year?

EDIT: Why i ask? Because i want to know the actual amount for tax relief.
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Medical card tax relief is rm3000 yearly depending on your proportion for life and medical.
For life and epf max is rm6000 yearly
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post Dec 17 2015, 10:42 PM

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Outpatient Cancer Treatment
Outpatient Kidney Dialysis Treatment

PRUValue Med
As Charged (Up to 1.5 times of the chosen Med Value Point per lifetime. MVP option 1.0/1.5/2.0 Million)

Great Eastern Smart Extender
As Charged (No mention of per lifetime)

AIA A-Plus MedBooster
RM750,000 (Plan 150: Lifetime limit of RM250,000 from A-Plus Med + RM500,000 from A-Plus MedBooster)

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Hope insurance sifu here can help to answer some of my questions below:

1. Is there a per lifetime limit for Smart Extender for Outpatient Cancer/Kidney treatment?
2. If there no per lifetime limit for Smart Extender, does the limit follow the Annual Limit and resets at each policy year?
3. It seems like, AIA A-Plus MedBooster Outpatient Cancer/Kidney treatment is less attractive compared to Prudential and GE. Is my observation correct?


Thanks for the help.

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